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Mueller Investigation Is Over / Part two are the trials. Hey Jack, I Was Right. 20 Plus Russians Charged, 19 Of Trumps People Convicted of Felonies.

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Tuesday, August 9, 2022 6:37 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Glad to know that despite all of your bullshit, the Russians still have a sense of humor.

As does the FBI:

At around 7 p.m., on a hot Monday evening (it’s hot where you are, right?), former President Donald Trump announced that the FBI had raided his “beautiful home, Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach.” The premises, he wrote in a statement, was “currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents.”

The FBI had not confirmed (or denied!) this news as of publication time.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/08/trump-mar-a-lago-fbi-raid-
what-we-know.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, August 9, 2022 6:57 AM

“Peak Trump” Reached as Ex-President Appears Concurrently in News Stories About Both Toilets and Hitler

The life of a former U.S. president has long been a performatively dignified one. The typical modern ex-POTUS writes a mostly unremarkable memoir, retires to a house on a plot that has its own name (e.g. “The Oak Aspen”), endorses his party’s nominee every four years at the national convention, engages in occasional diplomatic and humanitarian work, and otherwise hopes the national press will gradually forget the controversial, stupid, and cowardly things he did during his actual career so he will be eulogized when he dies as a great leader and role model. (Barack Obama has shaken up the tradition by working with glamorous figures like Bruce Springsteen, but only on the least glamorous activity, podcasting.)

There are two stories in the news today, Monday, about the U.S.’s most recent ex-president, Donald Trump.

• Axios reports, with visual proof, that the New York Times’ Maggie Haberman has obtained photos—taken during Trump’s term at locations where he had just been present—of toilets in which torn-up documents bearing words written in his handwriting are visible.

In a February 2022 scoop (also given to Axios by the Times reporter in a confusing book-publicity maneuver), Haberman had revealed that Trump’s staff “periodically discovered” wads of printed paper clogging his toilets and believed him to have been responsible for attempting to flush them. (Discarding paper in a toilet is a violation of best practices concerning both presidential record-keeping and plumbing.) Trump had called this report—the report that he, an adult man, was apparently under the belief that one can successfully dispose of office documents by putting them in a toilet—”fake news.” But now it has been proved fairly definitively that the president tried (many times) to flush regular paper down a toilet in the White House and then lied about it.

• The New Yorker has printed an excerpt from a different forthcoming book (co-authored by a different Times reporter) in which Trump is said to have asked his chief of staff, ex–Marine Corps general John Kelly, why American military officials couldn’t be “like the German generals” who, in Trump’s imagination if not in real life, were “totally loyal” to Hitler.

The former president, who has already been in the news a number of times for stories relating to toilets and his evident admiration for Hitler, lives in Florida and is not known to engage in diplomatic or humanitarian work.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/08/trump-toilet-documents-flu
shed-hitler-comparison-same-day.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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THG
Tuesday, August 9, 2022 7:13 AM

Poor Trump, always the victim. Same for all his voters and the Republicans in congress. All a bunch of victims. I don't want victims running America. I want winners running the country.

Here's the long and the short of it. Trump was told to hand over the documents and items he removed from the White House. He said no. The FBI said yes. The Department of Justice said yes. Guess who won. Too funny...

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THG
Monday, August 22, 2022 3:39 AM

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Originally posted by THG:

Mueller handed in his report. We should start learning a few things this weekend.

tick tock




The video below is not news. We knew it happened as it was happening. It's just now it's been laid bare by the courts. I've always said history will have the last word and it won't be good for Trump and his idiot followers.

T



Court Rules William Barr Wrongly Withheld Russia Probe Memo


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Monday, August 22, 2022 4:47 AM

LOL Fuck Billy Barr. Just one less creature to drain from the swamp in 2024 when Trump is reelected.



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Sunday, August 28, 2022 5:03 PM

What do you get when an attorney general covers up presidential obstruction?

On Wednesday, the Department of Justice finally released a memo that explained former Attorney General Bill Barr’s decision not to prosecute Donald Trump in connection with the Mueller Report. With that revelation, one big mystery has been solved: We now know why Democratic and Republican appointed federal judges excoriated Barr for dishonesty in hiding the memo and distorting Mueller’s report. The memo is flat-out wrong on the facts and the law. Bill Barr’s Memo https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22187568-20190324-memorandum-t
o-ag-from-dag-re-mueller-report-review


For example, Mueller presented powerful evidence that Trump repeatedly told his first White House Counsel Donald McGahn to tell lies about the investigation, including creating a false written record. The Mueller report made a compelling case that these actions could support a reasonable inference of obstruction of justice. Yet Bill Barr’s Memo says “none of these instances indicate that the president sought to conceal evidence of criminal conduct.” That conclusion beggars belief. https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

The memo also says that the former president’s grooming witnesses before they testified and then turning on them if they implicated him did not qualify as obstruction. Tell that to former Trump attorney Michael Cohen, who was the subject of repeated presidential intimidation targeting him and his family before his 2019 House Oversight Committee testimony.
(Michael Cohen claims that President Trump is threatening his family. Trump made ominous innuendos about Cohen’s father-in-law. https://www.vox.com/2019/1/23/18194719/trump-michael-cohen-father-in-l
aw-threat
)

Bill Barr’s Memo speaks of all this in mild terms, as Trump “appearing to praise or condemn” witnesses, when he was actually doing much worse. Trump’s behavior went so far as dangling pardons to his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort (who later received one). Bill Barr’s Memo bends the facts so far that it breaks them.

Its treatment of the law is as bad. The notion that there are no comparable legal precedents to justify prosecution, as the memo claims, is laughable. I co-wrote an almost 200 page report in 2018 laying them all out. (Presidential obstruction of justice: The case of Donald J. Trump https://www.brookings.edu/research/presidential-obstruction-of-justice
-the-case-of-donald-j-trump-2nd-edition
/ )

For instance, both that report and Bill Barr’s Memo focus on the same key case: United States v. Cueto (1998). In Trump’s case like in Cueto, someone was under investigation and attempted to interfere with that investigation by taking acts that would have been legal but for corrupt intent. The prosecution in Cueto was held lawful and so would one have been here. The evidence of obstruction that Mueller documented would have resulted in charges for anybody else who did not occupy the Oval Office. Barr gave Trump special treatment — and not because the law or the facts merited it.

But inside access is not needed to see that something is rotten here. It was always puzzling how this memo was submitted just two days after Barr received the 400-page Mueller report. How could he and his colleagues possibly process all of that information in 48 hours and come to such a weighty decision not to prosecute? That apparent hastiness was always an indication that Barr’s goal was to cover-up — and not uncover — the truth. But now that we have the memo that is even more clear.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/08/merrick-garland-barr-memo-
trump-lesson-doj.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:21 PM

Trump will be fine.



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Sunday, August 28, 2022 8:45 PM

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Trump will be fine.

Trump will be a celebrity in prison as was Bill Cosby. And Cosby only served a few years before the Supreme Court ordered his release because the Court considered it completely unfair when a prosecutor used Cosby's testimony against him in a different case than the one in which Cosby originally testified. "We can't reuse Cosby's old words from a previous trial in this new trial because Cosby didn't realize in the first trial that his own words made him look like a criminal to the new jury."

Bill Cosby ‘celebrates’ anniversary of being released from prison with interview
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-06-30/bill-cosby
-conviction-overturned-prison-sexual-assault-speaks


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Sunday, August 28, 2022 11:04 PM

Trump will be fine.



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Saturday, September 10, 2022 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Trump will be fine.

Trump sued everybody involved with the Mueller Investigation. Yesterday his lawsuit was dismissed.

A federal judge has dismissed former President Donald Trump's lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee, several ex-FBI officials and more than two dozen other people and entities that he claims conspired to undermine his 2016 campaign by trying to vilify him with fabricated information tying him to Russia.

US District Judge Donald Middlebrooks dismissed the lawsuit Thursday, saying "most of Plaintiff's claims are not only unsupported by any legal authority but plainly foreclosed by binding precedent. What (Trump's lawsuit) lacks in substance and legal support it seeks to substitute with length, hyperbole, and the settling of scores and grievances."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/09/politics/judge-throws-out-trumps-rico-l
awsuit-against-hillary-clinton-and-democrats/index.html


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