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Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail

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Saturday, August 20, 2022 4:22 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You have absolutely no proof of this or anything else you've accused Trump of.

And now that EVERYTHING else has failed, you're back on the tax issue.


You also pretend that no Democrats cheat on their taxes. That's hilarious.

You are an insane person.

You are already showing what Trumptards will do when Trump goes to trial. To understand what the Trump investigation might do to America, look at Israel

Former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is on trial, and it has thrown Israeli politics into chaos. Americans should pay attention.

Trump’s legal woes have become the biggest issue in the country. There are at least four ongoing criminal investigations that touch Trump and his business interests, any one of which could eventually yield an indictment.

Politically, Trump and Netanyahu are very much alike: charismatic populists who have transformed established center-right parties into increasingly radical cults of personality. Netanyahu was prime minister for Trump’s entire presidency and emerged as one of his closest allies on the global stage, even putting Trump on one of his campaign posters.

Both men stand accused of serious anti-democratic abuses while in office. Both have responded with nearly identical campaigns against the legal authorities, accusing investigators of engaging in a “witch hunt” at the behest of liberal elites. And both appear likely to contest their country’s next general election — Israel’s in November, the United States’s in 2024 — with decent odds to win.

One difference between the two: Netanyahu is on trial now. Given the right-wing-driven, antidemocratic drift in both countries, the Israeli experience of holding a former populist leader accountable may well be instructive for Americans.

When I visited Israel this summer, the effects of the Netanyahu trial on the country were plainly on display. The proceedings have polarized Israeli politics and pushed Netanyahu and his followers to embrace a more aggressive antidemocratic stance.

“The democratic process in Israel has reached a crisis stage,” Efraim Halevy, the former director of Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency, told me. “You have people speaking out, advocating the use of [political] violence.”

In the United States, where extreme polarization already looks like a democratic extinction-level event, the pressures of a Trump trial could cause even graver damage. It could further intensify the GOP’s anti-democratic descent while galvanizing a radical fringe that has already responded to a mere search warrant with violence.

None of this means that prosecuting Netanyahu was the wrong decision, or that Trump’s grip on the GOP should be a get-out-of-jail-free card. There are powerful reasons to believe that a failure to prosecute serious offenses can itself damage democracies, perhaps irreparably.

But the Israeli example should inform Americans of the risks of a Trump prosecution — and prompt the US to brace for more political turmoil and discord if the former president does go on trial.

How Netanyahu’s trial changed Israel

Netanyahu is not the first Israeli leader to face charges.

In 2008, then-Prime Minister Ehud Olmert chose to resign amid mounting legal woes, triggering a 2009 election that Netanyahu would (ironically) win. Olmert’s subsequent trial and conviction on corruption charges had little effect on Israeli politics, largely a sideshow in a country that had moved on. The Olmert affair was, in some ways, a model of how democracies should hold elites accountable for criminal behavior.

The Olmert prosecution did not lead to a political meltdown because, at the time, Israeli politics were not especially polarized along partisan lines. While there were major disagreements among the parties in the Knesset (parliament) on everything from peace with the Palestinians to the proper role of Judaism in public life, these divides did not manifest in the sort of rigid and all-encompassing feuds between rival camps that wo

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Saturday, August 20, 2022 7:50 AM

Trump will be fine.



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THG
Wednesday, August 24, 2022 2:40 AM

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SIGNYM:

In other words, Trump isn't going to jail ever, just like Hillary isn't going to jail, ever.

Thanks for corroborating my interpretation.

SECOND: The Confederate blah blah blah .... The legal system has NEVER actually worked the way I was taught it is presumed to work

All I have to do is look at the way the Japanese were imprisoned during WWII to know that our justice system doesn't work they way we were taught.

Your post is yet ANOTHER way of admitting that Trump will never go to jail, and neither will Hillary. Stop making my point for me. This is a dead thread about a pointless topic.

You and Hillary can thank your lucky stars for our justice system.






Holy shit signym you're a stupid fuck.

T



Trump Kept More Than 700 Pages of Classified Documents, Letter From National Archives

President Donald J. Trump took more than 700 pages of classified documents, including some related to the nation’s most covert intelligence operations, to his private club and residence in Florida when he left the White House in January 2021, according to a letter that the National Archives sent to his lawyers this year.

The letter, dated May 10 and written by the acting U.S. archivist, Debra Steidel Wall, to one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, M. Evan Corcoran, described the state of alarm in the Justice Department as officials there began to realize how serious the documents were.

It also suggested that top department prosecutors and members of the intelligence community were delayed in conducting a damage assessment about the documents’ removal from the White House as Mr. Trump’s lawyers tried to argue that some of them might have been protected by executive privilege.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-kept-more-than-700-pages
-of-classified-documents-letter-from-national-archives-says/ar-AA10ZZ3q?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8c13c706156242b9b0a2488e4f9b8d20



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THG
Wednesday, August 24, 2022 3:33 AM

Former prosecutors mock Trump's attorneys and say they may need to hire their own lawyers amid continued Mar-a-Lago fallout

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-prosecutors-mock-trump-
s-attorneys-and-say-they-may-need-to-hire-their-own-lawyers-amid-continued-mar-a-lago-fallout/ar-AA110jXD?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8c13c706156242b9b0a2488e4f9b8d20




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THG
Saturday, August 27, 2022 6:12 AM

Trumps fucked, but hey I'm sure he'll be fine. Way to funny...

T



Andrew Weissmann Predicts ‘The former president will be prosecuted’






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Saturday, August 27, 2022 8:07 AM

Nah.

As per usual, Trump will be fine.

This thread is almost 3 years old, Ted. Are you going to bake it a cake?

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THG
Monday, August 29, 2022 5:22 AM

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TRUMP HIT THE FAN REPOST





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Monday, August 29, 2022 5:37 AM

Exactly 2 months until this threads 3rd Birthday!

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Monday, August 29, 2022 7:32 PM

Sen. Lindsey Graham said if Trump is prosecuted for mishandling classified information 'there will be riots in the streets'

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said Sunday there will be riots if former President Donald Trump is prosecuted over his handling of classified materials.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sen-lindsey-graham-said-if-tru
mp-is-prosecuted-for-mishandling-classified-information-there-will-be-riots-in-the-streets/ar-AA11d3g6?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e00636d0f80a47a30e04c28e2cf81afa#image=AA11cNe5|4




Another unstable right-wing threat. What will be will be.

T


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Monday, August 29, 2022 7:49 PM

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Sen. Lindsey Graham said if Trump is prosecuted for mishandling classified information 'there will be riots in the streets'

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said Sunday there will be riots if former President Donald Trump is prosecuted over his handling of classified materials.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sen-lindsey-graham-said-if-tru
mp-is-prosecuted-for-mishandling-classified-information-there-will-be-riots-in-the-streets/ar-AA11d3g6?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e00636d0f80a47a30e04c28e2cf81afa#image=AA11cNe5|4




Another unstable right-wing threat. What will be will be.

T





Shut up dude. You never said word one about the actual Leftist riots all over the country in 2020.

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