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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Friday, July 29, 2022 4:51 PM

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SignyM:
Finland beating Russia to death?
That's as good as Russia "losing" WWII.
Like I said: un- fuck your brain. It's like a not-so-fun house of mirrors in there.

SECOND: Russians forget, but Finland didn't forget the Winter War:

126,875–167,976 dead or missing Russians
188,671–207,538 wounded or sick Russians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

Knowing how you like to LIE using snippets, I noticed that you failed to mention this little gem (from your source):

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After the Soviet military reorganized and adopted different tactics, they renewed their offensive in February and overcame Finnish defences.
Hostilities ceased in March 1940 with the signing of the Moscow Peace Treaty in which Finland ceded 9% of its territory to the Soviet Union.

Oh, dear. Official history tells us you are LYING.

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Signym, the Russians tried again. It went worse the second time in the apply named Continuation War:

250,000–305,000 dead or missing Russians
575,000 medical casualties (including 385,000 wounded and 190,000 sick) Russians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War



Again,knowing how you like to, er ...LIE ... you failed to mention THESE little gems (from your source)

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The Continuation War, also known as the Second Soviet-Finnish War, was a conflict fought by Finland and Nazi Germany against the Soviet Union from 1941 to 1944, as part of World War II... On 22 June 1941, Germany launched an invasion of the Soviet Union. Three days later, the Soviet Union conducted an air raid on Finnish cities, prompting Finland to declare war and allow German troops stationed in Finland to begin offensive warfare.

Let's think ... WHO won that war, again?
"Finland", you say?
Once again, your official sources reveal that you're LYING.

Please, unfuck uour brain. It's rotten and spoiled in there.

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Friday, July 29, 2022 4:58 PM

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SECOND: Five people with knowledge of the Kremlin’s preparations...


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SECOND:Trump and Putin have the same anathema toward NATO. For Putin, it was because NATO stands in Putin's way. For Trump, because he is Trump and he worries that Putin could blackmail Trump. For 6ix, because he is a Trumptard.


Uh huh.
More bullshit from SECOND.
I hope you realize, SECOND, that nobody .... and I mean nobody ... is won over with your lying, contradictions, libel, and self-justification. Even CAPON has more or less abandoned you. He prolly thinks you're an embarassing amateur who hurts his cause, and squirms when he reads your posts.
(Cue CAPON in 5...4...3...)

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Friday, July 29, 2022 8:32 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

Russia and Finland are neighbors. Russia has GDP per person that is less than one quarter of Finland's. Is Finland to blame for Russia's relative poverty? No.

Russia and South Korea are neighbors. Russian GDP per person is less than South Korea. Is South Korea to blame for Russia's poverty? No.

You know who has a GDP per person less that Russia? North Korea, which was created by the Russian Army. The Russian Army is pushing Ukraine further into relative poverty, but Ukraine is fighting back, because they know what will happen if Russia wins. It will be the same relative poverty of North Korea vs South Korea:

Russia $12,198 GDP per capita 2021

Finland $54,060

South Korea $34,744

Ukraine $4,567

North Korea $683 (2017)

https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/finland
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/south-korea
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/ukraine
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/north-korea

The $1 trillion property damage that Russia has done to Ukraine will certainly make Ukraine poorer in the future than these statistics show.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, July 29, 2022 9:35 PM

What does this have to do with anything, SECOND?

Well, it doesn't. Just more crap to splatter, eh?

PS: Ukraine was a shithole BEFORE the invasion. It is poor because it is the most corrupt nation in Europe, including Albania, and that's saying something!

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Friday, July 29, 2022 9:39 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

NATO is evil. NATO would do any of that to anybody.

FUCK NATO.

I will ALWAYS root for the other guy if NATO is involved. I would even back Justin Trudeau if he got on the wrong side of NATO.

Trump and Putin have the same anathema toward NATO.



Good. They're smart.

You're the guy who voted for a meat popsicle.

Get fucked.

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Friday, July 29, 2022 10:38 PM

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You Know It Is Getting Bad for Ukraine When PBS Disputes the Propaganda

27 July 2022 by Larry Johnson

Fortunately, I was sitting down when I saw the following video. I had an easier fall to the floor from the sitting position then if I had been standing upright. This is a genuine stunner. A reporter for the PUBLIC BROADCAST SYSTEM– let me repeat that, a PBS reporter on the ground in Ukraine and reporting from the Ukraine side of the fightin –blows up the Ukrainian propaganda that Russia was shelling civilian targets during the sustained bombardments. This is akin to Rachel Maddow admitting the Joe Biden is the Big Guy and on the take from the Chinese. Whoops!

The PBS Newshour (formerly as McNeil/Lehrer back in the old days) is the bastion of Deep State propaganda. As the catechism is to Catholics, the PBS Newshour is to Democrats. So what happened in Ukraine that has caused this shill of the Deep State to do real journalism? The reporter debunks the Ukrainian claim that Russia hit a civilian apartment building. He notes the smell of dead bodies and cites a source stating that the bodies pulled out of this smoldering rubble were soldiers. As he trashes the Ukraine claim he shows video of military shoes, uniforms and decals scattered in the piles of stone and twisted iron.

Take a look:
https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/_/4/B/_/_4B_e.caa.mp4?u=0&b=0

"We've seen evidence that the Ukrainian military did indeed use this area as a base [shots of military boots and fatigues in the rubble] ...
Up to 30, maybe even 40, Ukrainian military soldiers and officers may have been killed here...
A cleaning woman who worked here provided Russia with targeting information for this secret facility"
- Simon Ostrovsky, PBS News Hour


This is NOT Russian propaganda. This is a certified member of the Mainstream Media. He is Deep State approved. And he decides that now is a good time to expose a lie by Ukrainian authorities? This is not an accident. I see it as a signal that the Washington establishment’s enthusiasm for this war and their optimism that Ukraine will prevail is slipping. Remember, PBS depends almost entirely on funding from Uncle Joe Biden, Cousin Chuck Schumer and Aunt Nancy Pelosi.


MORE AT
https://sonar21.com/you-know-it-is-getting-bad-for-ukraine-when-pbs-di
sputes-the-propaganda
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Friday, July 29, 2022 10:59 PM

ROUNDTABLE ON NUCLEAR ARMS WITH CIA AND NUCLEAR ARMS EXPERTS MCGOVERN, POSTOL, AND JOHNSON



This is a well-informed discussion on the history and future of nuclear arms and nuclear arms treaties by CIA who helped create those treaties and by weapons capabalities expert at MIT, Argonne, and Stanford.

If you want to know what nuclear weapons, anti-ballistic systems, cruise missiles and radar systems and satellites can ...and can't ... do, and how that affects nuclear treaties and nuclear policy, this is the discussion to go to. (PS Our "intelligence" and technical "experts" under GWB, Obama, Trump, and Biden are all grossly ignorant of reality.)

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What does this have to do with anything, SECOND?

Well, it doesn't. Just more crap to splatter, eh?

PS: Ukraine was a shithole BEFORE the invasion. It is poor because it is the most corrupt nation in Europe, including Albania, and that's saying something!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


Two countries take dissimilar paths. Russia builds A-bombs, threatens to nuke the world, and is poor compared to its neighbor Finland that built no bombs, threatens nobody. Russia's protege, North Korea, threatens to nuke the world and is poor compared to South Korea. The world told Russia and North Korea to stop with the endless threats, but neither country stops, turns around and devotes its efforts toward prosperity rather than war. Russia will be poorer because of its war with Ukraine even if Putin declares Russia "won". Win or lose, Ukraine will be $1 trillion poorer because Russia damaged the property.

Here is how to know who is poor/rich:

Russia $12,198 GDP per capita 2021

Finland $54,060

South Korea $34,744

Ukraine $4,567

North Korea $683 (2017)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 12:13 AM

America builds A-bombs and actually uses them in warfarre against a civilian population. TWICE..
Why are you hyperventilating about Russia?
I mean, seriously SECOND, why do you keep splattering crap all over the board?
And if you want to compare "pathways", how about the pathway where the USA builds A-bombs (first), uses them (first), constantly threatens the world with them (first), withdraws from all treaties limiting their deployment and use, but apparently suffers no ill-effects from its hyperaggressive nuclear stance?

The biggest threat to world peace is the USA, not Russia.

I found the ROUNDTABLE discussion particularly interesting when they discussed the Aegis Ashore system and why it is a provocation when deployed in Europe, starting at about 1 hour, and what it has to do with Ukraine.

As a (claimed) engineer, SECOND, you should be interested in the technical details of how this system works.

Oh, and BTW... you keep claiming that N Korea is Russia's protege. Russia has no ongoing support or even much trade with N Korea and hasn't had for decades.

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Kim desperately needed to replace the narrative of weakness after failing to make a widely expected deal with the United States at the Hanoi summit with a narrative of strength, both domestically and internationally. Last week’s summit with Putin allowed Kim to show stature internationally and discuss alternatives to the U.S.-proposed big deal on denuclearization. But he failed to win Russian support for weakening the international sanctions regime.

https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/where-does-russia-north-korea-relationshi
p-stand


Their trade can be measured in double-digit millions of dollars, it's that low.
MORE lies from SECOND!

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 12:28 AM

SECOND: The number of lies you'e told in this thread is staggering.

You'd think after a while it would become obvious TO YOU that you're regarded as a fatally twisted source of (dis)info.

Well, I have dishes to wash and other more important things to do than to try and straighten out someone's thinking who doesn't want to be straightened out.

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