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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Friday, July 29, 2022 5:29 AM

Dratted double

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Friday, July 29, 2022 5:30 AM


Finland beating Russia to death?
That's as good as Russia "losing" WWII.

Like I said: un- fuck your brain. It's like a not-so-fun house of mirrors in there.


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Friday, July 29, 2022 7:55 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

Finland beating Russia to death?
That's as good as Russia "losing" WWII.

Like I said: un- fuck your brain. It's like a not-so-fun house of mirrors in there.

Russians forget, but Finland didn't forget the Winter War:

126,875–167,976 dead or missing Russians
188,671–207,538 wounded or sick Russians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

Finns say, "So many Russians! Where will we bury them all?"

Asked what had been gained, one Soviet general replied, “We have won enough ground to bury our dead.” Stalin characteristically reacted in Draconian fashion, wasting little time in assigning blame and punishments.

https://www.airforcemag.com/PDF/MagazineArchive/Documents/2012/Septemb
er%202012/0912finland.pdf


Signym, the Russians tried again. It went worse the second time in the apply named Continuation War:

250,000–305,000 dead or missing Russians
575,000 medical casualties (including 385,000 wounded and 190,000 sick) Russians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War

Russian soldiers are the best in the world at dying for their country.

Russian civilians match their soldiers. The Siege of Leningrad killed many more Russians than died during the invasion of Finland:

1,017,881 killed, captured or missing Russians
2,418,185 wounded and sick Russians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad#Finnish_participation

The Finnish held the siege line, making sure no Russians got away from their just deserts for invading Finland.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, July 29, 2022 8:05 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
It would have been so much better for Russia if it had stayed home and gone about its business of building its own country, rather than either stealing somebody's land or destroying what Russia can't steal.



That's never been what it is about, stupid.

Never.

6ix, don't you dare repeat the lie that Russia had to attack Ukraine before NATO used Ukraine to attack Russia. NATO doesn't need Ukrainian territory to launch an attack on Russia. NATO already has five nations on Russia's border. A sixth nation will not make a difference.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, July 29, 2022 8:16 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
It would have been so much better for Russia if it had stayed home and gone about its business of building its own country, rather than either stealing somebody's land or destroying what Russia can't steal.



That's never been what it is about, stupid.

Never.

6ix, don't you dare repeat the lie that Russia had to attack Ukraine before NATO used Ukraine to attack Russia. NATO doesn't need Ukrainian territory to launch an attack on Russia. NATO already has five nations on Russia's border. A sixth nation will not make a difference.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm



It's not a lie.

Fuck NATO. Double fuck NATO in the ass.

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Friday, July 29, 2022 8:30 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm



It's not a lie.

Fuck NATO. Double fuck NATO in the ass.

6ix, NATO would knock you unconscious and then carve into your flesh the following words to teach you the difference between Russian myths and hard facts.

Myth 1: NATO promised Russia it would not expand after the Cold War

Fact: Such an agreement was never made. NATO’s door has been open to new members since it was founded in 1949 – and that has never changed. This “Open Door Policy” is enshrined in Article 10 of NATO’s founding treaty, which says “any other European State in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic” can apply for membership. Decisions on membership are taken by consensus among all Allies. No treaty signed by the United States, Europe and Russia included provisions on NATO membership.

The idea of NATO expansion beyond a united Germany was not on the agenda in 1989, particularly as the Warsaw Pact still existed. This was confirmed by Mikhail Gorbachev in an interview in 2014: "The topic of 'NATO expansion' was not discussed at all, and it wasn't brought up in those years. I say this with full responsibility. Not a single Eastern European country raised the issue, not even after the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in 1991. Western leaders didn't bring it up, either."

Declassified White House transcripts also reveal that, in 1997, Bill Clinton consistently refused Boris Yeltsin's offer of a 'gentlemen's agreement' that no former Soviet Republics would enter NATO: "I can't make commitments on behalf of NATO, and I'm not going to be in the position myself of vetoing NATO expansion with respect to any country, much less letting you or anyone else do so…NATO operates by consensus."

Five Russian Myths Debunked
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, July 29, 2022 9:07 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm



It's not a lie.

Fuck NATO. Double fuck NATO in the ass.

6ix, NATO would knock you unconscious and then carve into your flesh...



NATO is evil. NATO would do any of that to anybody.

FUCK NATO.

I will ALWAYS root for the other guy if NATO is involved. I would even back Justin Trudeau if he got on the wrong side of NATO.

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Friday, July 29, 2022 3:39 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

NATO is evil. NATO would do any of that to anybody.

FUCK NATO.

I will ALWAYS root for the other guy if NATO is involved. I would even back Justin Trudeau if he got on the wrong side of NATO.

Trump and Putin have the same anathema toward NATO. For Putin, it was because NATO stands in Putin's way. For Trump, because he is Trump and he worries that Putin could blackmail Trump. For 6ix, because he is a Trumptard.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, July 29, 2022 3:40 PM

Russia's Plan to Replenish Troops 'Damning' Its Army to 'Failure'

"As it's gone on, the Russians have simply shown very little appetite or inclination to improve," Stavridis said. "That is true not only in the failing logistics efforts, but also they continue these manifest war crimes, their battle plans are ridiculously bad as a general proposition."

"We were briefed that over 75,000 Russians have either been killed or wounded in Ukraine, which is huge. ... Over 80 percent of their land forces are bogged down, and they're tired."

To put 75,000 in perspective, under 2,500 U.S. service members were killed in nearly two decades of war in Afghanistan and less than 21,000 were wounded.

https://www.newsweek.com/russias-plan-replenish-troops-damning-its-arm
y-failure-general-1728915


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, July 29, 2022 3:52 PM

The enemy within: How Russia spread a secret web of agents across Ukraine
July 28, 2022, Reuters reports:

When the first armoured vehicles of Russia’s invading army reached the heart of Chornobyl nuclear plant on the afternoon of Feb. 24, they encountered a Ukrainian unit charged with defending the notorious facility.

In less than two hours, and without a fight, the 169 members of the Ukrainian National Guard laid down their weapons. Russia had taken Chornobyl, a repository for tonnes of nuclear material and a key staging post on the approach to Kyiv.

The fall of Chornobyl, site of the world’s worst nuclear disaster, stands out as an anomaly in the five-month old war: a successful blitzkrieg operation in a conflict marked elsewhere by a brutal and halting advance by Russian troops and grinding resistance by Ukraine.

Now a Reuters investigation has found that Russia’s success at Chornobyl was no accident, but part of a long-standing Kremlin operation to infiltrate the Ukrainian state with secret agents.

Five people with knowledge of the Kremlin’s preparations said war planners around President Vladimir Putin believed that, aided by these agents, Russia would require only a small military force and a few days to force Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s administration to quit, flee or capitulate.

Through interviews with dozens of officials in Russia and Ukraine and a review of Ukrainian court documents and statements to investigators, related to a probe into the conduct of people who worked at Chornobyl, Reuters has established that this infiltration reached far deeper than has been publicly acknowledged. The officials interviewed include people inside Russia who were briefed on Moscow’s invasion planning and Ukrainian investigators tasked with tracking down spies.

“Apart from the external enemy, we unfortunately have an internal enemy, and this enemy is no less dangerous,” the secretary of Ukraine’s National Security and Defence Council, Oleksiy Danilov, said in an interview.

At the time of the invasion, Danilov said, Russia had agents in the Ukrainian defence, security and law enforcement sectors. He declined to give names but said such traitors needed to be “neutralised” at all costs.

Ukraine’s State Bureau of Investigation is conducting a probe into whether the National Guard acted unlawfully by surrendering its weapons to an enemy, a local official told Reuters. The State Bureau of Investigation didn’t comment. The National Guard defended the actions of its unit at the plant, pointing to the risks of conflict at a nuclear site.

Court documents and testimony, reported here for the first time, reveal the role played by Chornobyl’s head of security, Valentin Viter, who is in detention and is being investigated for absenting himself from his post. An extract from the state register of pre-trial investigations, seen by Reuters, shows Viter is also suspected of treason, an allegation his lawyer says is unfounded. In a statement to investigators, Viter said that on the day of the invasion he spoke by phone with the National Guard unit commander. Viter advised the commander not to endanger his unit, telling him: “Spare your people.”

One source with direct knowledge of the Kremlin’s invasion plans told Reuters that Russian agents were deployed to Chornobyl last year to bribe officials and prepare the ground for a bloodless takeover. Reuters couldn’t independently verify the details of this assertion. However, Ukraine’s State Bureau of Investigation has said it is investigating a former top intelligence official, Andriy Naumov, on suspicion of treason for passing Chornobyl security secrets to a foreign state.

Continue reading… https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-rus
sia-saboteurs
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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