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Russian losses in Ukraine Now At 1 Million Killed Or Wounded

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 7:04 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth



Some idiots believe in behind the curve.

Other idiots believed in flatten the curve.



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Chiming in with your own personal counterfactual belief isn't helping, SIX.

There was a virus, and a lot of people died. Russia, Iran, China, etc had no common interest in admitting they were in a weakened state. Just because TPTB took advantage of the virus doesn't mean it didn't exist and that the original variant wasn't dangerous, IMNSHO.



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Sunday, July 24, 2022 7:15 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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SignyM:

I don't lie all the time, contradict myself with every other post, hate or defame others.
I've been proven right, and I will continue to be right, and you'll continue to be the flat-earther. Bc I don't lie to myself.
BTW, if you think your virtue-signalling is fooling anyone here as to what you are, well... you're only fooling yourself.

SECOND: Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth



Liar.
That's not my premise.
In addition, flat-earthers and I differ on how we arrive at something closer to the truth.
THEY rely on belief.
I rely on data and predictive (or at least explanatory) hypotheses.
YOU'RE the flat-earther, SECOND.
I don't care how many times you lie about me; you're still lying.


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The flat-earthers say they have data. The movie "Bending the Curve" shows them gathering their data. Then they interpret the data as proving the world is flat. It's funny how they botch the experiments without noticing their errors and their misconceptions about the physics of light or the physics of a ring laser gyroscope (which the flat-earthers were using to prove that the Earth does NOT rotate on an axis from the North Pole to the South Pole).

Signym, you say "I rely on data." Where do you get trustworthy data on the Ukraine War? When I asked about news stories you trust, that was what I asking about, but you didn't answer. Instead, you must pull facts out of thin air, by which I mean your big brain.

Signym, you also say "I rely on . . . predictive (or at least explanatory) hypotheses." Your hypotheses are unstated. I might guess at what they are, but if I did then you'd say I was wrong, but then you still won't give me the hypotheses that are driving your endless discourse. Here is one guess about your hypotheses: Russia wins. Here is another: Ukraine's government is Nazi.

I am certain that Russia will say it won, no matter what happens. Also certain that Russia will keep saying Nazis run Ukraine, no matter what. Gonna deny war crimes, too. Gonna blame Ukraine for false flag atrocities to pin on Russia.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 7:48 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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SignyM:

I don't lie all the time, contradict myself with every other post, hate or defame others.
I've been proven right, and I will continue to be right, and you'll continue to be the flat-earther. Bc I don't lie to myself.
BTW, if you think your virtue-signalling is fooling anyone here as to what you are, well... you're only fooling yourself.

SECOND: Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth



Liar.
That's not my premise.
In addition, flat-earthers and I differ on how we arrive at something closer to the truth.
THEY rely on belief.
I rely on data and predictive (or at least explanatory) hypotheses.
YOU'RE the flat-earther, SECOND.
I don't care how many times you lie about me; you're still lying.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


The flat-earthers say they have data. The movie "Bending the Curve" shows them gathering their data. Then they interpret the data as proving the world is flat. It's funny how they botch the experiments without noticing their errors and their misconceptions about the physics of light or the physics of a ring laser gyroscope (which the flat-earthers were using to prove that the Earth does NOT rotate on an axis from the North Pole to the South Pole).

Signym, you say "I rely on data." Where do you get trustworthy data on the Ukraine War? When I asked about news stories you trust, that was what I asking about, but you didn't answer. Instead, you must pull facts out of thin air, by which I mean your big brain.

Signym, you also say "I rely on . . . predictive (or at least explanatory) hypotheses." Your hypotheses are unstated. I might guess at what they are, but if I did then you'd say I was wrong, but then you still won't give me the hypotheses that are driving your endless discourse. Here is one guess about your hypotheses: Russia wins. Here is another: Ukraine's government is Nazi.

I am certain that Russia will say it won, no matter what happens. Also certain that Russia will keep saying Nazis run Ukraine, no matter what. Gonna deny war crimes, too. Gonna blame Ukraine for false flag atrocities to pin on Russia.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Shit, SECOND, I posted twice on the topic.

If you're saying that nearly everything we know is second-hand, you're right. Even what we THINK we see is highly processed by our brains already.

Leonardo da Vinci didn't see anything that a competent butcher didn't see. But they processed their vision with a view towards "how to cut more efficiently", while da Vinci looked at the human body in an entirely different way. So even "direct to experience" isn't as straightforward as one might think.

But it is possible to bang vastly different sources together and find the unreliable/ non-predictive sources. I can even draw on my background in the physical sciences to get to the nub. I think of explanations that encompass ALL of the data, and if possible make predictions and judge how far off the mark I am, or not.

You don't want to admit that it can be done bc your whole house of lies would collapse and you'd have to admit you're just a virtue-signalling, lying, twisted fuck of a malignancy.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 8:40 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth



Some idiots believe in behind the curve.

Other idiots believed in flatten the curve.



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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

Chiming in with your own personal counterfactual belief isn't helping, SIX.

There was a virus, and a lot of people died. Russia, Iran, China, etc had no common interest in admitting they were in a weakened state. Just because TPTB took advantage of the virus doesn't mean it didn't exist and that the original variant wasn't dangerous, IMNSHO.



Two weeks of "flatten the curve" turned into two years of everyone's life put on pause.

Nobody died of Covid. Had they taken care of themselves before a novel cold virus was around, they would still be alive today. (And I can guaranty you that the amount of people world-wide who changed any bad behaviors after this two years is in the fractions of a percent range, so nothing was gained.)

And so, so many of those death counts were lies altogether, with people who had been diagnosed with Covid within 30 days of their completely unrelated death (Ex: vehicle accident) being counted as Covid to bump the numbers.


Had TPTB not lied through their teeth, screwed up the world economy and ultimately held people's jobs for ransom to force them to take an experimental vaccination that we're not going to know the actual effects of for decades, there wouldn't be record levels of distrust right now in all of them.

We, as in human beings, are going to feel the ripples from this long after a lot of us are dead.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 9:19 AM

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SIX: Some idiots believe in behind the curve.
Other idiots believed in flatten the curve.



SIGNY: Chiming in with your own personal counterfactual belief isn't helping, SIX.
There was a virus, and a lot of people died. Russia, Iran, China, etc had no common interest in admitting they were in a weakened state. Just because TPTB took advantage of the virus doesn't mean it didn't exist and that the original variant wasn't dangerous, IMNSHO.

SIX: Two weeks of "flatten the curve" turned into two years of everyone's life put on pause.


True, that.

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SIX: Nobody died of Covid.
False.
By your reasoning, nobody ever dies "of" a disease, they always die because their heart eventually stopped beating. If they had managed to keep their heart beating, they wouldn't have died.

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SIX: Had they taken care of themselves before a novel cold virus was around, they would still be alive today. (And I can guaranty you that the amount of people world-wide who changed any bad behaviors after this two years is in the fractions of a percent range, so nothing was gained.)
False.
Now you're sounding like SECOND: Only "Trumptards" die.
Are you sure you're not SECOND?

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SIX: And so, so many of those death counts were lies altogether, with people who had been diagnosed with Covid within 30 days of their completely unrelated death (Ex: vehicle accident) being counted as Covid to bump the numbers.
Of course, you have nothing but your assertion to "prove" your point.

I look at other stats, and other nations.

If you look at the sheer numbers of deaths, irrespective of cause, there is a large spike right when the first two variants were sweeping the world. These deaths occurred well before any negative lockdown effects.

Not only that, it happened into multiple nations, like Iran. Something like a quarter of their high-level leaders keeled over. This supposedly happened because they all went to mosque together every Friday, and Iran is one of those cultures where men stand very close together. Literally "breathing each other's air".

Did this cause them to change their customs? Institute a long lockdown? As far as I know, they took their lumps but they also reported their dead.

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SIX: Had TPTB not lied through their teeth, screwed up the world economy and ultimately held people's jobs for ransom to force them to take an experimental vaccination that we're not going to know the actual effects of for decades, there wouldn't be record levels of distrust right now in all of them.

A) First of all, "the world" didn't all respond that way There are a lot of nations with high Covid deaths that didn't lock down for extended periods of time and didn't impose vaccine mandates. Still, they had Covid deaths And they admit it.
B) You - and others- area making the mistake of reacting emotionally and oppositionally, just like some are driven by propaganda to react emotionally to conform.

Put emotion on hold and brain in gear.

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SIX: We, as in human beings, are going to feel the ripples from this long after a lot of us are dead.
"This" what?
Vaccine? Hardly.
Government overreach?
Economic malaise?
Social effects on children?

WHAT are you suggesting and HOW do you propose "this" is going to come about? Don't be a JO753. Don't be afraid that "something" is going to happen "somehow". There be paranoia.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 9:33 AM

And yet, nobody died of the flu for 2.5 years.

Funny that.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 9:43 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And yet, nobody died of the flu for 2.5 years.

Funny that.

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Uh huh.

So, you admit that people can die of a virus?

Do you have stats from every nation across the entire globe? Or do you suppose everyone is all colluding together on this topic?

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 5:31 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

Shit, SECOND, I posted twice on the topic.

If you're saying that nearly everything we know is second-hand, you're right. Even what we THINK we see is highly processed by our brains already.

Leonardo da Vinci didn't see anything that a competent butcher didn't see. But they processed their vision with a view towards "how to cut more efficiently", while da Vinci looked at the human body in an entirely different way. So even "direct to experience" isn't as straightforward as one might think.

But it is possible to bang vastly different sources together and find the unreliable/ non-predictive sources. I can even draw on my background in the physical sciences to get to the nub. I think of explanations that encompass ALL of the data, and if possible make predictions and judge how far off the mark I am, or not.

You don't want to admit that it can be done bc your whole house of lies would collapse and you'd have to admit you're just a virtue-signalling, lying, twisted fuck of a malignancy.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


There you go, again, congratulating yourself and excoriating your enemies. A close analogy for the role you are playing, Signym, would be those people who once wrote multi-page letters to famous scientists and now write trolling comments on the blogs of famous scientists telling the scientist that there is a new theory from the troll and the widely held old scientific theories are lies and misconceptions spread by charlatans and evil elitists.

Signym, I would say the following is true. What do you say?: Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky says his forces are advancing "step by step" on the occupied southern city of Kherson.
The city fell to Russia in the opening days of the war and sits on a strategic location west of the Dnipro river.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-says-it-is-advancing-on-o
ccupied-city/ar-AAZUtMT


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 6:14 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And yet, nobody died of the flu for 2.5 years.

Funny that.

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Uh huh.

So, you admit that people can die of a virus?

Do you have stats from every nation across the entire globe? Or do you suppose everyone is all colluding together on this topic?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake




And yet, nobody died of the flu for 2.5 years.

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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 6:42 PM

Ukraine will lose... our money.

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