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Russian losses in Ukraine Now At 1 Million Killed Or Wounded

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 3:42 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.

We're less than 4 months away from proving that theory as a fact.



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In four months Ukraine and Russia will still be at war. Congress will still be stymied. Indiana will still be Republican territory. California will still be Democratic territory. In four months maybe an American, inspired by the Shinzo Abe assassination, will kill Trump but I doubt it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 3:48 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
I DON'T TRUST UKRAINE STORIES.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO POST THAT?

Russia wants to look like it's winning. It wants it's people on side (as the Brits say.)

Ukraine wants to look like it's winning. It wants to keep the EU, NATO, and the USA on side. All of that money! Somebody in Ukraine is getting rich!

The USA wants to paint Russia as both dangerously evil and, at the same time, clownishly incompetent. Seems like a recipe for cognitive dissonance, but brainwashed people don't suffer from that bc you need some cognition for that dissonance.

As a result, what I have found is that Russia admits losses slowly, if at all. But if they say they've done something, they're usually truthful bc eventually Ukraine and the west have to admit the front line has moved, or that Ukraine is suffering heavy losses.

Kiev? Tells BIG FAT JUICY WHOPPERS that are eventually discredited. The Ghost of Kiev. The brave soldiers of Snakes Island. Mass rapes by Russian soldiers. Offensives that are going to happen, any day now! "Million man army". It's gotten to the point I shitcan anything coming out of Kiev.

The USA has its muddled message. We're supporting democracy in Ukraine! No, weren't weakening Russia to cause regime change! Russia is a clusterfuck! But it's so powerful it has caused both the global food crisis AND the energy crisis! And if course the whoopers: Putin is dying. Shoigu had a heart attack. Gerasimov has been fired. Russia is running out of missiles. The stuff that doesn't cancel itself often belongs in the shitcan, too. WHY the neocons have such a hardon for Russia, I don't know. It's as bad as JO753"s paranoia that Russia might do "something" "somehow", altho he can't say what, or how.

What I get out of the welter of propaganda sloshing around is that Russia's actions are explained by security issues, and America's actions are explained by aggression.

When the neocons tried to topple Syria, a Russian sent ships from Sebastopol athwart the Syrian coast. A lightbulb went on in the neocons' heads Oh yeah! Sebastopol'. After that, they made it their mission to acquire Russia's only warm water naval base.

The neocons have also had this fixation about creating a cordon sanitaire, and eventually breaking up Russia for a resource grab. So NATO expanded inexorably east, and NATO missiles went into Poland and Romania, and it looked like Ukraine might be next

Go back to Putin's Security Council speech of 2007. I think you'll find it all there.


All of the rest is just window-dressing, IMHO .



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Your answers to all questions are emptiness, Signym. Have you been taking lesson from 6ix? He is always saying Nobody cares. I can see why nothing happens worth talking about in his life, although that doesn't stop him from writing. He lives in a void of emptiness. He is drifting through space until his oxygen runs out.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 3:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
I DON'T TRUST UKRAINE STORIES.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO POST THAT?

Russia wants to look like it's winning. It wants its people on side (as the Brits say.)

Ukraine wants to look like it's winning. It wants to keep the EU, NATO, and the USA on side. All of that money! Somebody in Ukraine is getting rich!

The USA wants to paint Russia as both dangerously evil and, at the same time, clownishly incompetent. Seems like a recipe for cognitive dissonance, but brainwashed people don't suffer from that bc you need some cognition for that dissonance.

As a result, what I have found is that Russia admits losses slowly, if at all. But if they say they've done something, they're usually truthful bc eventually Ukraine and the west have to admit the front line has moved, or that Ukraine is suffering heavy losses.

Kiev? Tells BIG FAT JUICY WHOPPERS that are eventually discredited. The Ghost of Kiev. The brave soldiers of Snakes Island. Mass rapes by Russian soldiers. Offensives that are going to happen, any day now! "Million man army". It's gotten to the point I shitcan anything coming out of Kiev.

The USA has its muddled message. We're supporting democracy in Ukraine! No, we're weakening Russia to cause regime change! Russia is a clusterfuck! But it's so powerful it has caused both the global food crisis AND the energy crisis! And if course the whoopers: Putin is dying. Shoigu had a heart attack. Gerasimov has been fired. Russia is running out of missiles. The stuff that doesn't cancel itself often belongs in the shitcan, too. WHY the neocons have such a hardon for Russia, I don't know. It's as bad as JO753"s paranoia that Russia might do "something" "somehow", altho he can't say what, or how.

What I get out of the welter of propaganda sloshing around is that Russia's actions are explained by security issues, and America's actions are explained by aggression.

When the neocons tried to topple Syria, Russia sent ships from Sebastopol athwart the Syrian coast. A lightbulb went on in the neocons' heads Oh yeah! Sebastopol'. After that, they made it their mission to acquire Russia's only warm water naval base.

The neocons have also had this fixation about creating a cordon sanitaire, and eventually breaking up Russia for a resource grab. So NATO expanded inexorably east, and NATO missiles went into Poland and Romania, and it looked like Ukraine might be next

Go back to Putin's Security Council speech of 2007. I think you'll find it all there.


All of the rest is just window-dressing, IMHO .



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


. Now, again,IMHO neither Russia nor China can create existential problems for us. We, OTOH, have done that to ourselves. De-industrialization Wealth gap. Debt load. Energy dependence. No border protection. Lack of unity. Dependence on preying on weaker nations.

All Russia and China have to do is stop participating in our system, defend their territories, provide an alternative "world order" financial and trade strucutre for less-developed nations plus military protection, and watch us keel over.

Nobody has to attack us. Our elites have already done that.


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Sunday, July 24, 2022 3:57 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
I DON'T TRUST UKRAINE STORIES.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO POST THAT?

Russia wants to look like it's winning. It wants it's people on side (as the Brits say.)

Ukraine wants to look like it's winning. It wants to keep the EU, NATO, and the USA on side. All of that money! Somebody in Ukraine is getting rich!

The USA wants to paint Russia as both dangerously evil and, at the same time, clownishly incompetent. Seems like a recipe for cognitive dissonance, but brainwashed people don't suffer from that bc you need some cognition for that dissonance.

As a result, what I have found is that Russia admits losses slowly, if at all. But if they say they've done something, they're usually truthful bc eventually Ukraine and the west have to admit the front line has moved, or that Ukraine is suffering heavy losses.

Kiev? Tells BIG FAT JUICY WHOPPERS that are eventually discredited. The Ghost of Kiev. The brave soldiers of Snakes Island. Mass rapes by Russian soldiers. Offensives that are going to happen, any day now! "Million man army". It's gotten to the point I shitcan anything coming out of Kiev.

The USA has its muddled message. We're supporting democracy in Ukraine! No, weren't weakening Russia to cause regime change! Russia is a clusterfuck! But it's so powerful it has caused both the global food crisis AND the energy crisis! And if course the whoopers: Putin is dying. Shoigu had a heart attack. Gerasimov has been fired. Russia is running out of missiles. The stuff that doesn't cancel itself often belongs in the shitcan, too. WHY the neocons have such a hardon for Russia, I don't know. It's as bad as JO753"s paranoia that Russia might do "something" "somehow", altho he can't say what, or how.

What I get out of the welter of propaganda sloshing around is that Russia's actions are explained by security issues, and America's actions are explained by aggression.

When the neocons tried to topple Syria, a Russian sent ships from Sebastopol athwart the Syrian coast. A lightbulb went on in the neocons' heads Oh yeah! Sebastopol'. After that, they made it their mission to acquire Russia's only warm water naval base.

The neocons have also had this fixation about creating a cordon sanitaire, and eventually breaking up Russia for a resource grab. So NATO expanded inexorably east, and NATO missiles went into Poland and Romania, and it looked like Ukraine might be next

Go back to Putin's Security Council speech of 2007. I think you'll find it all there.


All of the rest is just window-dressing, IMHO .



-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


Your answers to all questions are emptiness, Signym. Have you been taking lesson from 6ix? He is always saying Nobody cares. I can see why nothing happens worth talking about in his life, although that doesn't stop him from writing. He lives in a void of emptiness. He is drifting through space until his oxygen runs out.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

You asked how I see it.
You don't like the answer but you can't refute it. So you plug your ears and cover your eyes and say "Nyah Nyah Nyah I can't hear/see you".

That's the exact opposite of what you should be doing if you want to discern reality.

AFA SIX is concerned, there's a lot more positive happening in his life than yours. You are consumed by hate and are buried in lies, and you like it that way.


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Sunday, July 24, 2022 4:10 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

You asked how I see it.
You don't like the answer but you can't refute it. So you plug your ears and cover your eyes and say "Nyah Nyah Nyah I can't hear/see you".

That's the exact opposite of what you should be doing if you want to discern reality.

AFA SIX is concerned, there's a lot more positive happening in his life than yours. You are consumed by hate and are buried in lies, and you like it that way.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


Signym, you communicate too much. You have an entire alternate version of the shape of the world. I'm thinking of the documentary "Behind the Curve" about Flat Earthers. They have completely bent the world into a new shape to match the ideas in their heads, but the world didn't bend at all. The Flat Earthers are loony. So are you, Signym. But the Flat Earthers feel that their beliefs give the world meaning. That is worth something to them, but their feelings are actually worthless.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8132700/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 5:01 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

You asked how I see it.
You don't like the answer but you can't refute it. So you plug your ears and cover your eyes and say "Nyah Nyah Nyah I can't hear/see you".

That's the exact opposite of what you should be doing if you want to discern reality.

AFA SIX is concerned, there's a lot more positive happening in his life than yours. You are consumed by hate and are buried in lies, and you like it that way.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


Signym, you communicate too much. You have an entire alternate version of the shape of the world. I'm thinking of the documentary "Behind the Curve" about Flat Earthers. They have completely bent the world into a new shape to match the ideas in their heads, but the world didn't bend at all. The Flat Earthers are loony. So are you, Signym. But the Flat Earthers feel that their beliefs give the world meaning. That is worth something to them, but their feelings are actually worthless.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8132700/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

I don't lie all the time, contradict myself with every other post, hate or defame others.
I've been proven right, and I will continue to be right, and you'll continue to be the flat-earther. Bc I don't lie to myself.

BTW, if you think your virtue-signalling is fooling anyone here as to what you are, well... you're only fooling yourself.



I have pots to scrub and floors to vacuum. Infinitely better use of my time than conversion with twisted people.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 5:05 AM

FOR THUGR.

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I do the verification, SHITCAN.

I broaden my sources and bang different reports together. I read/listen outside of the bubble.

Sometimes,given enough time, they say the same thing. (Like "Putin entirely too healthy", or- eventually, the position of the frontline in Ukraine.)

I READ CAREFULLY. For example, Russians are NOT accused of "shooting down" MH17.

I LOOK FOR EVIDENCE. That DOESN'T mean gossip or allegations, it means verifiable fact, like file metadata, written documents, etc

I PAY ATTENTION TO WHO HAS LIED ABOUT WHAT IN THE PAST.

I parse for cui bono.

I look for patterns ... when does a "news item" become part of a daily drumbeat? When does it disappear? I look for "moving goalposts" or efforts to change the narrative or memory-hole a topic.

I look for efforts to play on emotion: Name-calling. Shocking allegtions. Dehumanization. Demonization. Fear-mongering.

Whenever some claims that "someone" is trying to do "something" I ask "HOW?". Because, in the real world, there will always be a trail of HOW. That's why I knew that Jan 6 wasn't an attempted coup or even an insurrection: There as no plan by which it could have come about, no assembled people, no asembled materiel. That's how I knew Iraq didn't have WMD. That's how I knew that Trump wasn't "colluding" with Russia: There was no "How are they doing that"?

I look beyond out-of-context snippets. I watched an entire 2 hours of a videotape of the Covington students waiting for their bus. It was crystal clear that the "respected Native Elder" waded into the students, confrontationally. Not the other way around.

I check to see if it contradicts itself, or if it makes sense. (For example, does it makes sense to say that Russia lost as many, or more, soldiers in Ukraine than Kiev did? No, it doesn't.)

I compare it to basics: where is the energy (I mean energy as in physics, not emotional agitation) flowing? Who is producing what? I talk to friends who do the same thing, more insightfully.

NOT YOU [SECOND], OF COURSE.
You post topics that contradict each other, sometimes one right after another. When you get your ass handed to you on one topic, you trail a red herring across it. You name-call. You splatter the board with anything you can find, whether it makes sense or not. You insinuate devious motives in others. You try and associate a person (Trump, Putin.me) with irrelevant others (Confederate generals, Hitler, Stalin, Putin etc)

If somone REALLY gets under your skin, you threaten them in a backhand way, or wish them ill.

Shit, son, you have SUCH an extensive history of lying I don't even read thru your posts anymore. They're 99.9% hate-driven pointless garbage.

It's clear you hate Americans and you hate anyone who loves America.

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Sunday, July 24, 2022 5:14 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

I don't lie all the time, contradict myself with every other post, hate or defame others.
I've been proven right, and I will continue to be right, and you'll continue to be the flat-earther. Bc I don't lie to myself.

BTW, if you think your virtue-signalling is fooling anyone here as to what you are, well... you're only fooling yourself.

Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth ( in your case, that Ukraine is wrong, Russia is right). Those who believe the world is spherical are being fooled because the round Earthers aren't using logic and aren't thinking clearly, unlike the flat Earthers. Or in your case, the Russophiles.



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Sunday, July 24, 2022 6:03 AM

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SignyM:

I don't lie all the time, contradict myself with every other post, hate or defame others.
I've been proven right, and I will continue to be right, and you'll continue to be the flat-earther. Bc I don't lie to myself.
BTW, if you think your virtue-signalling is fooling anyone here as to what you are, well... you're only fooling yourself.

SECOND: Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth



Liar.
That's not my premise.
In addition, flat-earthers and I differ on how we arrive at something closer to the truth.
THEY rely on belief.
I rely on data and predictive (or at least explanatory) hypotheses.
YOU'RE the flat-earther, SECOND.
I don't care how many times you lie about me; you're still lying.

ETA: I didn't even watch the video, pretty much like I ignore most of the crap you post. I've argued with flat earthers before. They cling to their delusion by ignoring the direction that 99.9% of the evidence points to, including the personal experience of people who have traveled around the globe and not fallen off.

99.9% of your posts tell me that you're lying.


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Sunday, July 24, 2022 6:42 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Signym, the movie "Behind the Curve" has the same premise you have: the mainstream media is hiding the truth about the flatness of the Earth



Some idiots believe in behind the curve.

Other idiots believed in flatten the curve.



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