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Why 6ix’s Hispanic step-father would vote for Trump, explained on Twitter --
Start with Frank Wilhoit's famous formulation: "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
In groups & out groups. Conservatism is about defending the privileges of current in groups; liberalism is about working toward a society of peers, in which all people are equal in the eyes of the law. That's the most basic division. Thing is, though, people truly & deeply committed to multiracial democracy are likely a minority even in the Dem coalition. Rather, the Dem coalition contains lots of groups that are currently shut out but *want in*.
When I worked at Grist I once went to a high-dollar fundraiser for ... Kerry? First Obama? Can't remember. Anyway, it was thrown by a gay group & I ended up chatting with one older gay guy -- maybe 50yo -- for quite a while. I'll never forget what he said.
He pointed to all the wealthy gay folks schmoozing at the party and said, "take a good look, David. In a few years they will all be Republican." I was like, what, why?! He said, "right now there's discrimination & abuse we have to fight. Once that changes and we're accepted we're all going to revert to voting for lower taxes. We're natural Republicans." I found that so harrowing. But it does highlight the fact that many out-groups, once they're let inside, will absolutely turn & defend the status quo. They will respond to being let in like so many do: by keeping others out. Lots of folks are not committed to breaking down the division between in-group & out-group so much as they're committed to *getting in the in group* & enjoying its hegemonic privileges.
This seems to me the intuitive way to understand how white Hispanics in Arizona or Cuban-Americans in Florida end up shifting to the GOP. They feel enough In that they are willing to crap on those Out, to defend the status quo against immigrants & professors & queers & etc.
Being in an out group is not ennobling -- it doesn't make you wiser or more compassionate. It doesn't guarantee you'll support true multiethnic democracy. It may just piss you off & cause you to strive to get in the inner circle.
This dynamic poses a problem for left politics generally. Some good portion of the coalition is just yearning to get in the winners' circle so they can quit associating with weak loser outcasts. They wanna be "white," with all that entails.
So anti-racism doesn't necessarily appeal to some Hispanic or Asian voters; wealth redistribution doesn't necessarily appeal to lower-income voters; etc. Many don't want a fair *system*, they just don't want to be on the ass end of the unfairness any more.
I kinda forgot why I started this thread, but I think it was mainly about the great "mystery" of Hispanics & Asians moving toward the GOP. Lots of people, esp. small-c conservative people, *hate* the idea of being in an out group, being a victim who needs defense. So as soon as the GOP stops (or just slows) actively shitting on them, they'll jump on board. They'll start yelling at libs about gender & shiftless welfare recipients. That's much more their comfort zone.
If there's one thing I've gotten from John Jost's books, it's that most people are conservative. Most engage in system justification. Most don't like the idea of overturning the status quo, even if they suffer from it. Left politics is always, always at a disadvantage.
David Roberts @drvolts 1:39 PM · Jul 16, 2022·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/drvolts/status/1548376803609174017
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LOL. That's funny.
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Blake Masters Is Peter Thiel’s Dream Candidate—and a Total Nightmare for Democracy
The right-wing tech giant, who has said he believes freedom and democracy are incompatible, has poured millions into his protégé’s Senate campaign.
He’s spending big to bend the American right to his will. He has also put at least $15 million behind Ohio Senate candidate JD Vance — another former employee, best known for his memoir Hillbilly Elegy — and helped arrange the Trump endorsement that secured Vance’s primary victory. In total, Thiel is supporting more than a dozen Republican candidates, most of whom have disputed the results of the 2020 election. And while he may soon have three senators whose rise he has helped fund — Vance, Masters, and Sen. Josh Hawley, another right-wing Stanford grad — it is Masters who would allow Thiel to effectively have a seat of his own.
More at https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/07/blake-masters-peter-thiel
-donald-trump-arizona-senate-mark-kelly/
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MotherJones crying about things it doesn't understand again I see.
*yawn*
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Quote:Too bad you don't understand that three employees of one multi-billionaire are about to be US Senators. One is already in. One more is guaranteed to be elected. The third is a coin flip - win/lose. All three owe their Senate seats to one guy who thinks Democracy should be replaced because it is obsolete technology.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
MotherJones crying about things it doesn't understand again I see.
*yawn*
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Too bad you don't understand that three employees of one multi-billionaire are about to be US Senators. One is already in. One more is guaranteed to be elected. The third is a coin flip - win/lose. All three owe their Senate seats to one guy who thinks Democracy should be replaced because it is obsolete technology.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
MotherJones crying about things it doesn't understand again I see.
*yawn*
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Maybe if Soros hadn't shown others how to buy up elections and put people unfit for office all over the country, we wouldn't see other people doing it now too.
This is what happens when you NEVER call out the bad actors in your party.
Go fuck yourself now.
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The House on Thursday passed legislation that would protect access to birth control. The vote was 228-195, with eight Republicans joining every Democrat in voting in favor. All 195 "no" votes came from Republicans. The bill will die in the Senate because it requires 60 votes, but not one Republican will vote for it.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/birth-control-contraception-bill-pass-hou
se-vote/
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Originally posted by second:
The House on Thursday passed legislation that would protect access to birth control. The vote was 228-195, with eight Republicans joining every Democrat in voting in favor. All 195 "no" votes came from Republicans. The bill will die in the Senate because it requires 60 votes, but not one Republican will vote for it.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/birth-control-contraception-bill-pass-hou
se-vote/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Birth control isn't going anywhere you fuckin' dummy.
This isn't Ireland in the 1800s.
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Quote:You said the same about Roe v Wade, but the Catholic Church is opposed to Roe v Wade and the Republican Catholics on the Supreme Court had their way. The Catholic Church is opposed to many, many other things, including birth control. In case you didn't know: How the Catholic Church came to oppose birth control
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Originally posted by second:
The House on Thursday passed legislation that would protect access to birth control. The vote was 228-195, with eight Republicans joining every Democrat in voting in favor. All 195 "no" votes came from Republicans. The bill will die in the Senate because it requires 60 votes, but not one Republican will vote for it.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/birth-control-contraception-bill-pass-hou
se-vote/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Birth control isn't going anywhere you fuckin' dummy.
This isn't Ireland in the 1800s.
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https://theconversation.com/how-the-catholic-church-came-to-oppose-bir
th-control-95694
The one Democrat who is a Catholic on the Supreme Court was well aware that striking down Roe v Wade was a Catholic victory. That one particular Catholic did not force her religion on all Americans. She called those Republicans who do force their religion on non-Catholics lying sacks of shit during their confirmation hearings in the Senate:
Quote:Page 207 of 213 https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf
To reverse prior law “upon a ground no firmer than a change in the Court’s membership” — would invite the view that “this institution is little different from the two political branches of the Government.” No view could do “more lasting injury to this Court and to the system of law which it is our abiding mission to serve.” For overruling Roe, the Court would pay a “terrible price.”
The Justices who wrote those words were judges of wisdom. They would not have won any contests for the kind of ideological purity some court watchers want Justices to deliver. But if there were awards for Justices who left this Court better than they found it? And who for that reason left this country better? And the rule of law stronger? Sign those Justices up.
They knew that “the legitimacy of the Court is earned over time.” They also would have recognized that it can be destroyed much more quickly. They worked hard to avert that outcome in Casey. The American public, they thought, should never conclude that its constitutional protections hung by a thread — that a new majority, adhering to a new “doctrinal school,” could “by dint of numbers” alone expunge their rights. It is hard — no, it is impossible — to conclude that anything else has happened here. One of us once said that “it is not often in the law that so few have so quickly changed so much.” For all of us, in our time on this Court, that has never been more true than today. In overruling Roe and Casey, this Court betrays its guiding principles.
With sorrow — for this Court, but more, for the many millions of American women who have today lost a fundamental constitutional protection — we dissent.
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Quote:A Texas GOP lawmaker introduced a bill that would allow the death penalty for women who have an abortion.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Birth control isn't going anywhere you fuckin' dummy.
This isn't Ireland in the 1800s.
"The bill will end the discriminatory practice of terminating the life of innocent children, and will guarantee the equal protection of the laws to all Texans, no matter how small."
https://bit.ly/3cCplPq
KEN PAXTON
ATTORNEY GENERAL OF TEXAS
Advisory on Texas Law Upon Reversal of Roe v. Wade
For nearly half a century, Americans have lived under a legally incorrect and morally bankrupt court decision that created, out of thin air, a constitutional “right” to abortion. Roe v. Wade was an act of raw, partisan political will of unelected judges, and it had no basis in the text of the U.S. Constitution then or now. Today we celebrate Roe’s reversal, mindful that nothing can bring back the millions of lives lost since the Supreme Court federalized abortion policy and prohibited States from fully protecting their most vulnerable citizens. Thankfully, the current Court has finally acted to overturn this egregious act of unconstitutional judicial activism.
Texans want to know what to expect now that Roe is overturned. The answer is that without further action by the Texas Legislature, abortion will soon be clearly illegal in Texas. In 2021, the Texas Legislature passed the Human Life Protection Act of 2021 (“the Act”), which prohibits abortions in most circumstances and takes effect on the 30th day after “issuance of a United States Supreme Court judgment in a decision overruling, wholly or partly, Roe v. Wade. 410 U.S. 113 (1973), as modified by Planned Parenthood v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833 (1992), thereby allowing the states of the United States to prohibit abortion.”
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/execut
ive-management/Post-Roe%20Advisory.pdf
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