Abortion
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Sending $40 billion or $40 trillion or $40 bazillion would NOT decrease what goes to other projects. Congress has infinite dollars.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh. BTW... have you explained to the blacks and Latinos how sending $40 Billion to Ukraine was in their best interests yet?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-signs-40-billion-dollars-ukraine-ai
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This is all you need to know about Second.
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"We will not rest, we will not weary until we abolish abortion nationally as unconstitutional under the 14th Amendment," Americans United For Life board member Chad Pecknold said.
https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1548017620384747521
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:“I think states are not going to rest with just saying ‘there won’t be abortions in our state.’ I think they’re going to want to ban abortion for their citizens as much as they can, which would mean stopping them from traveling,” said David Cohen, professor at Drexel University’s Kline School of Law.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's not a single American citizen that isn't under house arrest that isn't 100% free to travel to any state they wanted to at this very moment. They don't even need a passport!
“We’re going to see state-against-state battles that are really going to divide this country even deeper on this issue,” he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/03/us-abortions-travel-wave
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Originally posted by second:Quote:“I think states are not going to rest with just saying ‘there won’t be abortions in our state.’ I think they’re going to want to ban abortion for their citizens as much as they can, which would mean stopping them from traveling,” said David Cohen, professor at Drexel University’s Kline School of Law.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's not a single American citizen that isn't under house arrest that isn't 100% free to travel to any state they wanted to at this very moment. They don't even need a passport!
“We’re going to see state-against-state battles that are really going to divide this country even deeper on this issue,” he said.
That doesn't change the facts. Nobody is prohibiting anybody from traveling.
Now traveling to get your baby murdered? Fine. But that's NOT what the intentionally poorly written article is claiming. And most people are stupid and only read the headline, which in this case is another complete fabrication.
In any event. I don't agree with it. There was nothing stopping me from taking the short jaunt across the border to Indiana to buy cheap cigarettes and gas back when I lived in Illinois many years ago. If I smoked weed today, there'd be nothing stopping me from driving the short distance to Illinois and buying a whole bunch legally and bringing it back home (as long as I wasn't recklessly driving and didn't get pulled over and searched when I got back to Indiana, at least).
My only dog in this race is that I don't want any state, local or federal tax dollars going to pay for the procedures. But that being said, I don't even agree with states making legislature completely banning the practice in the first place.
But this is the type of shit that happens when you go from Safe, Legal and Rare to downright celebrating it and living in a world where the grossest women alive are online keeping score of how many they've had.
Stop catering the the fucking wack-jobs on the far-left of the spectrum. Call out their bullshit. Don't allow them to continually normalize things like this.
Sanity is somewhere in the middle.
But Democrats have had the lunatics running things for well over a decade now and everybody is getting really fucking sick of their shit.
Even a lot of Democrats.
SPOILER ALERT: Not EVERYTHING is right when it comes out of the lips of somebody representing your Party. Your blind partisanship will be the undoing of the Democratic Party, possibly forever.
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Quote:Nice rant, 6ix, but I've heard it all before. Not from you, but from my brother-in-law and his younger brother. I wrote a rant about that only two day ago: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11589
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That doesn't change the facts. Nobody is prohibiting anybody from traveling.
Now traveling to get your baby murdered? Fine. But that's NOT what the intentionally poorly written article is claiming. And most people are stupid and only read the headline, which in this case is another complete fabrication.
In any event. I don't agree with it. There was nothing stopping me from taking the short jaunt across the border to Indiana to buy cheap cigarettes and gas back when I lived in Illinois many years ago. If I smoked weed today, there'd be nothing stopping me from driving the short distance to Illinois and buying a whole bunch legally and bringing it back home (as long as I wasn't recklessly driving and didn't get pulled over and searched when I got back to Indiana, at least).
My only dog in this race is that I don't want any state, local or federal tax dollars going to pay for the procedures. But that being said, I don't even agree with states making legislature completely banning the practice in the first place.
But this is the type of shit that happens when you go from Safe, Legal and Rare to downright celebrating it and living in a world where the grossest women alive are online keeping score of how many they've had.
Stop catering the the fucking wack-jobs on the far-left of the spectrum. Call out their bullshit. Don't allow them to continually normalize things like this.
Sanity is somewhere in the middle.
But Democrats have had the lunatics running things for well over a decade now and everybody is getting really fucking sick of their shit.
Even a lot of Democrats.
SPOILER ALERT: Not EVERYTHING is right when it comes out of the lips of somebody representing your Party. Your blind partisanship will be the undoing of the Democratic Party, possibly forever.
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To make a long story short, it never ends well for people who rant like you. For example, one step along the road to the ranting younger brother's doom was where he located his restaurant. I talked to him about how many other restaurants had failed at that exact same spot. He comes back with the reply that his establishment will be different. I tell him that restaurants serving Mexican food are NOT different. He replies that his will have an Irish bar! My reply was that jamming two ideas that frequently fail into one restaurant will not increases the chances of success. I did not invest in that restaurant because I couldn't trust that guy to correct himself when he makes a bad decision. The restaurant failed, but the younger brother would not admit failure until he was bankrupt. He could have shutdown at the end of his first lease, but he renewed in hopes that the next year his bad ideas would become good.
The now dead younger brother (who I will always remember as ranting and raving just like 6ix) drives home a lesson that people who think they are sane and competent, but do stupid things, are not sane no matter how loudly they insist they know what they are doing. 6ix, you only have two choices: Democrats or Republicans and I know perfectly well what the GOP is and who the people are that vote for Trump. On the other hand, Democrats are a mixture, some good, some bad. When I only have two choices, and I know for sure which choice will never admit they made a mistake, as in the case of that restaurant, I will go with the better choice. Until the USA establishes a third party that can get elected, rather than a two party system, the decision is easy.
It is easy to know where GOP stands on abortion. The GOP made a bad decision and it will never correct itself because "abortion is murder". It's not, but the GOP is crazy, exactly the same as the younger broth
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How the Supreme Court recalibrated the abortion debate in just 3 words
It's not just that US Supreme Court majorities upheld Mississippi's 15-week abortion ban and overturned Roe v. Wade. The opinion also skewed the crux of the conversation going forward -- with just three words.
"Unborn human being" is the term Associate Justice Samuel Alito adopted from the Mississippi statute, thereby replacing the key phrase in the landmark 1973 Roe ruling that spelled out a constitutional right to abortion: "potential life." It may seem like a semantic argument. Experts say it's anything but.
Alito didn't write God or Christianity or Bible anywhere in the opinion, but his justification is a veiled "religious narrative," said Rebecca Todd Peters, a religious studies professor at Elon University. By co-opting the language in Mississippi's law in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, the majority opinion gives credence to the notion -- embraced largely by the religious right -- that life begins at fertilization, she said. The ruling has already emboldened several states to ban and criminalize the medical procedure in almost all circumstances.
"That is an enormous shift," Peters said. "It erases whole groups of people who have different religious beliefs."
Various religions have relied on a range of wayposts, including fertilization, quickening (when the mother feels the fetus moving), when the embryo develops a heartbeat, ensoulment and birth.
Confounding matters is that, just like in Christian sects, there are chasms of disagreement among other religions -- not only regarding personhood but also a woman's bodily autonomy -- making holy texts a troublesome barometer for whether abortion should be outlawed. Worse, said Peters, is that by co-opting the term, "unborn human being," it signals "which religious voices get authority and power in our country."
"We've allowed a minority religious belief to curtail the rights of the majority of women in the country. I feel like I'm in the middle of a dystopian novel."
More than 50 religious groups sought to make this clear to the high court last year, filing a friend-of-the-court brief explaining religious traditions have various views of when life begins, affirm a woman's "moral right" to decide when to terminate pregnancy and stand by "the importance of ensuring reproductive choice for women in marginalized communities who are disproportionately harmed by the ban."
"By prohibiting abortions beyond 15 weeks gestation, the Ban precludes women from making that choice in accordance with their own moral, spiritual, and religious beliefs, which this Court has recognized as a constitutional right," the brief said.
The attitude that a woman would have to justify her decision to others is "rooted in religion," Peters said. It robs women of their autonomy and espouses a narrow, archaic view of Christianity that has long been malappropriated to dictate "women are to be subservient and meant to be child bearers," she said.
Religions and religious people vary widely
A Gallup poll in May -- before Roe's reversal -- found 55% of Americans identified as "pro-choice," while 39% said they're "pro-life." Only 13% of Americans said abortions should be prohibited across the board, and 53% said abortions should be legal in most or all circumstances, Gallup reported.
Breaking the percentages down by dogma demonstrates only a handful of groups -- Jehovah's Witnesses (68%), Mormons (66%) White evangelical Protestants (65%), Hispanic Protestants (58%) and Hispanic Catholics (52%) -- count a majority of members as opposing abortion, the nonprofit Public Religion Research Institute found in 2018.
Catholics have long driven the debate on abortion -- and five Catholics and a justice who was raised Catholic upheld Mississippi's 15-week ban -- even as the institute's d
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Life does begin at fertilization, you dumb shit.
Science will tell you that. You don't need to believe in fairy tales.
For the so-called party of Trust the Science, you guys rarely ever do, do you?
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Originally posted by second:
Nice rant, 6ix, but I've heard it all before. Not from you, but from my brother-in-law and his younger brother. I wrote a rant about that only two day ago: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11589
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Only two day ago, huh? DURRRRR!
And " jamming two ideas that frequently fail into one restaurant will not increases the chances of success.".
What's wrong with you? Are you having a stroke?
You have to be married to have a brother-in-law. You're not married.
Second is a poorly written character.
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Quote:This restaurant sold both food and alcohol in the bar and needed both halves of the business to be successful. I can see that 6ix is under the same delusion as my brother-in-law's dead brother -- that if either food or alcohol is successful, the restaurant as a whole will be successful. The dead man couldn't understand, even while he was losing money steadily, that his restaurant would fail unless he got both halves of his business working as they should. Not to mince words, he was too stupid to run a business. 6ix, don't go into business. You're the same kind of guy who can't understand.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And " jamming two ideas that frequently fail into one restaurant will not increases the chances of success.".
What's wrong with you? Are you having a stroke?
6ix, you also didn't understand what the Supreme Court did when it used the three words: "unborn human being". Once five Catholic Justices and a 6ixth Justice who was raised as a Catholic but became a Episcopalian, used those three words in their decision, inserting Catholic religious doctrine into United States law, it logically follows that any zygote, any embryo, any fetus is an "unborn human being" and therefore any abortion at any time is capital murder if a state legislature feels like declaring it to be murder. If Congress in DC decided to make it murder, Federal prosecutors in all 50 states and the territories would be filing federal murder charges against any woman who had an abortion. Oh well. Mistakes happen. Too bad if those three words "unborn human being" rip the country into pieces.
Quote:https://time.com/4045227/the-catholic-case-for-abortion-rights/
The Catechism contains only six paragraphs on abortion, including: “Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.” . . . Many church officials and antichoice Catholics now focus on the argument that the fetus is a person from the moment of conception.
Quote:https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_c
Abortion
2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.
on_cfaith_doc_20090711_aborto-procurato_en.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Nah. Read it again.
One of two things happened with you today.
1. You let Ted write your post.
OR
2. You had a stroke.
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