Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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'They behave like barbarians:' Ukraine's chief war crimes investigator sees few prospects for reconciliation with Russians
KYIV, Ukraine – As Russia has escalated its use of imprecise Soviet-era missiles against civilian infrastructure, Ukraine's top legal official said she doesn't see how ordinary Ukrainians and Russians can achieve reconciliation until Moscow "asks for forgiveness, pays reparations to the state" and ensures "all its war criminals are in prison."
Prosecutor General Iryna Venediktova was speaking exclusively to USA TODAY from her office in Ukraine's capital, where she is coordinating the work of hundreds of Ukrainian and international war crimes investigators and specialists. Her aim is to hold Russia's military and senior officials accountable for alleged indiscriminate missile strikes and shelling, civilian assassinations, torture, sexual violence, repeated assaults on hospitals, and for denying civilians access to food, water and humanitarian aid.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/they-behave-like-barbarians-ukrai
ne-s-chief-war-crimes-investigator-sees-few-prospects-for-reconciliation-with-russians/ar-AAZcSXc
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The people I know who voted for Trump twice, or more, were struggling through life long before Trump became a politician. I don't know what 6ix is because I have never been near 6ix,
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I must be in the wrong thread?
Most of the time, yes.
*****
Ya gotta admit, THUGR, you walked into that one!
I can see where Ted got confused. Second can't stop talking about me.
I think it's love.
Oh good. You're learning. Because I have a few hundred posts from you here where you seemed pretty convinced you had me pegged, while then writing a wall of text that doesn't apply at all to me.
Oh... wait. You probably did that here too. I don't read your dumb shit anymore.
Meanwhile, in reality...
The median rent costs $2000 a month; Median mortgage $1,200 (We'll split the difference and call that $1,600 I'm not paying), Median car payment $700, $140 car insurance (we'll call it $127 a month I'm not paying since I do pay $125 every six months for liability), $110 average monthly credit card payment, Average student debt payment $393, Average cell phone bill $114, Average cable bill $217 (We'll call it $197 since I only pay for internet and I got them down to $20 per month). I'm sure I'm missing other things that I'm not paying for. I certainly haven't even added gasoline to this list, of which I hardly pay for at all either. That's okay... I already have enough to illustrate my point at $3,241 per month worth of bills I don't have.
Well... not MISSING them.
There's 251 working days in the US in a year (if you include holidays, which I will even though the only jobs I've had in the last 13 years didn't).
251 / 12 is roughly 20.92. We'll just call it 21 working days in a month.
$3,241 / 21 = $270.01
Yup. I'm going to make $270.01 today, tax free, simply by not being a wage slave.
Do the math yourself to figure out how much income that would be in a year and you'll get a number higher than I've ever made in a single year in my life, before taxes... And I can imagine most Americans can say the same thing, which is why we need two adults working in most households and they still rack up credit card debt to "pay" for everything.
I'm going to go wrap up the electric in my garage and clean it all up. I've got to have a spot to put the brand new shiny shed door that I bought with cash to sit until my friend's dad comes over to pay off some of the favors he owes me and we get it installed.
Have fun today at work to pay off all that shit you bought that you don't need for anything other than to impress your rich Democrat "friends", honey.
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Originally posted by second:
'They behave like barbarians:' Ukraine's chief war crimes investigator...
Yep, more secondhand bullshit from SECOND.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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No transcripts of Putin's speeches?
Putin commonly speaks AT LENGTH, but western "journalists" hyperfocus on, literally, a snippet, ignoring the main thrust and spinning a preferred narrative. Selective reporting is a propagandists' favorite tool.
That snippet
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... will be viewed as both a thinly-veiled threat to the Baltic States of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania which fear he will launch war on them once he is done with Ukraine, and to Sweden and Finland as the two countries bid to join NATO.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10902225/Swedish-King-Finnish
-president-rushed-Baltic-island-hours-Putin-issued-veiled-threat.html
A threat, not an intention.
It is a reminder to Sweden, Finland, Lithuania, Poland etc that they have been at war with Russia over the centuries, the border has moved back and forth between the rise and fall of various dynasties (Did you know there was a Polish-Lithuanin empire that invaded Russia? Well, now you do.) and if these nations continue to threaten Russia's security, the borders may move once again.
I would not interpret this as anything more than a restatement that Russia intends to ensure its security by whatever means the west makes necessary.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I would not interpret this as anything more than a restatement that Russia intends to ensure its security by whatever means the west makes necessary.
"Even if it means being incredibly stupid and making things worse." - Putin
Yeah, look what killing innocent Ukrainian civilians just to grab a piece of land has gotten Russia: NATO & the US investing billions to arm Ukraine. Killing their own economy and devastating their place in the world all while clamping down on the few freedoms their citizens enjoy (like putting a lid on a simmering pot). Name me one other autocratic regime that has survived that? North Korea? China? Any others? You sure can pick 'em Ziggy.
You act like there was only one (very stupid) way to achieve Russian Security, by stealing it. You think just like a Russian.
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Putin’s War Was Never About NATO
Russia makes its own choices — however bad they are.
By Natalia Antonova, July 5, 2022, 1:49 PM
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/05/putin-russia-ukraine-war-nato/
As NATO met in Madrid last week, conspiracy theories about its role in Ukraine spread fast in Russian media. More respected theorists such as John Mearsheimer, meanwhile, still reiterate their claim that in making war, Russia was merely reacting to the West. Similar arguments have been put forth by other prominent thinkers, including Noam Chomsky.
There’s just one problem with this theory. At an event in June, leaning back casually in his chair, Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed that in Ukraine, he is fighting a war of imperialist conquest—not defending himself against NATO, as his apologists have repeatedly claimed.
“It is also our lot to return and strengthen,” Putin stated, referring to past Russian conquests, as he compared his legacy to that of Peter the Great.
The Russian president had already said before the invasion that he did not believe Ukraine was a real country, claiming that Ukrainians were part of Russia’s “own history, culture, and spiritual space.”
Since that was ignored by his apologists, Putin has now explicitly stated that he identifies with Peter—even if his Great Northern War against the Swedes did last 21 years, a not-so-subtle signal that Putin believes he can dig in with regard to Ukraine—and is inspired to “take back” what he believes to be rightfully Russia’s.
In this conception of regional history, Ukraine doesn’t even exist. It’s simply a province occupied by uppity serfs who need to be subdued for their own good.
Experts who should know better often frame Putin as a noble savage, not a savvy political actor. He is portrayed as strong and terrifying but also not responsible for his own actions. Instead, per the “realists,” as they call themselves, these actions are the inevitable outcomes of Russia’s so-called security concerns.
At the root of this is a deeply patronizing attitude toward Russia and Russians themselves. Only Americans, in this framing, make choices; everyone else merely responds or acts in accordance with the machinery of immutable state rules.
In order to hold someone responsible for their actions, you must first grant them agency. Mearsheimer, Chomsky, and German politicians who have dragged their feet on supplying heavy arms to Ukraine are refusing to do a very simple thing: recognize that Russia, all on its own, chose to invade a sovereign country and butcher its citizens. There was nothing compelling Russia to pick this war—or the 2014 war. Prior to 2014, the majority of Ukrainians did not want to be in NATO, and between 2008 and 2010, 88 to 93 percent of Ukrainians held positive views of Russia.
If Russia wanted Ukraine in its orbit, it could have chosen the path of economic incentives, political cooperation, and genuine aid. Instead, the Russian leadership chose imperial fantasies, demonizing Ukrainians on state TV, and, finally, an all-out, tragic war.
Of course, for Germans the memory of their own racist imperialism still haunts their decisions. They’re hesitant to be seen as too aggressive toward Russia, as evidenced by a long-standing “special relationship” with Moscow—but by conflating “Soviet” with “Russian,” the Germans are playing right into Putin’s hands. It was Ukraine that was the first victim of Adolf Hitler’s war on the Soviet Union, just as it was the first victim of Soviet terror itself.
Therefore, it is important for Western nations to listen to Ukrainians—who do not see themselves as serfs and who are willing to die to ensure that their children are not stolen or taken into Russian bondage. Ukrainians need heavy arms right now, not later, not whenever.
As Sarah Rainsford, a longtime Eastern Europe correspondent, has pointed out, Putin’s remarks in June about sharing a legacy with Peter the Great did not appear to come from a place of fear. Putin didn’t look cornered but relaxed and smiling. Putin’s army o
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You're bowing out again I see, Second.
Good.
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Quote:6ix made an argument that I will quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're bowing out again I see, Second.
Good.
Quote:6ix, here is the math for the number higher than you made in a year: $67,772.71 = $270.01 * 251
Meanwhile, in reality...
The median rent costs $2000 a month; Median mortgage $1,200 (We'll split the difference and call that $1,600 I'm not paying), Median car payment $700, $140 car insurance (we'll call it $127 a month I'm not paying since I do pay $125 every six months for liability), $110 average monthly credit card payment, Average student debt payment $393, Average cell phone bill $114, Average cable bill $217 (We'll call it $197 since I only pay for internet and I got them down to $20 per month). I'm sure I'm missing other things that I'm not paying for. I certainly haven't even added gasoline to this list, of which I hardly pay for at all either. That's okay... I already have enough to illustrate my point at $3,241 per month worth of bills I don't have.
There's 251 working days in the US in a year (if you include holidays, which I will even though the only jobs I've had in the last 13 years didn't).
251 / 12 is roughly 20.92. We'll just call it 21 working days in a month.
$3,241 / 21 = $270.01
Yup. I'm going to make $270.01 today, tax free, simply by not being a wage slave.
Do the math yourself to figure out how much income that would be in a year and you'll get a number higher than I've ever made in a single year in my life, before taxes...
6ix, if you think your argument makes sense, then how about my argument? I didn't have to buy a Boeing 777-300er (list price $375.5 million). Instead, I bought tickets for the whole family. I saved so much money by not owning a plane that I can retire. 6ix, just kidding. This argument does not make good sense, but it is close to the absurd argument 6ix is making.
Anyway, I don't "argue" with Trumptards because they are foolish people and don't know it. I used to argue with my East Texas cousins, all Trumptards, at least the ones that lived long enough to vote in 2016. The last of my cousins, Laurie, who twice voted for Trump (or 4 times if you count both the primary and general elections) died recently. She was 3 years younger than me. All the Trumptard cousins died younger than I am now, and their children are dying young, too, because Trumptards are silly and yet dangerous to the health of people around them. (Russians are dangerous to the health of people around them. Ukrainians know this for a fact.)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:People who support Putin make similar bombastic statements as Signym makes. For one example from Julia Davis @JuliaDavisNews
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
. . . if these nations continue to threaten Russia's security, the borders may move once again.
I would not interpret this as anything more than a restatement that Russia intends to ensure its security by whatever means the west makes necessary.
Chechen parliament speaker Magomed Daudov says that first and foremost, Chechen battalions in Ukraine are fighting a jihad to defend Islam.
Daudov says that unless Putin stops them, they will keep going until they reach Berlin.
11:44 AM · Jul 5, 2022·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1544361566082109445
This kind of emotional sentiment will kill many people and destroy much real estate. (Why stop at Berlin? The Chechen should go onward to London! Boris Johnson sent weapons to Ukraine. He must be punished by destroying the House of Parliament in London! )
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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An order by the international court of justice told Russia to withdraw from Ukraine. Is Russia withdrawing? No! Instead, what is Russia doing?
HANOI, July 6 (Reuters) - Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Wednesday called on all parties in the world to make efforts to protect international laws as "the world is evolving in a complicated manner."
Lavrov was speaking though a translator at a meeting with his Vietnamese counterpart Bui Thanh Son in Hanoi.
His comments come as Russia has been accused by Western countries of breaching international law through its invasion of Ukraine. European Union leaders have urged Moscow to abide by an order by the international court of justice telling Russia to withdraw from Ukraine.
"Vietnam is a key partner (of Russia) in ASEAN...and the two countries' relations are based on history and their common fight for justice," Lavrov said at the meeting, referring to the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.
Vietnam and Russia have close ties dating back to the Soviet era and Hanoi has not so far condemned Russia's war in Ukraine, which Moscow calls a "special operation".
Lavrov's visit to Hanoi comes as the two nations mark the 10th anniversary of their "comprehensive strategic partnership".
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/russias-lavrov-calls-effort
s-protect-international-laws-2022-07-06/
What International Law is Russia disobeying?
16 March 2022 -- By a vote of 13 to two, with Vice-President Kirill Gevorgian of Russia and Judge Xue Hanqin of China dissenting, the ICJ ruled that Russia “shall immediately suspend the military operations that it commenced on 24 February.”
The court’s ruling – the first such verdict handed down by the ‘world court’ since the Russian invasion began – is in response to a suit filed by Ukraine on 27 February, accusing Russia of manipulating the concept of genocide to justify its military aggression.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/03/1114052
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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