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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Sunday, July 3, 2022 12:13 AM
Quote:Jim Tankersly of The New York Times asked Biden, “How long is it fair to expect American drivers, and drivers around the world, to pay that premium for this war?” Biden gave a stupid answer, which shows he knows nothing about how gasoline prices are set:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
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“As long as it takes,” Biden said. “Russia cannot in fact defeat Ukraine and move beyond Ukraine. The bottom line is ultimately the reason why gas prices are up is because of Russia. Russia, Russia, Russia. The reason why the food crisis exists is because of Russia,” Biden added.
My answer, if I was President: "Putin and I both want low, low gasoline and food prices and if that means Ukraine has to be annihilated I will be sending American troops to destroy Ukraine following Putin's orders. Did you understand I was being facetious, you goddamn knucklehead reporter? To answer your question, Ukraine/America/NATO/EU will be annihilating Putin. However long that takes, that is how long it is fair to expect American drivers, and drivers around the world, to pay that premium for this war."
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Sunday, July 3, 2022 6:04 AM
Wow, personalize things much, SECOND?
If your aim is to "destroy Putin", just send in a crack assasination squad. I mean, how complicated can it be? That way, we won't have to fight to the last Ukrainian and destroy the collective west's economy.
But, yanno, the aim isn't REALLY to destroy Putin, is it? He's just a convenient figurehead to rally idiots. So why are you engaging in this exercise?
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Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:37 AM
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Lysichansk Is Under Control Of The Russian Side
Lysichansk is now under control of the Russian side of the war.
This was reported by a Russian speaking journalist from the Lysichansk City Park (map) which is at the center of the city. There are a few locals around him who seem to be happy. There is no background noise of shooting or artillery fire or impacts in his report.
The Lugansk People’s Republic now has the entire territory of the Lugansk oblast under its control.
This comes only a week after the cauldron around Lysichansk began to close. Until a few hours ago there was still a chance to flee from Lysichansk but the only passable road was under Russian fire. It is not know yet how many made it out or how many gave up and were taken prisoners.
MORE AT https://www.moonofalabama.org/
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Sunday, July 3, 2022 8:14 AM
Quote:It is not an exercise. Putin intends to take all of Ukraine, Poland, the Balkins. It is his dream. Check out "How Far Do Putin’s Imperial Ambitions Go?" The Russian president and his inner circle speak openly about retaking the vast lands that Moscow once controlled. As the war continues in Ukraine, Russia’s neighbors are taking the threats seriously. By Yaroslav Trofimov
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wow, personalize things much, SECOND?
If your aim is to "destroy Putin", just send in a crack assasination squad. I mean, how complicated can it be? That way, we won't have to fight to the last Ukrainian and destroy the collective west's economy.
But, yanno, the aim isn't REALLY to destroy Putin, is it? He's just a convenient figurehead to rally idiots. So why are you engaging in this exercise?
June 24, 2022 11:53 am ET http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11580
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Assassinate Putin? Don't be silly, Signym. The CIA tried assassinating Castro dozens of times. Castro died an old man so the assassination route is not a believable tactic for America. Killing Putin would require assassins who know it is a kamikaze mission and the CIA doesn't have anybody like that on call. Not even Tom Cruise in one of his Mission Impossible movies ever goes in knowing that he will die.
But if America can't kill Putin, Putin's soldiers are easy to kill by the tens of thousands, as Ukraine has proved. Unfortunately for Putin's dream of expanding the Russian Empire, he only has a smallish number of soldiers to expend. Putin can't emulate Stalin and kill Russians by the millions, confident that the peasants will keep sacrificing themselves for Mother Russia. Putin will have to quit his invasion when the number of dead and wounded gets to, who knows, 500,000. I don't think even Putin knows. Whatever the number, ordinary Russians will realize that this is a stupid war being fought because Putin needs to feel good about himself as the reincarnation of Peter the Great. Killing/wounding 500,000 Russians is a very doable number for Ukraine, assuming the EU/NATO/UK/USA keep supplying ammo.
Putin is not the only old man with delusions. Biden has some, too, which he tweets @POTUS
My message to the companies running gas stations and setting prices at the pump is simple: this is a time of war and global peril.
Bring down the price you are charging at the pump to reflect the cost you’re paying for the product. And do it now.
11:00 AM · Jul 2, 2022·The White House
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1543263229006254080
There is not even one gasoline refinery management team that will do what Biden asked. He should NOT have asked politely. It makes Biden look stupid.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Sunday, July 3, 2022 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wow, personalize things much, SECOND?
If your aim is to "destroy Putin", just send in a crack assasination squad. I mean, how complicated can it be? That way, we won't have to fight to the last Ukrainian and destroy the collective west's economy.
But, yanno, the aim isn't REALLY to destroy Putin, is it? He's just a convenient figurehead to rally idiots. So why are you engaging in this exercise?
SECOND: It is not an exercise. Putin intends to take all of Ukraine, Poland, the Balkins. It is his dream.
Another screeching halt. You've misrepresented me so many times, why should I credit you with anything about Putin? Since you don't even accurately represent what Putin has said, (which can be objectively verified) I doubt you have any idea about his "dreams".
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Sunday, July 3, 2022 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Jim Tankersly of The New York Times asked Biden, “How long is it fair to expect American drivers, and drivers around the world, to pay that premium for this war?” Biden gave a stupid answer, which shows he knows nothing about how gasoline prices are set:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
“As long as it takes,” Biden said. “Russia cannot in fact defeat Ukraine and move beyond Ukraine. The bottom line is ultimately the reason why gas prices are up is because of Russia. Russia, Russia, Russia. The reason why the food crisis exists is because of Russia,” Biden added.
My answer, if I was President: "Putin and I both want low, low gasoline and food prices and if that means Ukraine has to be annihilated I will be sending American troops to destroy Ukraine following Putin's orders. Did you understand I was being facetious, you goddamn knucklehead reporter? To answer your question, Ukraine/America/NATO/EU will be annihilating Putin. However long that takes, that is how long it is fair to expect American drivers, and drivers around the world, to pay that premium for this war."
Fuck Joe Biden*. Fuck Democrats. Fuck Ukraine.
American drivers will pay a premium for this war until November 9th.
We're getting the warmongering Neo-Cons out of office too.
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Sunday, July 3, 2022 3:26 PM
Quote:Check out "How Far Do Putin’s Imperial Ambitions Go?" The Russian president and his inner circle speak openly about retaking the vast lands that Moscow once controlled. As the war continues in Ukraine, Russia’s neighbors are taking the threats seriously. By Yaroslav Trofimov
Originally posted by SignyM:
Another screeching halt. You've misrepresented me so many times, why should I credit you with anything about Putin? Since you don't even accurately represent what Putin has said, (which can be objectively verified) I doubt you have any idea about his "dreams".
June 24, 2022 11:53 am ET http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11580
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Sunday, July 3, 2022 3:45 PM
Quote:During WWII the Federal government had price controls on gasoline because it was a perfect time for price gouging by Capitalists. The government could actually remember what happened in WWI. But government has forgotten what it once knew. Today there are no price controls.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
American drivers will pay a premium for this war until November 9th.
We're getting the warmongering Neo-Cons out of office too.
There is a US Inflation Calculator to easily calculate how the buying power of the US dollar has changed from 1913-present:
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
https://smartasset.com/investing/inflation-calculator
What once cost $1 now costs $29.52
Here is a different calculator that compares prices from centuries ago:
https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1844?amount=1
$1 in 1844 is worth $38.97 today.
Capitalism is a machine for raising prices. Capitalists can take extremely profitable advantage of Americans who don't understand how Capitalism works.
Ben Franklin knew how Capitalism works. He set aside a small amount of money for an experiment. Franklin’s glorious 200-year experiment in microlending came to an official end in 1990, by which time the compounded value of the funds was $4.5 million in Boston and $2 million in Philadelphia. Inflation is wonderful, assuming you have money and use inflation to achieve ever larger wealth.
https://www.historynet.com/ben-franklins-gift-keeps-giving/
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Sunday, July 3, 2022 6:34 PM
Quote:One liar quoting another liar.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Check out "How Far Do Putin’s Imperial Ambitions Go?" The Russian president and his inner circle speak openly about retaking the vast lands that Moscow once controlled. As the war continues in Ukraine, Russia’s neighbors are taking the threats seriously. By Yaroslav Trofimov
Originally posted by SignyM:
Another screeching halt. You've misrepresented me so many times, why should I credit you with anything about Putin? Since you don't even accurately represent what Putin has said, (which can be objectively verified) I doubt you have any idea about his "dreams".
June 24, 2022 11:53 am ET http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11580
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
You do that all the time, SECOND.
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Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:07 PM
Quote:Quoting Putin: Mr. Putin said that he views Ukraine as just the first step, with many other territories potential targets. On June 9, he held court in front of a sign proclaiming “Peter the Great, the Birth of the Empire” at an exhibition honoring the 350th anniversary of Russia’s first emperor. With a smile, Mr. Putin explained that when Peter conquered from Sweden the area of today’s St. Petersburg and the city of Narva, currently in Estonia, “he was merely returning what is ours, and strengthening it,” even though nobody else at the time recognized the legality of Russia’s land grab.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
One liar quoting another liar.
You do that all the time, SECOND.
“It seems like it is our destiny too, to return and to strengthen,” Mr. Putin added, suggesting that—like the wars of Peter the Great—the current conflict could last more than two decades. His senior adviser Vladimir Medinsky was even more explicit. He lamented at the same conference that Russia’s territory has greatly diminished from the time when Moscow controlled one-sixth of the planet’s surface, including Finland, Poland, and 14 other currently independent nations. That unfortunate territorial retreat “is not forever,” he said.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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