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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:03 AM

Trump said of how to help Ukraine during Russia’s invasion, “Well what I would do, is I would, we would, we have tremendous military capability and what we can do without planes, to be honest with you, without 44-year-old jets, what we can do is enormous, and we should be doing it and we should be helping them to survive and they’re doing an amazing job.”

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-ukraine-quote/

Mr. Trump said, “The Russian attack on Ukraine is appalling. It’s an outrage and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur. … We are praying for the proud people of Ukraine.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/feb/26/donald-trump-condemns
-russian-invasion-ukraine-atr
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:11 AM

This wouldn't even be happening if Trump were President, and gas would be $2.30 right now.

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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

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Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:39 AM

Russia warns Ukraine attempts to retake Crimea will be seen as 'declaration of war'

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-warns-ukraine-attempts-retake-cri
mea-seen-declaration-war


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, July 2, 2022 9:07 AM

SECOND: blah blah blah...

CAPON: yada yada yada...

I don't think the Russian Security Council cares how much you wag your tongues or how busy your fingers are in spreading fantasies. In the end, neither Kiev nor the collective west have enough military or economic power to stop Russia. Anything else is delusional.

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Saturday, July 2, 2022 4:18 PM

Russia's messages with missiles tell West to back off

While much of the attritional war in Ukraine’s east is hidden from sight, the brutality of Russian missile strikes on a mall in the central city of Kremenchuk and on residential buildings in the capital, Kyiv, unfolded in full view of the world and especially of Western leaders gathered for a trio of summits in Europe.

Kyiv Mayor Vitali Klitschko suggested the missiles are a message from Putim, three days after EU leaders unanimously agreed to make Ukraine a candidate for membership.

The former commanding general of U.S. Army forces in Europe, retired Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, went further in connecting the attack and the meetings. “The Russians are humiliating the leaders of the West,” he said.

Defying the evidence, Putin and his officials deny that Russia hit residential areas.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russias-messages-missil
es-west-back-off-86110879


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Originally posted by SignyM:
In the end, neither Kiev nor the collective west have enough military or economic power to stop Russia. Anything else is delusional.

Sorry to tell a Ruskie this but Russia has an economy smaller than South Korea, larger than North Korea. That Russian smallness limits what Putin can do. And there is a time limit on Putin. When Putin dies, absurdities irrupt into the Russian narrative. And Putin will die before the West runs out of ammo to kill Russian soldiers.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gnp-by-country

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:38 PM

Ukraine-Russia war: The first four months in numbers

Army Technology reports:

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February this year has resulted in a reaffirmation among NATO members about the need for the Alliance and the role it plays in European security. However, as the war drags on, the scale of the challenge is becoming ever clearer.

Earlier this week, NATO announced that it would increase the number of forces held as rapid readiness to more than 300,000, up from around 40,000 at present, mainly based on the Alliance’s eastern front.

The move comes after decades of counter-insurgency operations by member states in countries such as Afghanistan and represents an indication of a return to a Cold War stance when NATO faced off against the Soviet Union. The casualty rates on both sides of the Ukraine-Russia war indicate a type of conflict being fought that has not been seen on the European continent for generations.

Speaking at the RUSI Land Power Conference in London on 28 June, the UK Chief of the General Staff General Patrick Sanders outlined the scale of the war in Ukraine, detailing the commitment by Moscow of 103 battalion tactical groups to the ground war, with up to 33,000 Russian military personnel dead, wounded, missing or captured.

In addition, Sanders said that Ukraine’s military is seeing up to 200 casualties per day, with 77,000km2 of its landmass seized by Russia – equivalent to 43% of the total area of the Baltic states. The renewed war has also resulted in around 4,700 civilian deaths, according to Sanders, with eight million civilians now refugees.

Ammunition has also been expended on both sides at a rate unsustainable for most NATO countries, further indicating both the levels of conflict and a lack of strategic depth among some Alliance members.

Dr Jack Watling, senior research fellow in land warfare at RUSI, told delegates at the RUSI conference that, based on figures from the UK’s participation in Exercise Warfighter in 2021, the UK would hypothetically run out of stockpiled ammunition in two days based on current Russian usage, or around two weeks if compared to Ukraine.

Oleksandr Danylyuk, a former adviser to Ukraine’s Minister of Defence, presenting at the conference, said that a lack of Soviet ammunition available in the international market required an “immediate shift to western systems”.

Regarding Ukrainian military casualties, Watling said more of its personnel had been killed or seriously wounded in the four months of fighting from 24 February than there is infantry in the entire British Army. The British Army lists around 25% of its personnel as being infantry, equating to just over 20,000 if based on full time regular figures.

The need for commonality

Watling said that further western support to Ukraine in the coming months would need to see greater rationalisation, centered around “common” gun and ammunition types. NATO members have supplied significant quantities of weapons, vehicles, and other military systems to Kyiv, however many require bespoke training packages and nation-specific ammunition.

According to the US Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), in the case of artillery, the US has sent 128 M777 155mm howitzers to Ukraine, including 36,000 rounds of 105mm ammunition in the latest series of security aid packages.

The CSIS report described the delivery of such a quantity of 105mm ammunition was ”unusual” given that the majority of artillery systems provided to Ukraine to date ”have been the larger 155mm calibre, which has become the NATO standard for nearly all units”.

France is another to have provided a 155mm artillery system to Kyiv, with its CAESAR howitzers. The UK and New Zealand are outliers in their provision of 105mm artillery platforms, with the bulk of the ammunition provided by Washington, CSIS states in its 27 June analysis.

More at https://www.army-technology.com/analysis/ukraine-russia-war-first-four
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Sere

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Saturday, July 2, 2022 7:18 PM

The leader of Wagner Group, Dmitry Utkin, literally has the Nazi SS symbol tattooed on him. This guy was sent to denazify Ukraine. You literally cannot make it up. Putin reportedly sending mercenaries from the Wagner Group - named after Hitler's favourite composer - to #Ukraine on a mission to kill its Jewish president and "deNazify" the country.

https://meaww.com/wagner-group-ukraine-zelenskyy-russia-putin-hitmen-a
ssasins-truth


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, July 2, 2022 8:32 PM

Nobody cares.

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Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He was never the one pulling those strings. He simply took advantage of that fact.



And you know that how?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The ONLY reason Joe* is in office right now is that TPTB decided to go nuclear and destroy the world economy with a fake pandemic to try to fix that mistake.

Dumbus in unum, dumbus in omnibus



They decided to destroy the world economy... which would destroy their wealth and power... by getting all the hospitals and governments around the globe to unite... and fake a pandemic. I mean... probably nothing dumber posted on this forum ever.

Thanks for the laugh.

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Saturday, July 2, 2022 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
In the end, neither Kiev nor the collective west have enough military or economic power to stop Russia. Anything else is delusional.



Ziggy is drooling on her keyboard again. Murdering "Ukies" makes her so happy.

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