In the garden, and RAIN!!!!
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UPDATED: Thursday, December 25, 2025 04:27
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I'm okay Jack and the computer and modem seem to have settled down. But I will be keeping an eye on them just for safety's sake.
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Quote:just as an aside... you might want to have a light plugged into that second circuit. That way, if the light circuit breaker pops, you'll still have light in the garage to be able to find your way around. Most rooms, if wired properly, are serviced by at least two different circuit breakers so they will never be entirely without electricity if a circuit breaker blows.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fantastic day in the garage.
There was no way I was going to do all of this in one day, but I worked until 10PM and made the most of it.
Before I built those shelves, I bent and ran pipe through the walls and put four boxes in and also ran wire through, but never did any more than that at the time. I also bent and ran the pipe through the back wall to put two boxes there. Today, all of that was connected to the main. It all comes in the garage with 12gauge wire, and it's on two separate 20 Amp circuits. All of the lights and the overhead door opener are on one circuit. All of the outlets are on the other circuit.
On the side wall and the back wall I now have 20 outlets. Obviously even with a 20 Amp circuit if I ran a bunch of stuff on all of them at once it would blow the circuit, but that's not the point. I want to be able to plug in stuff anywhere I want to without any hassle.
I also repurposed one of my two switches by the service door. One controlled the lights over my main work bench on the side wall opposite of the new outlets, and the other one controlled four outlets below the switch box. Now those four outlets are powered all of the time, and the second switch controls the overhead lights.
I've only installed two of the four I will be installing, but they are BRIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!
It was a good day.
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6IXSTRINGJACK:
You don't have A/C? Is it getting hotter than usual for you up there? I don't remember you having an issue like this last summer.
BRENDA: No I don't have AC and that would be great for the computer and such but would make me too cold.
Keeping the curtains closed last summer seemed to work but this year. I don't know what is happening. I've got the fan on the modem and that seems to have snapped the computer back into shape.
It was either yesterday or Thursday that I couldn't get the tower to shut off and that was when I brought out the fans for everything. That got the tower and stuff to snap back. So I am at it again today.
The wiring overloading is what set off the smoke detector a couple of months ago
Oh dear! This is where I came to a screeching halt.
You had a wiring overload that actually caused smoke and set off a smoke detector??? That's some serious shit bc that could start a fire and burn the building down!
The circuit breaker should have shut the current off to prevent that! Was it the wires in the wall that overheated, or an electric/electronic device that overheated?
AFA your modem and monitor... modems that seriously overheated should be replaced. Many monitors have ventilation slots and internal fans. Vacuum the slots out if they're clogged.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:just as an aside... you might want to have a light plugged into that second circuit. That way, if the light circuit breaker pops, you'll still have light in the garage to be able to find your way around. Most rooms, if wired properly, are serviced by at least two different circuit breakers so they will never be entirely without electricity if a circuit breaker blows.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fantastic day in the garage.
There was no way I was going to do all of this in one day, but I worked until 10PM and made the most of it.
Before I built those shelves, I bent and ran pipe through the walls and put four boxes in and also ran wire through, but never did any more than that at the time. I also bent and ran the pipe through the back wall to put two boxes there. Today, all of that was connected to the main. It all comes in the garage with 12gauge wire, and it's on two separate 20 Amp circuits. All of the lights and the overhead door opener are on one circuit. All of the outlets are on the other circuit.
On the side wall and the back wall I now have 20 outlets. Obviously even with a 20 Amp circuit if I ran a bunch of stuff on all of them at once it would blow the circuit, but that's not the point. I want to be able to plug in stuff anywhere I want to without any hassle.
I also repurposed one of my two switches by the service door. One controlled the lights over my main work bench on the side wall opposite of the new outlets, and the other one controlled four outlets below the switch box. Now those four outlets are powered all of the time, and the second switch controls the overhead lights.
I've only installed two of the four I will be installing, but they are BRIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!
It was a good day.
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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
Well, aside from the garage door opener, there won't be much load on that 20AMP circuit with all of the lights because new LED tech is awesome and I can keep the entire garage lit up for less than half the wattage my dusty old 2-lamp halogen work lights used to put out. They're 60 watt 4-panel bulbs that put out 5,000 lumens each. 30,000 LUMENS BABY! So to use all 6 at one time would be 40 watts less than one of those halogen bulbs used to cost to run. (I'm really thinking about getting rid of that thing now that I have cordless LED alternatives that are ALMOST as good as it was)
Even if I had all 6 of those lights on (360 watts), my garage door opener running (600 peak watts), and the four not-very bright halogen bulbs over my work bench that I'm going to replace soon (360 watts), that would still be only 1320 watts which is safely 400+ watts under what a 15 AMP circuit can handle, and this circuit is 20 amps.
The bigger concern would be the fact that I have all of my outlets prone to a heavy load all on a the other circuit, but I'd have to be running about 3 of them in tandem to overload the circuit so I'm not worried about that. I've only got two hands.
In fact, just because it's easier, I will probably add the external outlet at the front of the garage to the first light breaker, which would make it the only thing that would take on a bigger load other than the garage door opener. It's most likely only going to be used for power washing the driveway. But since the average power usage of a power washer is 1,500 watts, I'm going to want to make sure I don't have all the lights on in my garage and I'm opening the garage door while I'm using it.
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:
6IXSTRINGJACK:
You don't have A/C? Is it getting hotter than usual for you up there? I don't remember you having an issue like this last summer.
BRENDA: No I don't have AC and that would be great for the computer and such but would make me too cold.
Keeping the curtains closed last summer seemed to work but this year. I don't know what is happening. I've got the fan on the modem and that seems to have snapped the computer back into shape.
It was either yesterday or Thursday that I couldn't get the tower to shut off and that was when I brought out the fans for everything. That got the tower and stuff to snap back. So I am at it again today.
The wiring overloading is what set off the smoke detector a couple of months ago
Oh dear! This is where I came to a screeching halt.
You had a wiring overload that actually caused smoke and set off a smoke detector??? That's some serious shit bc that could start a fire and burn the building down!
The circuit breaker should have shut the current off to prevent that! Was it the wires in the wall that overheated, or an electric/electronic device that overheated?
AFA your modem and monitor... modems that seriously overheated should be replaced. Many monitors have ventilation slots and internal fans. Vacuum the slots out if they're clogged.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
I'm not sure that is just a guess. It could have been something simple as the battery dying in the smoke detector and instead of replacing it they just turned the device off.
I dust everything and as I told Jack. Everything seems to have settled down but I am watching it all carefully.
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Quote:You might want to ask the bldg manager just to make sure that it's nothing important.
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:
6IXSTRINGJACK:
You don't have A/C? Is it getting hotter than usual for you up there? I don't remember you having an issue like this last summer.
BRENDA: No I don't have AC and that would be great for the computer and such but would make me too cold.
Keeping the curtains closed last summer seemed to work but this year. I don't know what is happening. I've got the fan on the modem and that seems to have snapped the computer back into shape.
It was either yesterday or Thursday that I couldn't get the tower to shut off and that was when I brought out the fans for everything. That got the tower and stuff to snap back. So I am at it again today.
The wiring overloading is what set off the smoke detector a couple of months ago
Oh dear! This is where I came to a screeching halt.
You had a wiring overload that actually caused smoke and set off a smoke detector??? That's some serious shit bc that could start a fire and burn the building down!
The circuit breaker should have shut the current off to prevent that! Was it the wires in the wall that overheated, or an electric/electronic device that overheated?
AFA your modem and monitor... modems that seriously overheated should be replaced. Many monitors have ventilation slots and internal fans. Vacuum the slots out if they're clogged.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
I'm not sure that is just a guess. It could have been something simple as the battery dying in the smoke detector and instead of replacing it they just turned the device off.
I dust everything and as I told Jack. Everything seems to have settled down but I am watching it all carefully.
I can't imagine that they would be allowed, by law, to shut off a smoke detector in an apartment so I imagine it was something else. Just, yanno, as a point of nosiness.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:You might want to ask the bldg manager just to make sure that it's nothing important.
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:
6IXSTRINGJACK:
You don't have A/C? Is it getting hotter than usual for you up there? I don't remember you having an issue like this last summer.
BRENDA: No I don't have AC and that would be great for the computer and such but would make me too cold.
Keeping the curtains closed last summer seemed to work but this year. I don't know what is happening. I've got the fan on the modem and that seems to have snapped the computer back into shape.
It was either yesterday or Thursday that I couldn't get the tower to shut off and that was when I brought out the fans for everything. That got the tower and stuff to snap back. So I am at it again today.
The wiring overloading is what set off the smoke detector a couple of months ago
Oh dear! This is where I came to a screeching halt.
You had a wiring overload that actually caused smoke and set off a smoke detector??? That's some serious shit bc that could start a fire and burn the building down!
The circuit breaker should have shut the current off to prevent that! Was it the wires in the wall that overheated, or an electric/electronic device that overheated?
AFA your modem and monitor... modems that seriously overheated should be replaced. Many monitors have ventilation slots and internal fans. Vacuum the slots out if they're clogged.
-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
I'm not sure that is just a guess. It could have been something simple as the battery dying in the smoke detector and instead of replacing it they just turned the device off.
I dust everything and as I told Jack. Everything seems to have settled down but I am watching it all carefully.
I can't imagine that they would be allowed, by law, to shut off a smoke detector in an apartment so I imagine it was something else. Just, yanno, as a point of nosiness.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
You have a point.
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Gotta find some canned air on my travels for all the electronics I got around here.
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I'v helped hubby take apart all kinds of PCs but I've never seen him take a monitor apart. My guess is it's not recommended. You can vacuum out the vents, but the canned air IMHO only works if you can get at a processor heat sink, which is a finned affair with a fan on top of it. Dust usually collects between the fins and can be blasted out with compressed air. Here is a typical PC heat sink and fan
But AFAIK those components, while reasonably accessible in a desktop PC, are buried inside monitors and laptops and can't be easily accessed. Maybe SIX has better info.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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I've never taken a monitor apart unless it was already dead, and just out of curiosity.
I've taken laptops and All-In-Ones apart though. I've replaced two broken fans in AIOs and switched out hard drives in two AIOs and a few laptops. If you want to open one up for any reason, I'd get the model number and do a search on YouTube. I've always been able to find a video on how to open any model I've tried opening before. It's useful because even though a lot of the screws are easy to spot, you're always going to have one or two that are cleverly hidden out of sight that will ruin your day.
It's not really something I would recommend anybody do though. There is a reason that the companies make these things so hard to crack open, and why any warranties that are on them are voided if you do it. I'd consider it a last resort thing where you're ready to throw it out, because there is probably a good chance that you will end up throwing it out after opening it.
Brenda isn't a smoker though, and she seems to be a lot more meticulous about dusting than I usually am.
I'm just a little confused at her situation because I've had computers loaded with nicotine and dust over the years that didn't have overheating problems unless it reached the mid 80's, at which point I would have to open the case and point a small fan directly in there to keep it going.
My current computer doesn't even have the correct CPU fan on it. The old fan was beyond repair and I ended up snatching one from an old mother board before my house dehoard, putting it on with thermal paste and only screwing it down in one corner because it was too large for the newer CPU mounting brackets. It's still been working like 2 or 3 years after that, but it probably shouldn't be. 
I've had monitors fail, but it was never a slow burn. It was an immediate thing where it just worked one day and the next day it wouldn't even turn on. I've never had a modem fail on me.
On top of all of these other conditions, it was in rooms that could get so hot that most human beings wouldn't find the conditions acceptable.
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