Firefly a ripoff of Andromeda?

POSTED BY: Swatter
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SWATTER

Saturday, June 1, 2002 8:48 PM

You're proabbly right. Which saddens me. I was hoping for something original, not another copy.

SWATTER

Saturday, June 1, 2002 8:51 PM

I have confidence that Joss can write..I just wished the show had a better cast. I love Torres but the rest...

HAKEN

Sunday, June 2, 2002 12:13 AM

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Only Andromeda was written first by Gene Rodenberry.

The Andromeda you see today with its various characters like Beka, Tyr, Trance, etc. is purely a creation of Robert Hewitt Wolfe, which came after Farscape.

NOVAGRASS

Sunday, June 2, 2002 1:01 AM

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I have confidence that Joss can write..I just wished the show had a better cast. I love Torres but the rest...

Have you even seen the rest of them in a role with any integrity? Well, I for one have see Alan Tudyk (Wash) in a play in New York and he was *amazing*, and he was great in 28 Days as well.

Nathan Fillion has won a daytime emmy, and I liked him in "Two Guys and a Girl."

Jewel Staite... well... she really hasn't been in anything where I've enjoyed her character, so I'm taking a risk with her.

The guy that plays Simon was good in the remake of Brian's Song... but I can't say the same for the entire production. (why remake a classic?)

I'm just wondering how you can make a judgement yet? I don't like that at all.

--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--

"Blood just kept pouring out of them, you'd slip in it half the time, find out bloodbath is not just a figure of speech."
-Zoe; Firefly, "Serenity" Shooting Script.

SWATTER

Sunday, June 2, 2002 8:16 PM

Did that play win any awards? Did his performance wow the reviewers? No? How shocking!

Nathan Fillion is probably the worst of the bunch. I saw his pitful performance in Two guys, girl and a piazza place. Lol..even Susan Lucci won that award! That's such a pity award. They give that award out as a prize whe you get in the door.

The Original Brian's Song was so much better. Simon was passble and that was considered his best performance.

Like I said. Gina Torres. She the "it" girl on the show.

I'm banking on her to carry the show for an eppy or two. Then it will be a quick slide to tv oblivion.

I'm making my judgements on their performances and casting choices. I've seen the original script and it stunk. They say the second one's supposed to be better but I doubt it very much.

SWATTER

Sunday, June 2, 2002 8:17 PM

So, Joss should pay the Farscape people? Good idea. They can do with some more money for FX. Love the show.

NOVAGRASS

Sunday, June 2, 2002 9:03 PM

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Did that play win any awards? Did his performance wow the reviewers? No? How shocking!

Actually... reviewers were very impressed with him...

Epic Proportions Review: http://www.curtainup.com/epicproportions.html

Wonder of the World review: This is not so much a play as a scrapbook of funny snapshots, but there is sprightly staging by Christopher Ashley, and a canny cast that also includes Bill Raymond, Kevin Chamberlin, Amy Sedaris, the delectable Alan Tudyk, and the incomparable Marylouise Burke
http://www.nymag.com/page.cfm?page_id=5355

Hearts in Atlantis review: A special mention has to go out to Alan Tudyk (the redheaded friend from 'A Knight's Tale'). His small scene is one of the best, and it's great to see this guy getting more roles. http://www.chud.com/reviews/hearts.php3

(I'll add more as I find it...)

He did indeed win an award... he received the Clarence Derwent and Drama League Award for best New York debut in 1997.

If he hadn't recieved any critical praise, it doesn't really mean anything. i know several people, one of whom can easilly be contacted on the animeondvd.com forums, that have followed Alan Tudyk's stage career with intense fervor. So, even if the critics didn't find something to like (which they did, as proven above) the audience did, as there are many loyal Alan Tudyk fans out there.

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Nathan Fillion is probably the worst of the bunch. I saw his pitful performance in Two guys, girl and a piazza place. Lol..even Susan Lucci won that award! That's such a pity award. They give that award out as a prize whe you get in the door.

So, Susan Lucci won the "Best Younger Male Lead" at the Daytime Emmys? Man... she *is* a versatile actress.

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The Original Brian's Song was so much better. Simon was passble and that was considered his best performance.

See also: first recognized performance

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Like I said. Gina Torres. She the "it" girl on the show.

I'm banking on her to carry the show for an eppy or two. Then it will be a quick slide to tv oblivion.

Well... through all of your errors in syntax... I take it you like Gina Torres? Watch the show for her, if you like her so much.

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I'm making my judgements on their performances

right... I can trust the irrationality of your previous posts to show your taste in acting... which I simply disagree with.

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and casting choices.

well... umm... for lack of a better word... duh?

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I've seen the original script and it stunk.

right... And James Cameron is my uncle

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They say the second one's supposed to be better but I doubt it very much.

Why do you doubt it?

--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--

"Blood just kept pouring out of them, you'd slip in it half the time, find out bloodbath is not just a figure of speech."
-Zoe; Firefly, "Serenity" Shooting Script.

MOJOECA

Monday, June 3, 2002 6:33 AM

There is a distinct difference between Andromeda and Firefly. The premise of Andromeda is that Dylan Hunt is trying to reunite the planets. On Firefly, Mal fought *against* unification, a war that has already been lost. Resistance now a lost cause, he and his crew roam the periphery of this new "Alliance." So the premise of Firefly is closer to Farscape, but not really...

--- Joe

KAMLEY

Monday, June 3, 2002 11:45 AM

Another big difference that Firefly has from Andromeda and Farscape is that neither Dylan Hunt or John Crighton were involved with the circumstances that led to the dark age that their shows are in. Dylan was frozen in time before he started working a crew of money-grubbers-suddenly-turned-moral and Crighton is the fish-out-of-water on the show that was helping the escaped prisoners -after they had already escaped- until he could figure out how to get home and not get killed.

(yes, I know there's more to the shows than that, but I'm speaking in terms of the "gist" set up in the beginning)

Mal was fighting the horrible fight the whole time, witnessing horrible acts (I'm basing this on Zoe's speech in the script) while the side of the war he was fighting for lost horribly. He already knows some characters on the show before the first episode and has at least one really well developed relationship with Zoe if not with another character too.

And since this is supposively going to be a character/emotion driven series, this little difference means the word of difference.

-Kamley

A lifetime of things to say, all rushing to be said at the same time doesn't bode well for my voice.

SWATTER

Monday, June 3, 2002 10:36 PM

Lol...is that the site? Sorry, but I thought you had a review from the NY times or something real. Not some cheap site from someone in Flushing NY put up in their spare time.

Gina is the only reason I'd watch the new pilot.

I doubt it cause the Advertisers weren't even impressed with the new Firefly rewrite. I can have a small..small...small...glimmer of hope that it will somehow be good but I don't want to be dissapointed by another Enterprise. Check out Hollywood reporter or Varitey.

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