Why is Russia losing so much military equipment?
POSTED BY: captaincrunch
UPDATED: Sunday, July 26, 2026 23:24
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Quote:The whole topic appears to be a fact-free zone.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Jeez.
There needs to be a FACTS thread on Russia Invading Ukraine.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:I meant, like, a thread to collect confirmed or verified accounts of info.
Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:The whole topic appears to be a fact-free zone.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Jeez.
There needs to be a FACTS thread on Russia Invading Ukraine.
I'm not so sure that every news outlet in the world is sending their correspondents to falsify news reports. OTOH, some reports may be baloney or exxageration.
Or are you suggesting Russia has not invaded Ukraine? I had thought even Russia had admitted that much .
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Quote:Let's pop your bubble, Signym. You have distorted the meaning of the William Blake poem and even the meaning of the words like "reliable", "evidence", and "demonstrate".
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Nobody has demonstrated that Russians are losing "so much" military equipment.
How about finding a reliable figure to start?
Unless you do that, all you're doing is blowing bubbles.
Right, SECOND?
*****
Oh, and along with your bubbles about Russia and Trump, let me pop your bubble about the poem:Quote:this is in his original handwriting
You interpret the poem however you like, SECOND. Blake crossed off the alternate "If there was nobody poor"Quote:
to emphasize that impoverishing people is something we do on purpose. More here:
https://www.paper-darts.com/pity-would-be-no-more/
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Commentary on William Blake's poem, so often misused by Signym as her signature:
This poem asserts that the traditional Christian virtues of mercy and pity presuppose a world of poverty and human suffering; so, too, do the virtues represent a kind of passive and resigned sympathy that registers no obligation to alleviate suffering or create a more just world. The speaker therefore refuses to think of them as ideals, reasoning that in an ideal world of universal happiness and genuine love there would be no need of them. The poem begins as a methodical critique of the touchstone virtues that were so praised in “The Divine Image.” Proceeding through Pity, Mercy, and Peace, the poem then arrives at the phrase “selfish loves.” These clearly differ from Love as an innocent abstraction, and the poem takes a turn here to explore the growth, both insidious and organic, of a system of values based on fear, hypocrisy, repression, and stagnation.
The description of the tree in the second part of the poem shows how intellectualized values like Mercy, Pity, Peace, and Love become the breeding-ground for Cruelty. The speaker depicts Cruelty as a conniving and knowing person; in planting a tree, he also lays a trap. His tree flourishes on fear and weeping; Humility is its root, Mystery its foliage; but this growth is not natural; it does not reflect upon the natural state of man. Rather, the tree is associated with Deceit, and its branches harbor the raven, the symbol of death. By the end of the poem we realize that the above description has been a glimpse into the human mind, the mental experience. Thus the poem comments on the way abstract reasoning undermines a more natural system of values. The result is a grotesque semblance of the organic, a tree that grows nowhere in nature but lies sequestered secretly in the human brain.
https://www.sparknotes.com/poetry/blake/section8/
Signym, since you don't even understand your own misquote of William Blake, which you used 10,000 times, why think you understand the Ukraine War?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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In your infinite condescension, SECOND, you assume I don't understand the poem.
Pity, like charity, is not a virtue, it's virtue-signalling expression of superiority. It grows from another vice, selfishness.
Vice begets vice, not virtue. In a truly virtuous world, pity, "peace" and (selfish) love wouldn't exist.
It is deceit (or worse, self-deception) that allows the incestuous relationship of false virtue (what we would now call virtue-signalling) to prop up continuation of vices.
You, of all people, should understand virtue-signalling masking evil. But your self-deception won't allow it.
Why do you keep failing at mind-reading?
But WHAT does this have to do with "Russia losing so much military equipment"?
Well, it doesn't.
It's irrelevant.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:Russians weren't good enough in WWII, which is why 3 Russians died for every German. Russians weren't good enough after the war was over, and kept killing German-speaking civilians. Russians just aren't good enough, which is why they lose their equipment.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
In your infinite condescension, SECOND, you assume I don't understand the poem.
Pity, like charity, is not a virtue, it's virtue-signalling expression of superiority. It grows from another vice, selfishness.
Vice begets vice, not virtue. In a truly virtuous world, pity, "peace" and (selfish) love wouldn't exist.
It is deceit (or worse, self-deception) that allows the incestuous relationship of false virtue (what we would now call virtue-signalling) to prop up continuation of vices.
You, of all people, should understand virtue-signalling masking evil. But your self-deception won't allow it.
Why do you keep failing at mind-reading?
But WHAT does this have to do with "Russia losing so much military equipment"?
Well, it doesn't.
It's irrelevant, like you.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
In the Ukraine war, Russia doesn't have Americans and Brits fighting Ukrainians on the Western front, so Russia won't be receiving new equipment from Americans and Brits to replace what the Russians lose. Too bad for Russia.
Maybe this weekend it is once again time for the Russians to compensate for incompetence by threatening to nuke everybody. Yes, that is what Russians are doing this weekend: https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+nuke
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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'The T-90 Russian tank was usually touted as invincible, but often in #Ukraine? seems to be turned into a pile of rusting metal.'
https://twitter.com/CalDisasters/status/1526328290729832448
The 59th Ukrainian MotorisedBrigade bombarded Russians tank and surface-to-air missile
https://gettr.com/post/p1ab3wz5bf5
Ukrainian Soldiers Use American M224 Mortar
https://funker530.com/video/ukrainian-soldiers-use-american-m224-morta
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'Russia's most famous tank, the T-90M, has rusted away but as an exhibit it attracts huge numbers of tourists'
https://twitter.com/intermarium24/status/1527368185913425921
Russia reportedly loses most advanced tank during fighting in Ukraine
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Tin3BCs2uvBQ/
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Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
The whole topic appears to be a fact-free zone.
I keep giving you the opportunity to correct what many consider FACTUAL, but you keep running away. It's more of a Signym-free zone than anything else.
The following are what many sources - outside of the combatants directly involved and their biases - consider to be observably true. I've numbered them for your convenience. Please consider the number keeps growing.
Which ones do you consider false and why?
1. - Putin misjudged how his invasion would only unite "Ukies" and motivate them to fight back and embarras the Russian *army.
2. - Putin couldn't take Kyiv in 7 days despite his (anemic, train wreck) of a bull rush to do so. If it was a feint it was the most costly, dumbest feint in military history. In fact, ANY attempt to explain it as a "plan" makes it look even worse. "He meant to do that??"
3. - Russian military used insecure communications - "Hello, Dimitri? I am sitting here with the Z 48 battalion waiting for you... I am at the following coordinates..." boom.
4. - Putin keeps losing generals.
5. - Putin has united the West and the EU and NATO.
6. - Putin completely misjudged Finland and Sweden. Both are applying to join NATO, Putin's nightmare.
7. - Putin's own "G7" he has only one ally, Belarus, who have yet to join the fight. No ally really.
8. - Putin completely misjudged how many companies would leave Russia. ANY attempt to say that it was a plan makes it look even worse.
9. - Russian army failed to use proper logistics. 40 mile traffic jam/ cluster-fck.
10. - Russia loses their Prized ship to a country without a nvy.
11. - Putin has motivated many of the most educated Russians to leave the country - brain drain just like Stalin.
12. - Putin has caused long term damage to Russia's economy
13. - Putin has caused long term damage to Russia's world standing.
14. - Putin miscalculated how many young Russian soldiers would die.
15. - Russia failed to take out Ukraine air defense system.
16. - Putin has motivated some of Russia's largest oil and gas customers to find alternative suppliers, and - maybe most significantly - to accelerate their alternative energy programs (thanks Putin!).
17. - Putin is even losing the spin war. Except of course with his own state run tv brain washed and threatened citizens who face jail time for speaking the Truth.
18. - Putin misjudges just how much Russia is hated around the globe.
19. - Russian army failed to prepare their troops for what their real "operation" was.
If this reality/evidence of Putin's major fck up is wrong as you suggest, then it should be easy for you to show how they're wrong... right?
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Quote:I guess we can nail that coffin shut about me "not understanding" the poem that I quote, eh, SECOND? I trust you won't bring it up again bc it only demonstrates that, while I understand you, you don't understand me.
SIGNYM:
In your infinite condescension, SECOND, you assume I don't understand the poem.
Pity, like charity, is not a virtue, it's virtue-signalling expression of superiority. It grows from another vice, selfishness.
Vice begets vice, not virtue. In a truly virtuous world, pity, "peace" and (selfish) love wouldn't exist.
It is deceit (or worse, self-deception) that allows the incestuous relationship of false virtue (what we would now call virtue-signalling) to prop up continuation of vices.
You, of all people, should understand virtue-signalling masking evil. But your self-deception won't allow it.
Why do you keep failing at mind-reading?
But WHAT does this have to do with "Russia losing so much military equipment"?
Well, it doesn't.
It's irrelevant, like you.
SECOND: Russians weren't good enough in WWII, which is why 3 Russians died for every German. Russians weren't good enough after the war was over, and kept killing German-speaking civilians. Russians just aren't good enough, which is why they lose their equipment.
In the Ukraine war, Russia doesn't have Americans and Brits fighting Ukrainians on the Western front, so Russia won't be receiving new equipment from Americans and Brits to replace what the Russians lose. Too bad for Russia.
Maybe this weekend it is once again time for the Russians to compensate for incompetence by threatening to nuke everybody. Yes, that is what Russians are doing this weekend: https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+nuke
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:How many tanks, personnel carriers, howitzers, and other armored vehicles did the Russians lose? What percent of committed equipment does that represent?
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
The whole topic appears to be a fact-free zone.
I keep giving you the opportunity to correct what many consider FACTUAL, but you keep running away. It's more of a Signym-free zone than anything else.
The following are what many sources - outside of the combatants directly involved and their biases - consider to be observably true. I've numbered them for your convenience. Please consider the number keeps growing.
Which ones do you consider false and why?
1. - Putin misjudged how his invasion would only unite "Ukies" and motivate them to fight back and embarras the Russian *army.
2. - Putin couldn't take Kyiv in 7 days despite his (anemic, train wreck) of a bull rush to do so. If it was a feint it was the most costly, dumbest feint in military history. In fact, ANY attempt to explain it as a "plan" makes it look even worse. "He meant to do that??"
3. - Russian military used insecure communications - "Hello, Dimitri? I am sitting here with the Z 48 battalion waiting for you... I am at the following coordinates..." boom.
4. - Putin keeps losing generals.
5. - Putin has united the West and the EU and NATO.
6. - Putin completely misjudged Finland and Sweden. Both are applying to join NATO, Putin's nightmare.
7. - Putin's own "G7" he has only one ally, Belarus, who have yet to join the fight. No ally really.
8. - Putin completely misjudged how many companies would leave Russia. ANY attempt to say that it was a plan makes it look even worse.
9. - Russian army failed to use proper logistics. 40 mile traffic jam/ cluster-fck.
10. - Russia loses their Prized ship to a country without a nvy.
11. - Putin has motivated many of the most educated Russians to leave the country - brain drain just like Stalin.
12. - Putin has caused long term damage to Russia's economy
13. - Putin has caused long term damage to Russia's world standing.
14. - Putin miscalculated how many young Russian soldiers would die.
15. - Russia failed to take out Ukraine air defense system.
16. - Putin has motivated some of Russia's largest oil and gas customers to find alternative suppliers, and - maybe most significantly - to accelerate their alternative energy programs (thanks Putin!).
17. - Putin is even losing the spin war. Except of course with his own state run tv brain washed and threatened citizens who face jail time for speaking the Truth.
18. - Putin misjudges just how much Russia is hated around the globe.
19. - Russian army failed to prepare their troops for what their real "operation" was.
If this reality/evidence of Putin's major fck up is wrong as you suggest, then it should be easy for you to show how they're wrong... right?
Also, for comparison, how much similar equipment has Ukraine lost? What percent of committed equipment does THAT represent?
How does that compare to similar land wars? (I guess the closest comparison would be WWII).
Can we get reliable numbers? Bc you have not established the FACTS, you have only posted statements.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:That data is NOT available for any war that has ever been fought. Prove me wrong, Signym, by finding a URL that you trust that provides for whichever war you pick the same information as what you want on Ukraine.
Originally posted by SignyM:
How many tanks, personnel carriers, howitzers, and other armored vehicles did the Russians lose? What percent of committed equipment does that represent?
Also, for comparison, how much similar equipment has Ukraine lost? What percent of committed equipment does THAT represent?
How does that compare to similar land wars? (I guess the closest comparison would be WWII).
Can we get reliable numbers? Bc you have not established the FACTS, you have only posted statements.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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