Book Is A Monastic Warrior

POSTED BY: BrowncoatMonk
UPDATED: Saturday, January 25, 2003 21:09
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BROWNCOATMONK

Saturday, January 18, 2003 4:07 PM

I mean the Church works for the Church, and also hopefully for the spiritual salvation (if not the physical salvation) of its followers (or all men, depends on how embracing they are). This is not a given--think of the medieval Catholic Church (well really into the late 1800's even).

I said what I said, because people are relegating the idea of an organized Church to a mere bureau of the Alliance, placed between the Department of Reconciliation with Secessionist Planets and the Department of Reaver Diplomatic Relations.

Is the concept of a strong organized religious body too out of line here?

Browncoat Monk

Ain't no place I can be since I found Serenity...

BROWNCOATMONK

Saturday, January 18, 2003 4:09 PM

But contraception can fail which would lead to the possibility of being a grandpa. A good point though.

Browncoat Monk

Ain't no place I can be since I found Serenity...

SELNYC

Saturday, January 18, 2003 6:47 PM

Quote:
SergeantX wrote:
Saturday, January 18, 2003 01:57
Yeah, I don't get why everyone is saying 'life-long'. All I got from OIS is that he never has sex now. But not as in he's never had it. I'll watch it again. hmmmm

OK, second reply to Sarge's query, only now I've relistened (and transcribed) the scene with Jayne & Book:

JAYNE:
So like, never?

BOOK:
Well, no.

JAYNE:
Not ever, never?

BOOK:
Some orders allow Shepherds to marry, But I follow a narrower path.

JAYNE:
But you still got the urge...they don't...cut it off or nothin'...

BOOK:
No. I'm more or less intact. I just directed my energy elsewhere.

JAYNE:
Like masturbatin'?

BOOK:
I hope you're not thinking of taking orders yourself?

JAYNE:
Heh! Yeah, that'll be the day.
(A beat, then)
I got stupid. The money was too good.

BOOK:
I don't give half a hump if you're innocent or not. So where does that put you?

So, what does this scene tell us? Are they talking about marriage, and then sex, two separate topics? Does Jayne's question imply that there's a Mrs. Cobb floating around out there (maybe literally)?

If they're talking about marriage, then Book is NOT a life-long virgin as I and others have presumed. And if that's the case, if we're just talking about his sexual habits at the abbey, well, then my original theory about Book's past starts looking pretty good...

It was the best day ever.

CARDIE

Saturday, January 18, 2003 8:19 PM

The above conversation seems to deal only with the sexual practices of those who have taken orders as a Shepherd, leaving their sexual experience prior to taking orders out of the equation. I do find "more or less intact" quite intriguing. Does Book mean that he was circumcised? That he suffered an injury to his private parts?

I hope there's some way to find out his secret!

Cardie

SELNYC

Saturday, January 18, 2003 8:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cardie:
I do find "more or less intact" quite intriguing. Does Book mean that he was circumcised? That he suffered an injury to his private parts?

I hope there's some way to find out his secret!

Cardie

I'm thinking circumcision, common enough practice in various religions...or nothing different at all. I think our Mr. Book has been more than a little coy with us all.

GREYBARD

Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:08 AM

Of course, there's one extremely simple possible answer to any of these question.

Book might be lying.

Now, I'm not saying that he is. The church millitant idea is cool and possible, and I like it. Just like I like the Alliance spy or ex-Alliance General theories.

But everything we know of Book's past is hearsay, and comes from Book. So really, nothing is for sure except that which we see on screen. Thus opening us to even wider speculation!

SENSOU

Saturday, January 25, 2003 9:09 PM

We do know things about Book's past which do not come from him, and they strongly support either "reformed-military personnel" or "big fat liar."
Personally, I think in his past he had a position somewhat like Patience's or Niska's. That would explain his knowledge of crime and how Early knew him.
On the other hand, he could be a mole that is looking for anti-Alliance sentiments to prevent another war.

Sensou
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