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THG
Tuesday, March 8, 2022 7:17 PM


Someone here thinks that because I said TWO is always on the righteous side of an issue, I always agree with his solution to dealing with those on the wrong side of the issue. It does not.

A simple example. Being nice to others is the right side of an issue. Killing those who are not is not an acceptable solution in making sure everyone is. Holy shit, figure it out dummy.


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Tuesday, March 8, 2022 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by THG:

Someone here thinks that because I said TWO is always on the righteous side of an issue, I always agree with his solution to dealing with those on the wrong side of the issue. I do not.
A simple example. Being nice to others is the right side of an issue. Killing those who are not is not an acceptable solution in making sure everyone is. Holy shit, figure it out dummy.


T



Perhaps I should not have watched the movie Dredd (2012) twice.

Is it okay for a Ukrainian to murder Putin rather than hope for him to change his mind and sign a peace treaty? Before making the moral choice about what you'd do, the one that makes you feel good about yourself, you might want to read the List of assassination attempts on Adolf Hitler. The first one was in 1932, but each failed because the assassins were seeking high praise, a long life for themselves, and maybe a movie or a lucrative book deal rather than concentrating on the task in front of them -- killing a supervillain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_
Hitler


Ukraine doesn't have moral qualms about killing Russian generals. I suspect there are Ukrainians who don't have too many about firing a RPG into Putin's office and killing him in cold blood. That coldness wouldn't get praised in most corners of the world. Most would want Putin captured humanely and moved to The Hague for a war crimes trial, which would take many years to conclude, much like Slobodan Milosevic's. Fantasy thinking such as that is why Hitler ruled for decades, as will Putin.

Russian Officer Complains About Dead General and Comms Meltdown in Intercepted Call

Ukraine says it intercepted a call between two FSB officers discussing the death of a top general and the failure of its encrypted comms system.

The Ukrainian defence ministry has released audio from a call which it claims captured two Russian officers lamenting the death of a top general and the collapse of its secure communications network in Ukraine.

In the call—which has been verified by Bellingcat, the fact-checking group known for exposing Kremlin misinformation—two purported Russian FSB officers are heard discussing the death of a general killed in fighting near Kharkiv, which has been hammered by shelling this month.

Ukraine’s defence ministry named the general as Vitaly Gerasimov, chief of staff of the 41st Army, and Bellingcat reported that it had confirmed the death with Russian sources. In its statement, Ukraine’s defense intelligence agency said Gerasimov had been “liquidated” alongside “a number of senior Russian army officers” in fighting near Kharkiv.

If Gerasimov’s death is confirmed, he would be the second Russian general to be killed in Ukraine within a week following the death of the 41st Army’s deputy commander, Andrei Sukhovetsky. A pro-Putin Chechnyan general, Magomed Tushayev, was also reported to have been killed.

Russia’s failure to protect its top-ranking officers backs up reports from Ukraine that the Kremlin’s invasion force is in disarray.

More at https://www.thedailybeast.com/fsb-officer-caught-lamenting-death-of-vi
taly-gerasimov-in-intercepted-call


Judge Dredd Finally Gets On The Wrong End Of A Gun



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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THG
Wednesday, March 9, 2022 12:43 AM


I'll have to watch it again second.

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THG
Wednesday, March 9, 2022 1:04 AM


Polish jets headed to Ukraine

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THG
Wednesday, March 9, 2022 2:06 AM

Russian Officer Complains About Dead General and Comms Meltdown in Intercepted Call

The Ukrainian defence ministry has a released audio from a call which it claims captured two Russian officers lamenting the death of a top general and the collapse of its secure communications network in Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-officer-complains-about-d
ead-general-and-comms-meltdown-in-intercepted-call/ar-AAULYvs?ocid=msedgntp




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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 2:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Someone here thinks that because I said TWO is always on the righteous side of an issue, I always agree with his solution to dealing with those on the wrong side of the issue. It does not.

A simple example. Being nice to others is the right side of an issue. Killing those who are not is not an acceptable solution in making sure everyone is. Holy shit, figure it out dummy.



It's always about the company you keep, Ted.

Second's sockpuppet went around telling everyone to kill themselves and how to do it in graphic detail, but you were fine with that.

You are a piece of shit. Everyone you associate with is a piece of shit.

And you sure as hell are rarely ever on the right side of any issue.

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 8:40 AM

I was certain someone would write the editorial making the connection I see. Randal Balmer did:

My Turn: Putin, the bear, and the book of Revelation
By RANDALL BALMER, For the Monitor

Published: 3/6/2022 8:00:46 AM

Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has made the book of Revelation relevant once again.

The final book of the New Testament, with its apocalyptic visions of multi-headed dragons, plagues, vials of judgment, the Whore of Babylon and the Battle of Armageddon has confounded readers for millennia. Written most likely at the end of the first century by a man known as John the Elder on the island of Patmos, Revelation is presented in the form of a dream.

Generations of believers have puzzled over its meaning, and the general sense is that it was included in the canon of scripture as a source of comfort for early Christians who were undergoing persecution at the hands of Roman authorities, an assurance that God would eventually avenge their sufferings.

That, however, has not stopped many believers in the ensuing centuries from teasing out nuances of meaning from these recondite passages. Evangelicals in particular, who purport to interpret the Bible literally (although they typically engage in selective literalism), have been especially eager to collate biblical passages with current events.

The establishment of the state of Israel in 1948, for example, was understood by evangelicals as a direct fulfillment of biblical prophecies, and a necessary precondition for the rebuilding of the Jewish temple. Evangelicals are forever speculating about the identity of the Antichrist, a charismatic figure and false messiah who leads people astray from the truth. The Antichrist is mentioned in Revelation and is associated with the number 666, the Mark of the Beast.

Beginning with the Protestant Reformation in the sixteenth century, Protestants have frequently designated the pope as Antichrist, but other candidates have surfaced as well in evangelical demonology. John F. Kennedy was a popular target in the 1960s, and more recent speculation has surfaced around Ronald Wilson Reagan (six letters in each of his three names) or Bill Gates (someone with too much time on his hands has declared that if you assign numbers to the ASCII characters in his name you come up with 666).

For a while, Mikhail Gorbachev was a popular candidate, especially with the birthmark on his forehead, thought to be the Mark of the Beast. Back in 1988, I interviewed a nuclear engineer who had written an entire book about Gorbachev, claiming that if you assigned numbers to the letters in Gorbachev’s name, using the Cyrillic alphabet, it tallies 666. The odds against Gorbachev being the Antichrist, he assured me, were 710 quadrillion to one.

I grew up in this world. I listened to countless sermons warning that the “end times” were near and the world was about to collapse in apocalyptic judgment. I remember very clearly my mother summoning me from a neighborhood baseball game in June 1967 and admonishing me to get ready for the return of Jesus because of the Six Day War then unfolding in the Middle East.

My father, like many evangelicals of his generation, was what is called in theological circles a premillennialist, which means that he expected Jesus to return to earth at any moment, gather the faithful and unleash judgment against those who were “left behind.”

In fact, the popular series of books and films by that name was inspired by a 1972 movie called A Thief in the Night, which in turn was based on my father’s Sunday evening sermons on the book of Revelation. The writer and director of that film, which Time magazine called a church-basement classic, was my Sunday school teacher, and my father played the “good” preacher in the movie.

The beauty of premillennialism is its protean nature; it can be adapted endlessly to explain current events. I remember hearing during my childhood, for instance, that the reference in Revelation to a bear was certainly a designation for Russia, but that interpretation fell out of favor

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 2:28 PM

The Only Russian Official Angrier Than Putin at How Things Are Going in Ukraine

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was blunt from the start about his lack of expectations for these talks. Choosing Vladimir Medinsky to lead this delegation was a clear signal that Putin is not serious about reaching a negotiated peace. But sending Medinsky also sends an additional, very specific message: that Putin is doubling down on his inaccurate historical justification for this war, a narrative that claims Ukraine has no right to exist within its internationally recognized borders.

Who is this Medinsky?

Medinsky has advertised his casual relationship with the truth as a feature, not a liability, of his historiographical approach. One telling example is his response to the controversy over the historical inaccuracy of the 2016 blockbuster film Panfilov’s 28 Men. The Soviet government knew by 1948 that the story of 28 soldiers defending Moscow from dozens of German tanks in World War II did not, as they put it, “correspond to reality.” But the tale remains a popular narrative in Russia to this day. In 2015, Medinsky lambasted the head of the Russian State Archive for declassifying and publishing documents online that confirmed the story had indeed been exaggerated for propaganda purposes. Medinsky insists that Panfilov’s 28 Men, which his ministry helped to fund, should be applauded for its perpetuation of that mythicized episode, in which Soviet Gen. Ivan Panfilov and his 28 men died only after (supposedly) taking 18 tanks with them. “My fundamental conviction,” Medinsky said, “is that even if this story is completely made up from beginning to end, even if there was no Panfilov, even if there was nothing—this is a sacred legend that you just can’t touch. And anyone who does is wretched scum.”

The day after making that statement, Medinsky published an article in the state press defending the Panfilov myth’s historical accuracy. The Kremlin chimed in as well, with Putin’s press secretary lauding Medinsky for using “strong words to defend historical truth.” To cap off the episode, the film was awarded a prize for being “faithful to historical truth”—by Medinsky’s own Russian Military Historical Society.

Since the annexation of Crimea in 2014, the Russian government has become only more persistent in its quest to establish a specific historical truth highly favorable to Russian nationalism.

Russia has no more appropriate ambassador for gross distortion of history than Vladimir Medinsky. The fact that he is lead negotiator is itself an aggressive sign of escalation.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/03/who-is-vladimir-medinsky-n
egotiator-russia-ukraine.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 2:59 PM

March is an officially difficult month for Russian rulers. Stalin died on March 5th, Alexander II was murdered on March 13th, Nicholas II abdicated on March 15th, Ivan the Terrible died on March 18th, Paul I got strangled on March 24th. Putin respects traditions...

https://twitter.com/anders_aslund/status/1500105843420848133

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022 5:30 PM

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March is an officially difficult month for Russian rulers. Stalin died on March 5th, Alexander II was murdered on March 13th, Nicholas II abdicated on March 15th, Ivan the Terrible died on March 18th, Paul I got strangled on March 24th. Putin respects traditions...

https://twitter.com/anders_aslund/status/1500105843420848133

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



You people love it when anybody you disagree with dies.

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