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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:58 PM

He should find out where Justin Trudeau was hiding for weeks.

One of the safest places on the planet.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by second:
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.



I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 2:14 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.

Less symbolism and more materialism, if the EU was not pouring HUGE quantities of money into Russia, Putin wouldn't feel invulnerable.

Putin believes the EU will keep buying his Russian brand of fuel. If Putin's belief is correct, he can invade Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and only expect more symbolism from the EU. The EU is gonna have to decide whether to either say goodbye to the Baltic States or goodbye to Russian fuel. If Putin is right and the EU will not cut back on fuel purchases than the EU can only fight him with more symbolism, and more words, and more refugees from Ukraine. I'm absolutely sure Putin will be pleased to send the EU many more refugees who don't speak Russian as their first language.

Russia’s economy is highly dependent on exports of commodities with revenues from sales of crude oil, petroleum products, and natural gas accounting for about a half of Russia’s federal budget. Russia’s main exports are: fuels and energy products (63 percent of total shipments) . . .

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/exports

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 5:05 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. . . .

News from Feb 25, 2022 -- Question marks surround the U.S.-licensed Haas team, which has connections to Russia through its title sponsor Uralkali and driver Nikita Mazepin, a Russian-born driver who joined Haas in 2021. Mazepin’s father Dmitry, who controls the Uralkali firm that specializes in potash fertilizer, is a close confidant of Putin. Mazepin, 22, drove the car on Friday morning but did so in an all-white livery after its red and blue, which drew comparisons to the Russian flag, was removed.
https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a39222996/haas-f1-team-sudde
nly-headache-russian-connections
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I'm sure Putin doesn't care if some Russian kid drives, or doesn't. If a million Russian drivers couldn't race, it still wouldn't make Putin even blink at leaving Ukraine.

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THG
Saturday, February 26, 2022 9:38 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.



I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.





They've sanctioned Putin directly now which is unheard of. It makes the statement that they are done politically with him. That he is illegit. That's huge, and they are close to shutting down any commutations between Russia and any financial institutions outside of Russia. Again, that's huge.

Putin annexed both Crimea and Georgia and it was a cake walk. Neither of them nor the world fought back. He could not have seen this shit coming.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:24 AM

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 6:03 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.


Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.

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THG
Saturday, February 26, 2022 7:13 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.


Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.






I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke. Reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock


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Saturday, February 26, 2022 8:00 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

You're such a drama queen, 6ix. 6ix probably doesn't understand SWIFT. What is it?

The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) was founded in 1973 to replace the telex and is now used by over 11,000 financial institutions to send secure messages and payment orders. With no globally accepted alternative, it is essential plumbing for global finance.

Removing Russia from SWIFT would make it much harder for financial institutions to send money in or out of the country, delivering a sudden shock to Russian companies and their foreign customers — especially buyers of oil and gas exports denominated in US dollars.

What happens if Russia is removed from SWIFT?

There is precedent for removing a country from SWIFT.

SWIFT unplugged Iranian banks in 2012 after they were sanctioned by the European Union over the country’s nuclear program. Iran lost almost half of its oil export revenue and 30% of foreign trade following the disconnection, according to Shagina.

Senior Russian lawmakers have said that shipments of oil, gas and metals to Europe would stop.

“If Russia is disconnected from SWIFT, then we will not receive foreign currency, but buyers, European countries in the first place, will not receive our goods — oil, gas, metals and other important components,” Nikolai Zhuravlev, vice speaker of Russia’s upper house of parliament, said last week, according to state media outlet TASS.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/business/swift-russia-putin

6ix, without SWIFT, Europe and Russian trade would switch to bartering rather than payments in money. But the bartering could be cut off by closing railroads and pipelines from Russia, which takes more physical effort than disconnecting Russia from SWIFT.

Russia has taken steps in recent years to blunt the trauma should it be removed from SWIFT.

Moscow established its own payment system, SPFS, after it was hit by Western sanctions in 2014 following its annexation of Crimea. SPFS now has around 400 users, according to Russia’s central bank. Twenty percent of domestic transfers are currently done through SPFS, according to Shagina, but the size of messages are limited and operations are limited to weekday hours.

China’s fledgling Cross-Border Interbank Payment System, or CIPS, may provide another alternative to SWIFT. Moscow could also be forced to resort to using cryptocurrencies.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 8:12 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock




Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.

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