Finally, a temporary home for my Fan Vid, come get it.

POSTED BY: ImEarly
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 04:03
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IMEARLY

Monday, January 24, 2005 8:38 PM

About time I'd say.

Alright, so a hand reached from the dark and volunteered to host Serenity for me.
Thank you Embassy, he also has two fine videos on his site.

Here you go...

http://homepage.mac.com/rocketplane

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

GORRAMREAVERS

Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:24 AM

Wow..I enjoyed Serenity alot. It must take some time to make these and this Firefly/music lover appreciate's the work you put in.

I'd love to see a fanvid with Eric Clapton's Runnin on Faith. Maybe some Stevie Ray Vaughn...somethin' with a southern bluesy feel (slow or fast). Wish I had the know how.

"..it is my very favorite gun."

ZAPHODB

Tuesday, January 25, 2005 1:07 AM

I have two vids done to Stevie Ray Vaughan tunes.

Industrial Looniee & Madness - http://www3.telus.net/vchrusch

GWENHARKER

Tuesday, January 25, 2005 1:53 AM

Nice Video, it had that ethnic yet rock feel to it which I think really suited Firefly.

Two criticsms are:
1.) I think some of the shots should've been cut faster and the bits of still frame during the song replaced with action sequence. The song is slower paced, but the drums in it provide that outlet for a faster paced edit job.

2.) Try mix the shots up a little. In the begining was alot of Out of Gas footage for example, which started to lead me to believe that you only had a couple of vids to work with, or were trying really hard to conserve shots. I think it should've been mixed up a little more just to broaden it.

All in all, it was still a nice video, the best quality and sound I've seen so far and it helped make up for some of the things I didn't like.

Now if I could get my hands on Adobe Premire, or steal Avid Xpress from school, I think I'll be good :)

IMEARLY

Tuesday, January 25, 2005 2:02 AM

If you're serious about making videos, I can help you with just about everything you need. To be honest this was one of the least time consuming videos I've ever made, I wanted to keep this one simple because the point of it all is to honor Firefly and not myself. E-mail me at Pangaea_Films@Verizon.net and I'll get you started with Movie Maker. However if you have Adobe Premiere 6.5, I'll show you how we professional posers do it.

That applies to anyone who reads this post.

(Especially ZAPHODB)

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

IMEARLY

Tuesday, January 25, 2005 2:13 AM

Quote:

Two criticsms are:
1.) I think some of the shots should've been cut faster and the bits of still frame during the song replaced with action sequence. The song is slower paced, but the drums in it provide that outlet for a faster paced edit job.

2.) Try mix the shots up a little. In the begining was alot of Out of Gas footage for example, which started to lead me to believe that you only had a couple of vids to work with, or were trying really hard to conserve shots. I think it should've been mixed up a little more just to broaden it.

Read my post above, if you're interested in Fanvids, I can write a kicking tutorial, maybe I'll get started on that for future.

Okay now for your constructive criticisms...

1.) I chose Serenity because it stimulates the love of our favorite boat, not our favorite action sequences, action is easy. I tell tales.

2.) Once again, this was a story telling motif. The still shots that turned into video were in an essence memory come to life. What made the captain what he is?

The Battle of Serenity...

What is the name of our favorite boat?

I sincerely appreciate your kindness, and compliments.
I do hope this gives you a little more understanding of my process.

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

JAYSEDAI

Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:00 AM

I love many of these fan vids, thanks to all that spend the time creating them, I applaud people's energy and creativity.

While we are on the subject of "how to's"... The one thing I've noticed that most people don't take advantage of is the ability to reverse the telecine and work at the same frame rate as the original footage was shot at; 24 frame per second (fps) progressive video, aka 24p.

You'll notice that many fan vids have kind of a herky jerkyness to the motion. This is because they are being edited at 30fps rather than the original 24, so artificial frames are being created where there isn't actually any temporal data. Whenever I edit movie or TV show footage, I inverse telecine the footage first. Depending on how the DVD was encoded and the software you use to rip the DVD you can sometimes extract it at it's original 24fps. Then you need to edit in a program that works at a native 24 fps. Since I'm a Mac user I would recommend either Final Cut Pro or Adobe After Effects (I'm 95% sure Vegas Video and Adobe Premiere for Windows support 24p editing). This will help smooth out the motion.

Again I'm not trying to criticize, I'm just providing info to help future editors. Maybe someday if I can find the time I'll create and post a tutorial.

GWENHARKER

Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:11 AM

I completely understand what you're saying and I get that. I personally prefer faster paced jobs, again, only my opinion. I'm in the middle of editing a documentry for my tech class, so I suppose I'm just extra antsy for faster paced jobs.

I've been making fanvids for about two years now on my Windows movie maker (since I just don't have the money nor computer capicity to upgrage) so I'm always looking at other people's techniques.

IMEARLY

Tuesday, January 25, 2005 4:03 AM

Quote:

While we are on the subject of "how to's"... The one thing I've noticed that most people don't take advantage of is the ability to reverse the telecine and work at the same frame rate as the original footage was shot at; 24 frame per second (fps) progressive video, aka 24p.

Well, well, educated folk. Glad to meet ya.

Here we go...

Technically the Firefly DVD's are 100% film which makes it's footage 23.976fps. If you are using Vegas video this is not a problem... if you are using Adobe Premiere (Like I am) however, it is a big problem as Premiere cannot easily edit 23.976fps. It can edit in 23.98fps but this mode has all sorts of synch issues and the final output is useless to everyone.
You can change it to 24fps and Premiere can edit 24fps fine so it's not all bad - it just requires a little more preparation in advance. Personally I prefer to edit at 29.97fps and I use AviSynch for my video and color conversions/corrections.

The video you watched is a bastardized version of the one I keep on my computer which boasts 92MB. It retains the original quality, fps as well as its 16:9 Aspect ratio.

The version that has been uploaded was resized in WMM2.

Duly note, this video only took me three days to make, perhaps I should have taken more time, but I was anxious for results.

One last thing...

AE is designed for producing motion graphics and for applying effects to existing footage (hence the name After Effects). AE is not a video editing utility like Adobe Premiere. As such, it doesn't replace your current video editing program, but rather it compliments it. While video editing software like Premiere is used for cutting up and joining clips together, AE is designed to take footage and add whatever your imagination can come up with.

and...

I know absolutely nothing about Final Cut Pro.

And I didn't take your post as a criticism, thanks for the info.

So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.

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