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Sunday, January 30, 2022 10:46 PM

Glad to see there's some morons out there keeping CNN alive.

Fine job, Ted.

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Monday, January 31, 2022 4:39 PM

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Germany is SO unconvinced, it just sent 5000 helmets(!) to Ukraine as part of the "defense effort". I can't decide if that crosses the line into "insult" territory, or not.

Russia threatened to turnoff Germany's natural gas supply is what it means.

After the Russian annexation of Crimea in 2014, in the intervening years, Putin’s aggression has “made Ukraine much more self-conscious; he’s pushed it to the West,” Jensen told Vox. “Even if he conquered the country, this would not stop.”

Although Ukraine’s post-Soviet democratic project has been flawed, recent events evince a desire among the Ukrainian people to continue building a stable, functional democracy that cooperates with the West — a desire that’s not just incompatible with Putin’s mythologizing of the ties between Russia and Ukraine, but potentially a threat to Putin’s own hold on power. A fully independent, democratic Ukraine could well signal to Russians that the Putin model isn’t their only option, and that popular uprisings can produce meaningful change.

“I think for [Putin] it’s quite important to prove that no, this democracy is not really genuine, that it’s the West that wants to impose it on the Ukrainians,” Ukrainian journalist Nataliya Gumenyuk told the New Yorker last week. “To admit that societies can do it themselves is to admit that change could be possible in Belarus, in Georgia, and in Russia as well.”

But while Ukraine has made a concerted effort — particularly since the election of President Volodymyr Zelensky in 2019 — to engage with the US and Western institutions, it’s not clear that the West is reciprocating, Snegovaya told Vox.

“Major Western countries visibly lack unity on this issue,” she said. “Germany’s behavior is particularly unacceptable — it has been blocking Estonia’s weapons supplies to Ukraine.”

Last week, Germany refused to allow Estonia to sell German-made weapons to Ukraine under a so-called third-party agreement, frustrating NATO allies and German politicians alike. Germany has been loath to upset its relationship with Russia over the contentious Nord Stream 2 pipeline, making it more cautious than the US, for example, which is allowing Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania to sell US-made weapons to Ukraine.


Going forward, Snegovaya told Vox, there’s little doubt that Putin will take advantage of the West’s uneven stance on Ukraine to paint a favorable narrative in Russia — similar to how he’s used a misleading narrative about the historical relationship between Russia and Ukraine. “Instead of a message of strength, the alliance communicates a message of weakness,” Snegovaya said, “and Putin, as an experienced, opportunistic player, unquestionably sees that.”

More at https://www.vox.com/2022/1/30/22908600/ukraine-crisis-putin-russia-one
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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THG
Monday, January 31, 2022 5:35 PM

Survivors Say Russian Mercenaries Slaughtered 70 Civilians in Gold Mine Massacre

ABUJA, Nigeria—Prince Ngoma was just about to depart a mining site in Central African Republic’s (CAR) eastern village of Aïgbado when heavily armed Russian mercenaries in a pickup truck drove in, opened fire, and burned down the houses in the area.

“They didn’t speak a word to anyone, only their guns did the talking,” said Ngoma, who was only there to meet a friend. “I saw people screaming and falling on the ground. It was only by luck that I survived.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/survivors-say-russian-mercenaries
-slaughtered-70-civilians-in-gold-mine-massacre/ar-AATjNrA?ocid=msedgntp




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Monday, January 31, 2022 7:54 PM

Luck, huh?

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THG
Monday, January 31, 2022 8:51 PM

Why Germany is so vulnerable to Russian blackmail

The first hundred days are proving to be particularly unforgiving for Germany's first government of the post-Merkel era.

Roughly half of Germany's natural gas imports come from Russia.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/opinion-why-germany-is-so-vulnera
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THG
Monday, January 31, 2022 8:53 PM

Qatar’s emir visits White House, as Biden may need help with natural gas for Europe

Qatar’s emir, Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, will meet with President Biden at the White House on Monday, as the administration seeks help in shoring up natural gas supplies to Europe in the event the crisis over Ukraine escalates to war and Russia cuts its flow to the continent.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/qatar-s-emir-visits-white-house-a
s-biden-may-need-help-with-natural-gas-for-europe/ar-AATjOSD?ocid=msedgntp




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Tuesday, February 1, 2022 12:10 AM

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The first hundred days are proving to be particularly unforgiving for Germany's first government of the post-Merkel era.



As opposed to the ruination of the country that happened under Merkel's watch.

You're such a tool, Ted.

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Tuesday, February 1, 2022 12:30 PM

Hmmm.. apparently some ppl here don't know their geography, and haven't a clue how fuel supplies work.

Russia is right next to Europe, and pipeline gas will ALWAYS be cheaper than LNG, which requires huge compressors, special ships, and re-expansion terminals.

How do you suppose Qatar is going to get gas to Europe, in quantity, at a reasonable cost, hmmm?

I can't think of how.

Biden* is fucking delusional if he thinks that the ME can make up for natgas piped in from nearby, without driving costs thru the stratosphere.

But then, he's* delusional if he thinks that Russia has the slightest interest in invading Ukraine, absent a hostile act from the west.

This whole drumbeat smells of SADDAM! WMD! MUSHROOM CLOUD! TERRORISTS! when Colin Powell stooped to making a complete ass of himself at the UN by shaking a little vial of laundry detergent powder and showing grainy uninterpretable photos.

And we all know how that turned out.

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THG
Tuesday, February 1, 2022 7:05 PM

Ukraine Russia crisis: Kremlin says there was a 'mix-up' in its response to US

The Kremlin said Tuesday that there had been a "mix-up" over its reply to the United States on the Ukraine crisis, as diplomatic efforts to deter a Russian invasion picked up pace.

State Department officials confirmed Monday they had "received a written followup from Russia" to a document of proposals the US sent to the Kremlin last week on how to defuse tensions and pave the way for further security talks in response to Russia's demands on security .

On Tuesday, however, the Kremlin said that Russia had not yet sent its "main reply" to the US. "There was a mix-up," Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said in a conference call. "It [the Russian correspondence] regarded a different matter. The main reply on this issue hasn't been handed over, it's still being prepared."



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Thursday, February 3, 2022 7:21 AM

Putin Says He Deserves Ukraine as Consolation for Losing White House

Offering the diplomatic community a new rationale for his recent actions, Vladimir Putin said that he deserves Ukraine as consolation for losing the White House in 2020.

“Losing control of the most powerful nation on earth was a bitter pill for me to swallow, to say the least,” the Russian President said. “Giving me Ukraine would make things somewhat better.”

“It’s only fair,” he continued.

At the White House, President Biden called Putin’s logic “unacceptable,” but added, “At least he admits he lost.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/putin-says-he-deserves
-ukraine-as-consolation-for-losing-white-house


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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