Carter Burwell's been fired from "Serenity"

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UPDATED: Sunday, January 30, 2005 14:30
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MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Sunday, January 23, 2005 9:52 PM

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
Well, this must be one of those positive sides from the delay, however good the new composer is, I don't know if they'd produce much in just a few months.

Actually, they still have plenty of time - so I wouldn't be too concerned on that front. I doubt we'll get a "big name" (wouldn't want Williams phoning in a riff on ET/Superman/Star Wars anyway) - besides they all are falling into patterns at the moment (can people stop hiring Elfman for superhero films and force him to stretch himself?).

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THESOMNAMBULIST

Sunday, January 23, 2005 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by Misguided By Voices:
(can people stop hiring Elfman for superhero films and force him to stretch himself?).

Y'know I used to think the same thing and then I heard the theme to Desperate Housewives and this is exactly what Danny Elfman has done i.e. Stretch himself. It's a superb T.V. theme.

Actually now I think of it what about Mark Snow? X-Files was a brilliant TV theme, does anyone know if he's gone on to do film Scores?

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MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Sunday, January 23, 2005 10:03 PM

Well, its as good a reason as any to get all my soundtrack CDs out again.

I'm guessing that they won't have too much of a Western tinge to the soundtrack, having toned down the Western format (at least it sounds that way).

Mark Isham is one composer I like a lot - and Graeme Revell seems to be doing some interesting stuff in an overly familiar genre.

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MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Sunday, January 23, 2005 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by Forrestwolf:
I know nothing about composing/movie scores and such, but this concept of the score reflecting the various scenes sounds a LOT like the show to me - little riffs at various key moments that really make you think "FIREFLY."

I can't decide whether Burwell is making an implied criticism with the comment (one would presume suggesting that its a "TV" way to do things) or simply saying, as Joss has, that the two working methods didn't hit this time.

The film (and TV score) should compliment each other, not work against, and so clearly if the director and composer don't gell, you would end up with the music undercutting what was on scene.

Joss is no doubt used to having had that on his TV shows - but I'm sure it wasn't there from the start. I recall JMS commenting on B5 and Franke in a similar vein - there were some problems with the music in early season one, but come the later years, he could simply write something like "break my heart" and leave Franke to do it.

That presumably is why so many movie directors, having found a composer, return again and again - but it must be tough unless you get lucky to go right off the bat.

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MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Sunday, January 23, 2005 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Actually now I think of it what about Mark Snow? X-Files was a brilliant TV theme, does anyone know if he's gone on to do film Scores?

I know he's on Smallville now (which sounds far too often like his X-Files work). His work fit X-Files perfectly. I can't recall the episode, but there was a scene with an empty swimming pool, and this fantastic score over it - looking on imdb, he is mainly TV and video games, which I guess goes to prove how difficult it is to parlay TV writing to film music, even with one of the number one shows in the US under your belt.

Checking with past Whedon composers, Beck is the only one with a sizeable career (I now may have to see Elektra to see what his score is like, or I could just wait for the soundtrack CD). That said, the admirably named Thomas Wanker has some co-composer and additional score credits on AvP and Day After Tomorrow (which may not be the best CV...)

Just listening to Hans Zimmer's Thin Red Line score - which stretches him fantastically; similar with James Newton Howard's Unbreakable score (in fact, those sad, mythic themes might fit Serenity) - that perhaps is the key. Give the person the product and time, so they don't have to (understandably) re-work old cues.

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MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Sunday, January 23, 2005 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by Quicksand:

Personally, I just watched "The Core" on cable... awful movie, but the score was pretty good. Christopher Young was the guy's name

Knew I had one of his scores - Hard Rain, another awful movie. The Main Title is rather generic, and something of a borrow from Elfman's opening Batman music (a homage shall we say) and the rest is a bit too generic for my liking.

Then again, I love Franke's B5 score, and he stole whole chunks of his own Universal Soldier score!

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ECGORDON

Monday, January 24, 2005 12:23 AM

Greg Edmonson has posted at the OB, in response to someone's inquiry of the possibility of him getting the job now:

http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages/?msg=20978.23

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

PUMAMANREDUX

Monday, January 24, 2005 12:24 AM

yknow who might be an interestin' choice for a composer ... Brian Tyler ( http://imdb.com/name/nm0003911/)

He composed the music for Bubba Ho-Tep ( http://imdb.com/title/tt0281686/), Six String Samurai, is currently involved with Constantine ...

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EMBASSY

Monday, January 24, 2005 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
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Well, my vote is to give a shot to TV composers Edmonson or Kral or Carl Johnson (Disney's cartoon Gargoyles, Piglet's Big Movie). They are all DAMN good, and I listen to tons and tons of film music. Otherwise, I'd love to see what Brian Tyler (Children of Dune, Timeline) or Klaus Badelt (Time Machine, K-19) could do with Serenity.

I'll second a vote for Carl Johnson. His Disney stuff is fantastic. Oh, and he lives a block away from me, too. But anyone who pays attention to the music from Gargoyles has to be impressed, it seems to me. A great suggestion!

EMBASSY

Monday, January 24, 2005 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

Y'know I used to think the same thing and then I heard the theme to Desperate Housewives and this is exactly what Danny Elfman has done i.e. Stretch himself. It's a superb T.V. theme.

....and remarkably similar to his theme from "The Simpsons." Stretch? Not so much.

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