Some Covid-19 thoughts
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A Texas cardiologist recently made a claim about the risk of myocarditis in teens from the COVID-19 vaccine, citing a study that health experts raised doubts about in September. He also floated a debunked claim that 45,000 Americans have died from the vaccine.
Dr. Peter McCullough made the claims in an appearance on the "DarkHorse Podcast; an article about his appearance, from the website Conservative Fighters, carried the headline: "Top cardiologist: Study shows COVID vaccines are more dangerous than covid itself."
"The most shocking thing in the Hoag analysis was that a child ages 12-17 is more likely to be hospitalized with myocarditis than taking your chances with COVID and ever getting hospitalized with COVID," McCullough claimed.
The claim is not accurate.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/23/peter-mccollough/ben
efits-covid-19-vaccines-far-outweigh-risks-teen/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Jesse Kelly @JesseKellyDC
To clarify:
When I take power, communists will not be allowed to hold jobs. Their children won’t be allowed in schools. They won’t be allowed in bars or restaurants. And that’s just the standard communists.
People who’ve been pushing covid tyranny will be sent to work camps.
4:13 PM · Dec 21, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/jessekellydc/status/1473416336667820032
Who is Jesse Kelly?
https://www.jessekellyshow.com/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Every policy should have a risk/ benefit studies attached to it. You need to calculate - as accurately as possible, with error bars attached - the benefits per capita, and the risks per capita.
So for COVID-19 vaccines, one would need to calculate the benefits per capita, divided by age groups if needed; and the risks per capita, divided by age groups if needed.
What protection does the vaccine give against death, hospitalization, severe disease, long term (or permanent) disability, mild illness, infection, transmission, and so on. And what side effects per capita does vaccination create in terms of death, hospitalization, severe disease, long term (or permanent) disability, mild illness, infection, transmission, and so on.
And obviously the same calculations need to be made for no-vaccinations.
Now once you have you per capita figures, you can start calculating numbers in your population. You can run different figures based on how many people you think will become infected with and without vaccination.
That will give you population figures for the benefits and risks of vaccination versus the benefits and risks of no vaccination.
I GUARANTEE THESE STUDIES - EVEN IF ONLY PRELIMINARY - HAVE BEEN DONE.
But for all the stories I've scanned through, I have never seen links to those studies for the pediatric (younger than 18) population.
How many children will be infected in which age range? How many will die or suffer permanent or serious damage from infection? How many children will be protected through vaccination? How will overall population transmission be affected by vaccinating younger age groups? And, how many younger people will suffer death or permanent damage or serious side effects from vaccination?
I've read - for example - that the risks of pediatric COVID-19 are far worse than the risks of vaccination. Where's the study(ies) to back that up? I've also read that the risk of vaccine myocarditis is very low, and that it's virtually completely mild and self-limiting. Where are the links to that information?
Any time I see something being pushed in the media without links to actual - you know - evidence, it makes me wary.
Maybe someone with the time and interest can look up the studies for all POV's about pediatric COVID-19 infections and vaccines. But until I see actual links to actual studies, I'm putting the topic of pediatric vaccination in the 'something smells funny' bin.
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Originally posted by MAGONSDAUGHTER:
So sad ??
What is?
The fact that they're putting your people in concentration camps?
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Originally posted by second:
It's insane how the people buying fake vaccination cards are literally the same people who complain about undocumented immigrants using fake documents.
https://nitter.domain.glass/i/status/1424764914573340672
I would never get a fake vaccination card.
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They’re also starting to warm up to the "my body my choice" argument against vaccines. The insanity is those people are literally the same people who are "it's your body but not your choice" anti-abortion.
Incorrect again. The government has no business making any laws regarding the right to an abortion, other than the father having a say in whether or not the baby is going to be murdered.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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It is NOT the baby-daddy's body, therefore it is NOT his choice, and never should be.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Funny bc hubby and I were just discussing the risks from the vaccine v the risks from Covid_19 in the pediatric and young adult population. My guess is that the vaccine is less risky than the virus itself.. unless you're talking about the Omicron variant, which does seem to be pretty mild.
But even if the risks from vaccination pencil out to be less than the risks from COVID-19 virus itself for the pediatric population does not mean a vaccine mandate is reasonable. Public health efforts only take effect when the risk exceeds a certain threshold... during testimony about a particular toxic facility the public health doctor estimated that threshold to be appx 500 in a million. That would be the risk from contaminated water, or smoking/secondhand smoke, for example. Public health measures are not invoked to protect everyone from every possible risk.
It would be better if TPTB would spit out their best estimates so far: risk of "doing something" v risk of "doing nothing", and - since the vaccine primarily protects the vaccinated, not the surrounding ppl- let those at risk make up their own minds.
Funny thing is, I worked with a young man who developed myocarditis or percarditis (not sure which) -this was long before the pandemic- and the doctors surmised he had caught some virus, apparently a mostly inconsequential one, and developed the "itis" bc of that, so there is a normal incidence anyway, even w/o SARS-Cov2 or the vaccine.
Still looking for that info on WHICH 5 proteins (of the 29 that make up the virus) are pathological to human endothelial tissue. Are they all spike proteins? (I doubt it.) Or are they distributed between the spike, envelope, membrane and nucleocapsid proteins? That would provide a mechanism for estimating the risk from a spike-based vaccine v the risk froma complete viral panoply of proteins.
That info also seems obscured.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Interesting ... I too tangentially worked with someone who developed myocarditis but this was specifically from the 'flu', and he was an older guy - close to my age - generally fit, but a really heavy smoker. I was talking with him when he came back to visit to see how he was doing. It very definitely took the starch out of him, as people say. Plus one of my direct co-worker's mothers got pericarditis, also probably from a virus infection, but hers was recurring. She had to have a 'window' cut into her pericardium after the second time she developed pericardial effusion. What a strange confluence of events. I find all that interesting.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It is NOT the baby-daddy's body, therefore it is NOT his choice, and never should be.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
It's BOTH of their choice.
And if not, then full financial responsibility lies with women.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Quote:Why? Aside from the fact that you feel entitled to hijack a woman's body for 9 months, that is. Give me one cogent reason that doesn't involve entitlement.
SIGNYM:
It is NOT the baby-daddy's body, therefore it is NOT his choice, and never should be.
SIX: It's BOTH of their choice.
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SIX: And if not, then full financial responsibility lies with women.
Realistically, birth control methods do fail. There is ALWAYS a risk of unintentional pregnancy.
This is an asymmetric situation. If the woman decides to have an abortion, the man is off the hook, financially. If she decides to carry to term, there's quite a bit of responsibility attached. So I guess men should have sex accordingly.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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