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January 6th Commission investigating coup attempt.

POSTED BY: THG
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Tuesday, December 21, 2021 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by THG:

Wrong...

T

I am making a prediction: Trump is both guilty as hell and will NOT be punished because Biden's Justice Dept. will fail to do the job. Take Trump to court? Maybe. Successfully punish him? Not gonna happen, despite the crying need that Trump be in jail. Trump didn't pay taxes for 20 years and he won't be paying because the Justice Dept. won't stomp his ass. The Mueller investigation found that Trump obstructed the investigation but the Justice Dept. won't stomp his fat ass on that, either. It is symmetry with Trump saying Lock her up, but his Justice Dept. didn't do a damn thing to Hillary. You can go all the way back to Vice President Aaron Burr murdering Alexander Hamilton and Burr committing treason in New Orleans. The Justice Dept. wasn't worth a damn even way back then and the Dept. hasn't gotten any better at convicting big-shots. Even Nixon escaped prosecution.

Aaron Burr’s trial and the Constitution’s treason clause
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-great-trial-that-tested-the-co
nstitutions-treason-clause


Worse Than Watergate: Nixon’s Greatest Treachery
Even though President Johnson knew full well what was going on, the decision was made to sit on the story. Partly because the Democrats believed they’d win the election anyway, and partly because revealing the truth would have also exposed the wiretapping and surveillance between the rival parties – the blow to the public psyche would have been too much to bear.
https://www.history.co.uk/article/worse-than-watergate-nixon%25E2%2580
%2599s-greatest-treachery


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, December 21, 2021 5:47 AM



Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."



https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us
-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20
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Tuesday, December 21, 2021 6:25 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Exclusive:

Capitol rioter who threw fire extinguisher at police on Jan. 6 gets longest sentence yet - FIVE YEARS! Because Trump didn't personally throw the fire extinguisher, Trump is not gonna get charged, but Trump did tell the rioter to throw a tantrum in the Capitol.

In a letter to the judge, Florida man Robert Palmer, 54, said he felt betrayed by Trump and his allies. “Trump supporters were lied to by those at the time who had great power,” wrote Palmer, who told the judge Friday he was “really, really ashamed of what I did.”

Apparently, Trump cannot be charged with a crime just because Trump organized a rally that the fire extinguisher throwing rioter attended, and Trump told the rioter to 'Stop The Steal', and Trump did not give orders to the National Guard to stop the rioter, and Trump would still be President if the rioter had prevented V.P. Mike Pence from certifying the 2020 election.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2021/12/17/22843349/capitol-attack-j
anuary-6-electoral-college-vote-biden-president-trump-florida-man-5-year-sentence


Timeline of the 2021 United States Capitol attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2021_United_States_Capit
ol_attack#Wednesday,_January_6,_2021


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, December 21, 2021 6:36 AM


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stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs
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baseball bats, chemical sprays, a captured police officer’s riot shield, a crowbar, fire extinguishers and a metal flagpole
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-v
ariety-of-weapons
/
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-arme
d-here-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used


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“How many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on Capitol grounds during that day?” Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson asked Jill Sanborn, the FBI official, during a Senate Homeland Security hearing.
“To my knowledge, we have not recovered any on that day from any other arrests at the scene at this point,” replied Sanborn, who serves as FBI assistant director for counterterrorism.
“I don’t want to speak on behalf of Metro and Capitol police, but, to my knowledge, none,” she added.

htt ps:// www.air.tv/watch?v=AUFjCGm_RgyVaDXmVKG3Hg

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Tuesday, December 21, 2021 6:41 AM


How many coups take place without a plan, without tanks, PRGs, assault rifles, or even handguns? How many coups take place with the equivalent of staves, pitchforks, flambeaux, and cow poop?




Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."



https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us
-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/
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stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs
Quote:

baseball bats, chemical sprays, a captured police officer’s riot shield, a crowbar, fire extinguishers and a metal flagpole
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-v
ariety-of-weapons
/
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-arme
d-here-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used


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“How many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on Capitol grounds during that day?” Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson asked Jill Sanborn, the FBI official, during a Senate Homeland Security hearing.
“To my knowledge, we have not recovered any on that day from any other arrests at the scene at this point,” replied Sanborn, who serves as FBI assistant director for counterterrorism.
“I don’t want to speak on behalf of Metro and Capitol police, but, to my knowledge, none,” she added.

htt ps:// www.air.tv/watch?v=AUFjCGm_RgyVaDXmVKG3Hg

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Tuesday, December 21, 2021 7:14 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

How many coups take place without a plan, without tanks, PRGs, assault rifles, or even handguns? How many coups take place with the equivalent of staves, pitchforks, flambeaux, and cow poop?

What TV show gave you these extravagantly violent ideas of how power is taken? Did you know that only Hitler, as head of state, could dismiss Hitler as head of the government? Hitler used the written rules in 1934 to make himself dictator for life by assigning to himself two government positions: President and Chancellor. The rules did not say the same person can't hold both offices. Then Hitler in one position decided he would never fire Hitler in the other position. It was perfectly legal and non-violent. Trump used the rules to make himself President for Life, except V.P. Mike Pence didn't follow the rules and made Biden the President. Ever since, Trump has complained often and bitterly that Pence betrayed him by not following the rules. If only the rules had allowed Trump to be both President and Vice-President, Trump would still be President.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power#Chancello
r_to_dictator


Trump: Pence has been 'mortally wounded' within GOP



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, December 21, 2021 9:13 AM

Q: What was the difference between Hitler and GWB?
A: Hitler was elected.


This "coup" is puffed-up nonsense, like RUSSIA!RUSSIA! and "quid pro quo".

The fact that you keep whipping this shit into froth is just another example your essential dishonesty.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Tuesday, December 21, 2021 11:22 AM


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What TV show gave you these extravagantly violent ideas of how power is taken?
I'm pretty sure I got my ideas about how violent coups are by watching news stories about coups in other countries.



BTW did you know that Hitler had henchmen and allies in - among other places - the German Secret Police - who murdered his political opponents and potential rivals even before he was a significant blip in the German political radar? That was from some PBS history show I watched. "In Germany, Nazi leader Adolf Hitler orders a bloody purge of his own political party, assassinating hundreds of Nazis whom he believed had the potential to become political enemies in the future ..." (see 'Night of the Long Knives')

Gotta watch out for those wildly inaccurate news stories of violent coups in other countries and bloody history shows about how power is taken.


/snicker

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THG
Tuesday, December 21, 2021 8:37 PM

Snicker...

T



'Donald Trump is increasingly agitated by the House select committee investigating the Capitol attack'





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THG
Tuesday, December 21, 2021 8:45 PM

tick tock

T



Rep. Swalwell: Jan. 6 Committee Is 'Piecing It All Together'





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