January 6th Commission investigating coup attempt.
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Even, I as a Canadian was horrified by what happened that day and couldn't believe what I was seeing.
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You can't seem to answer the question, SECOND.
What did TRUMP do SPECIFICALLY that could be construed as some kind of coup?
Watch TV?
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Brenda, Washington DC has a very long history of brutal riots, going back to the 1800's. Here's a small sampling:
2021 George Floyd (the other 2021 DC riot)
Washington riots: Destruction and looting just metres from the White House | 7NEWS
https://jagvid.com/watch/washington-riots-destruction-and-looting-just
-metres-from-the-white-house-7news_GTupJuwSzpKbNOe.html
2020
WAR ON THE STREETS
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13040959/second-night-of-looting-philade
lphia-police-shoot-black-man/
1969
NATION'S CAPITAL HELD AT MERCY OF THE MOB
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/magazine/1989/07/16/n
ations-capital-held-at-mercy-of-the-mob/89f8f5bc-7e32-43aa-8479-d1213768e769/
1968
The four days in 1968 that reshaped D.C.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/local/dc-riots-1968/
1932: U.S. Army Kicks U.S. Veterans Out of Washington
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/73642/1932-us-army-kicks-us-vetera
ns-out-washington
1919
The Mob Violence of the Red Summer
https://daily.jstor.org/the-mob-violence-of-the-red-summer/
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Quote:Here is the answer, 1kiki. I knew what you would do, and you did it very predictably, and I had the answer ready for you.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You can't seem to answer the question, SECOND.
What did TRUMP do SPECIFICALLY that could be construed as some kind of coup?
Watch TV?
Anatomy of a Takeover
https://www.tgiokdi.com/2021/12/12/anatomy-of-a-take-over/
As of Nov. 3rd the problem Trump had to solve is this: “How do I retain the presidency even though I lost the electoral college?”
Let’s start by reverse engineering the problem…
How do I retain the presidency even though I lost the electoral college?
The only viable path to victory is to force a contingent election whereby congress decides who is the next president. (we’ve already done the math and you have the numbers to win.)
How do I force a contingent election?
At this point the only viable way is to make sure that the conditions required to certify the electoral college are not met.
How do I make sure those conditional requirements are not met?
If you can delay the certification for even 1 day then legally the conditional requirements will not have been met.
How do I delay the certification for even 1 day?
The VP is the lynch pin in to the electoral college process. You have to keep the VP from completing the electoral college certification process on the 6th of January.
How do I keep the VP from completing the electoral college certification process on the 6th of January?
Get the VP to leave the capitol before the electoral college certification is complete.
How do I get the VP to leave the capitol before the electoral college certification is complete?
The VP has to want to leave the capitol.
How do I get the VP to want to leave the capitol?
If his life and the lives of his family were at risk he would want to leave the capitol.
How could his life and his family’s lives be put at risk?
If he and his family were in the capitol building and it came under attack their lives would be at risk.
How could the capitol building come under attack?
A protest could easily get out of hand and become a riot aimed at the capitol building.
How can I make sure there is a protest on the day of the electoral college certification at the capitol?
Announce a rally to be scheduled on January 6th at the capitol and promote it heavily.
But Pence is my VP he’s been 100% loyal to me. Even if there was a riot, why would the people attacking the capitol turn on Pence?
We would have to give the rioters a reason to turn on Pence.
How do we give the rioters a reason to turn on Pence?
Have a very publicized meeting just before Jan 6th and ask Pence to just overturn the electoral college even though the states already certified the results. All while knowing it’s not within Pences constitutional powers and that he will not agree to do it. Then blame him very publicly when he actually doesn’t do it. Blame him while the riot is happening even.
How do we know the protest will have enough time to turn into a riot that will cause the evacuation of Pence before the certification?
We will call friendly Republican senators during the electoral college certification and get them to object as much as possible as to delay the certification as long as possible.
How do we make sure the protest will turn into a riot?
Hold a rally before the protest and really convince the crowd that if the electoral college is successful in certifying the election the country will be destroyed and they will have been cheated out of an election. Tell them it’s time to kick ass and take names. Tell them it’s time for trial by combat. Tell them it’s their last chance to save America.
How do we know the rioters will invade the capitol?
We would need to communicate with protest organizers in the crowd that could lead and incite the rioters.
How would we communicate with both the friendly senators and the protest leaders in the crowd?
We would have people keep in touch with protest
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Aside from the fact that the VP merely presides over the Congressional session that certifies the election and can't intervene, Pence sent his letter to 'certify' (not contest) the election.
Quote:
In a letter sent to Congress, Vice President Mike Pence said once and for all that he does not believe he has the authority to decide “which electoral votes should be counted and which should not.” Pence wrote in the three-page letter that he will certify the election results on Wednesday, officially making President-elect Joe Biden the winner of the November presidential election. “When the Joint Session of Congress convenes today, I will do my duty to see to it that we open the certificates of the Electors of several states, we hear objections raised by Senators and Representatives, and we count the votes of the Electoral College for President and Vice President in a manner consistent with our Constitution, laws, and history. So Help Me God,” Pence wrote.
Quote:
The Electoral College formally selected Biden as the next U.S. President on December 14 when each state’s electors publicly cast their official votes. There is no mechanism for reversing these votes, and on Jan. 6, the House and Senate will meet to count those votes. Under the 12th Amendment, Pence is constitutionally mandated to preside over the joint session of Congress which will accomplish the task. ... Pence has absolutely no authority, constitutional or otherwise, to prevent ratification of the electoral college votes.
Any theory based on Pence is invalid.
OOPS.
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You can't seem to answer the question, SECOND.
What did TRUMP do SPECIFICALLY that could be construed as some kind of coup?
Watch TV?
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Quote:1kiki, you are mistaken. The only viable path to victory for Trump was to force a contingent election whereby Congress decides who is the next president and vice-president. (We’ve already done the math and the Republicans had the numbers to win. During a contingent election in the House, each state's delegation casts one en bloc vote to determine the president, rather than a vote from each representative. Republicans controlled more than 25 states so Trump wins a contingent election. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingent_election )
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Aside from the fact that the VP merely presides over the Congressional session that certifies the election and can't intervene, Pence sent his letter to 'certify' (not contest) the election.Quote:
The Electoral College formally selected Biden as the next U.S. President on December 14 when each state’s electors publicly cast their official votes. There is no mechanism for reversing these votes, and on Jan. 6, the House and Senate will meet to count those votes. Under the 12th Amendment, Pence is constitutionally mandated to preside over the joint session of Congress which will accomplish the task. ... Pence has absolutely no authority, constitutional or otherwise, to prevent ratification of the electoral college votes.
Any theory based on Pence is invalid.
OOPS.
How does Trump force a contingent election?
Trump's only viable way was to make sure that the conditions required to certify the electoral college were not met. If Pence had run from the Capitol, then a contingent election is held, which Trump cannot lose because each state gets only one vote and Republicans control a majority of states.
What Is the Contingent Election and Voting Process?
https://www.findlaw.com/voting/how-u-s--elections-work/what-is-the-con
tingent-election-and-voting-process-.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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There was no attempted coup. There was no insurrection.
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SECOND, if it was an attempted coup, then the National Guard and the DC police were in on it. The protesters weren't even armed. How did the police fail to control them?
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Quote:You are making it crystal clear you have understood nothing and you are absolutely committed to never understanding. Good for you. Trump will hire you to do PR for him.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
SECOND, if it was an attempted coup, then the National Guard and the DC police were in on it. The protesters weren't even armed. How did the police fail to control them?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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