GORRAMIT, SOME OF YOU FOLKS REALLY &*(&^ ME OFF!!!!!

POSTED BY: Static
UPDATED: Monday, January 24, 2005 20:05
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STATIC

Saturday, January 22, 2005 4:28 AM

So. . .

I post a thread and a blog about how Firefly got a really great review from a noteworthy sci-fi author. . .

And some of you manage to turn it into a 'gay-bashing vs. Christian bashing' argument complete with name-calling and crap!!!!!

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE????

Are you SO HELL BENT on crowing about your personal politics and crowing AGAINST other people's personal politics that you feel the need to hijack a perfectly good thread praising a good review of our favorite TV show?

GEEZ!!!!

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HARDWARE

Saturday, January 22, 2005 4:53 AM

I'm with you Static. {sarcasm}People who joined FFF.net after me suck.{/sarcasm}

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

MONTANAGIRL

Saturday, January 22, 2005 4:57 AM

I hear ya. I haven't read any Orson Scott Card, but I do know the name and I thought that it was great that someone with that kind of name recognition in the scifi/fantasy world would single out Firefly. And then. . . Funny how quickly a thread can devolve, isn't it?

You know, ReeQueen started a whole new Faster Loading Politics thread in Real World that is perfect for the "discussion" that is going on on your other thread now.

Packer fans welcome.
All others tolerated.

VETERAN

Saturday, January 22, 2005 5:51 AM

You have my sympathy man. I was just thinking how thoroughly that thread got hijacked.

ANOTHERFIREFLYFAN

Saturday, January 22, 2005 6:08 AM

I thought the review was very cool. I read the Ender series and enjoyed it. I don't know about Card's personal beliefs or politics, but hey, I don't agree with Adam Baldwin's politics either. That doesn't mean I don't respect the man, and enjoy his work. What happened in that thread is uncalled for.

Keep flying

KNIBBLET

Saturday, January 22, 2005 6:11 AM

Static,
Some people never went to kindergarten. You remember that we learn all the biggest lessons in kindergarten.
We learn to share.
We learn to 'do unto others'.
We learn to tie our shoes.
We learn lots of things. Most of all, we learn not to be mean. If you're mean in kindergarten, no one will play fingerpaints with you.
Remember to keep the fingerpaints (and enter key) out of the hands of mean non-kindergarten vets.
Love
a haremite

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

ZEEK

Saturday, January 22, 2005 6:31 AM

Sorry for my part in the hijacking. It's just hard not to jump to the defense of large groups of people being insulted. I actually thought it was a mostly civil discussion. Very little name calling of specific members at least.

MACBAKER

Saturday, January 22, 2005 9:27 AM

Good point. Were here because of our love of a TV show. Not it's creator's politics, or our own. The assumptions that anyone who is against gay marrage, must be a homophobic Jesus freak, or anyone that is for gay marriage must be a liberal sprout eater, is moronic! People that take either side of any issue, obviously think their position is right, and no amount of bashing, preaching, or insults are going to change that.

Christians believe! Period! Muslims believe! Period! Athiests believe! Period! Republicans and Democrats believe, etc., etc., etc.!

I wonder how many of the more liberal or conservative members here, have run off others because they couldn't refrain from bashing everyone that doesn't agree with their own narrow view, and trust me, anytime you take that strong of a position that you stoop to bashing, you are taking a narrow view! This is just my opinion, but I think this is what is wrong with this place. It used to be a fun place, where deversity was respected. Now, not so much, and that's sad.

Like I said before, this is just my opinion, I could be wrong.

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

SIMONWHO

Saturday, January 22, 2005 9:36 AM

Yup, I'm also sorry for my responsibility for the hijacking. I forgot rule number 1 of forums: never post when you're angry. I should have just pointed out my feelings about Orson Scott Card and left it at that.

But I agree, I thought for the most part the thread was fierce about the issues, not the people and the attacks were on viewpoints, not on other members.

Mind you, I'd love to see the debate if President Bush endorsed the movie...

TAUSETIPRIME

Saturday, January 22, 2005 1:02 PM

Ive read much of Orson Scott Card's work (many of the titles, i've read more than once).

I have no clue what the man's politics are, but the man knows all things sci-fi. He knows how to craft a character driven story-line. He can write, and he can recognize the merit of someone else's work.

So, in this arena, I say that O.S.Card's word is down-right noteworthy. Static posted a damn fine article. I see it as a good sign for things to come in all that is Firefly/Serenity.

If, while writing the article, Mr. card was clubbing baby seals, poisoning the environment, and beating up old women with their own walkers......it doesnt diminish his word in the one area the article discussed.

If we cant keep our own heads on the subject before us, then we might as well all become nay-sayers. No one stands up to the microscope for long.

A final point for those who started their posts with "i've never read any of his stuff, but he's (insert negative comment about a non-related issue)." I find it hard to read comments by people who openly admit no knowledge of the topic at hand. Had the article been written about gay marriage, or someone else's opinion on gay marriage, or even marriage in general......this would have been right up your alley.

Thank you Static, its an article I may have never come across, and that is why I come to this site on an (almost) daily basis.

They didnt call it the dark ages because it was dark.

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