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How do Reavers pilot ships, them being insane cannibals and such?

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Friday, November 25, 2005 9:59 AM

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Originally posted by PurpleYin:
do you really think they know about the PAX?



I don’t think so, Reavers would have been affected with out knowing why they were doing it. Just like you can get CO2 asphyxiation with out knowing why you are so tired. Most of the original Reavers probably already had aggressive tendencies. The PAX just broke the normal societal restraints and fueled their aggressive tendencies. As for the actual compound it doesn’t really matter, medicine would be advanced enough where you can’t classify what is it is with today’s medical terms. Just like you couldn’t describe what a prion was 20 years ago.

I prefer the PAX kick starter and then Reaver society maintaining it. Many tribes around the world have rituals that can include self-mutilations (ie piercing, scarification, tattoos, and body modification) as well as cannibalism. Most of the traits we see in Reavers can be fond on Earth-that-is, just not all in one single tribe. People can join followings like cults and tribes and do horrendous things buy “normal standards” but are not horrendous by the standards of the group. This will allow for “recruiting” of new Reavers to replace the high mortality rate of the group. There are historical instances of ultra-aggressive behavior of one society to outside influences, especially when influenced with religious fervor. The “kill first, never ask questions” mentality

For another train of thought: maybe the survivor in Bushwacked was already a Reaver. We are never told if he was actually with the homesteaders. Everyone just assumed he was. Maybe he took too long with his meal. Or maybe the whole ambush could have been a rite of passage for “Reaver Men”. A kinda of ”Take over the next ship to prove you’re a man” thing. (interesting if considering Reaver procreation) The Reavers could also have left him as a punishment. “Your not worthy to be with us until you prove yourself to us.” All are very plausible and fit within the story frame we see.

All in all, it makes for an interesting discussion since Reavers are not “aliens”, and cannot be dismissed as such, but men gone bad, really really bad men. It forces us to think about what we are really capable of.

“That’s no ordinary rabbit, its got HUGE pointy teeth… Look at the bones man!”

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Friday, November 25, 2005 7:15 PM

Good point. Perhaps if it were a rite of passage, the reavers were to return after his transformation, and pick him up. That, or he was expected to fly the ship to miranda.

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Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:15 PM

How it comes to be that this thread is still alive defies all explanation.

Bottom line about cannibalism (direct from the Reaver cookbook)...

people taste just like chicken. pinch of salt, a snort of pepper...

XG


No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

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Friday, December 9, 2005 9:32 AM

IT'S ALIVE!!!

Bush crime family employs real-world reavers ("confidential informants" under "National Security") to terrorize USA and the world, so why can't Joss use Reavers employed by The Alliance? Ordo ab Chao... order out of chaos. Read the Iran-Contra hearings and court files, where Bush Sr White House argued it had the right to perp terrorist bombings to kill US citizens, especially US journalists, and the right to torture US citizens to death in secret Death Camps, and the right to import cocaine into USA, and the US judges agreed (Avirgan vs Hull, et al, and Harbury vs US)... Read Sun Tzu' Art of War. Read Machiavelli's The Prince. Then write a hell of a script, like Star Wars last scriptwriters did.

Joss' script for BTVS included US gov't plot to perp terrorism against USA, to blame the demons... Why is this concept okay for Fox TV fiction (especially The Lone Gunmen's pilot episode based on declassified Operation Northwoods), but it's self-censored reality by the people? Is that what he's doing, with The Alliance creating Reavers to "justify" its Martial Law Police State?

Heck, ALL the heros on Firefly are crooks (because they were evil in their past lives on BTVS?), so why can't Firefly fans figure out our "leaders" are crooks, too, when they have already been convicted of criminal acts, and are currently sued under RICO Act for perping the 9/11 terrorism? Bush Gang's own published reports - before they were "elected" in 2000 - confess they intended to invade Iraq on a pretext, and that they would need a "new Pearl Harbor event" (PNAC) to trick the public into volunteering for the 15-year-old war, again. So the bogus reasons for invasion of Iraq pale in comparison to the mountain of 9/11 evidence that provides probable cause for any cop, grand jury, judge, prosecutor or citizen to arrest every member of the Bush Gang. But most people just want to worship every politician, and every gov't, as gods... even The Alliance.

Mind-control brain chips were on the cannibal menu for Riley (who unfortunately is not in Firefly). Now our Real-World Dr Frankensteins are growing lab-rat cyborgs to fly fighter jets for the Pentagram, er, Pentagon:

"It sounds like science fiction: a brain nurtured in a Petri dish learns to pilot a fighter plane as scientists develop a new breed of "living" computer. But in groundbreaking experiments in a Florida laboratory that is exactly what is happening. The 'brain', grown from 25,000 neural cells extracted from a single rat embryo, has been taught to fly an F-22 jet simulator by scientists at the University of Florida."
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/12/06/1102182227308.html?rats

And out cannibal Dr Frankensteins have 1.5-million aborticied babies brains to play with every year in USA... Not even Reavers play with stem cells.

So give Joss and his gang some credit, without having to suspend all disbelief of the plotline. Yes, we do, unfortunately, have psychopaths trying to run the world, etc. One reason Joss' work is interesting to me, is that it has this DARK undercurrent of reality. Or is that just disinfo at its best, using neurolinguistic programming to associate/confuse fantasy (scifi antitech or magical witchcraft) with the reality of Gangsta Govt? Tony Robbins made $100-million doing that on TV.

Either way, its interesting to reverse-engineer the Joss magic formula for success. It sure beats those lame UN/NWO scripts for Star Treks, except for the universal lack of real-world space physics.

That's the danger for USA - and Hollywood - of living in a fantasy world. 80% of movies and TV shows in USA are now NOT made in USA. Our Gangsta Govt is bribed by NWO Shadow Govt to destroy USA by exporting factories, farms and jobs, and importing 100-million illegal aliens. Reality is a rush, not a bummer. Embrace it! My computer and video equipment was made by slaves in Commie China, where internet dissidents are skinned alive in traveling Death Vans, and cannibalized for US medical/cosmetic cartels... just like the Reavers... 7,000 Americans are iatrogenoci

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Monday, December 12, 2005 11:15 PM

I'm trying really hard to follow you, but my brain circuitry fryed a zillion-trillion words ago.

huh?

xGggxxg... um jcorejkt anszxwerr uiis "c". Yes thuh korrect answer is "c". I loverz multiple choice.

Who are you? and where am I going?

xGggxxg

the artist formerly known as gravity (sumtotal 3+2-5)

I am the what I is, and I ain't the was'nt I never wuz. Woosh-shooblydoo gimme some more of that, and then some. Hop_hiphoop_hooray. Who outlet the dogz?

I smell bacon. Hrrm off I go. Poop on you. (!)(? yes?)



and uberdooper PS... I have seen things I type and post go AWOL after the fact. They just suddenly cease to be (even after). I don't know what freaky level of reality you are coming from, but you smell like a twisted assfreak to me. But I can't smell. The smelly chessboard I play on tilts and turns and magically recombobulates the odors. I would gladly debate you my escaped mental patient friend, but the words shift meaning in midair because the atmosphere is phony.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:26 PM

My 2 cents...

This is how I see the events in the 'verse.
1. Alliance Drugs innocent ppl.
2. .1% turn Reaver.
3. Reavers commit unspeakable attrocities...
4. Drug wears off, resistance is developed...
5. Former Innocents, now Reaver are unable to Emotionally "cope" with their own attrocities commited. The Reaver "Culture" is all they have, so it continues.
6. Recruitment happens how we see in Bushwacked.

How do they Fly Spaceships?

Biologically they are still Humans, with the ability to reason, use tools, and walk and chew gum (ears, whatever) at the same time. They still have the same animal insticts they always have had, eat, reproduce, etc. What they accepts as Normal everyday life (i.e. "culture")is what we would consider insane (i.e. Rape, Canabilism, Aggression).

A Reaver Culture would have to exist, otherwise they would just keep killing until only one really fat reaver was standing. Argue as you would like about what this culture is like, but there has to be one. The Fact that reaver Culture is basically to butcher all outsiders and interact in a manner that is unfamiliar would lead Mal to label them as insane.

I would like to think (read speculation) of their culture as a wolfpack that is able to understand and use complex tools. They can communicate and work together for the good of the "Pack". Due to the Amount of death witnessed there is absolutely no fear, or awareness of death. Hence, no worries about radiation shielding (plus the added benifit of fun mutations).

To wrap this up...
They are still human with the humans abilities and knowledge but have been forced to accept a different culture that we see as insane.





Only the half mad are wholly alive!
E.A.

My sig seems appropriate here for some reason.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 7:46 PM

It seems to me that the reaver attacks are well planned, hmm signs of brains??? Also we have only seen reavers around prey who knows what they are like at home. Just sitting around cuttin' stuff up, maybe play a few card games, and somebody have to sharpen their weapons. Just waiting for a ship to pass by thinkin' 'ah the reaver life'

Sorry I know its a bad joke

~~River: Bible's broken. Contradictions, false logics. Doesn't make sense.~~

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Friday, December 16, 2005 9:24 PM

Please don't stop posting.

I love myths because they make you push theories towards infinity.

But I know nothing about Prions, apart that Mad Cow Disease=BAD.

So keep it coming, man. Logic will set us free.

The truth will make some angry...

Gedeon

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Thursday, December 2, 2021 8:06 PM

Will there ever be another show on this weird level, something that combined Cyberpunk stuff like Blade Runner with the Western Frontier, the realism of Babylon-5, the comedy of HongKong Chinese Action movies and Japan anime like Space Dandy or Matrix style stuff or Kids On The Slope, Ghost in the Shell or the movie Outland or Carole & Tuesday or Outlaw Star


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anyways...

I honestly thought the Reavers were kinda dumb

The rest of Firefly was great

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