In the garden, and RAIN!!!!
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Thursday, December 25, 2025 04:27
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Mah jong in the morning.
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Speaking of rain ...
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Both the CN and Canadian Pacific main lines along the Fraser River are out of service and will require heavy reconstruction of bridges and railbeds. Vancouver, the country’s biggest port, is closed. Coal mined from the Rocky Mountains is piling up at loading terminals along the Continental Divide. Potash unit trains are backed up at mines in Saskatchewan. The Prairie grain harvest, which should be flowing West at peak seasonal volumes, is constrained to CN’s northerly route from Edmonton to Canada’s secondary Pacific port, Prince Rupert.
A trickle of train movements over CP’s Crowsnest Subdivision indicates some traffic may be moving from an interchange with Union Pacific at Eastport, Idaho, but flooding on the U.S. side of the 49th parallel has choked off access to alternative ports at Portland and Seattle.
Is this as bad as it looks?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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I was wondering exactly where that was.
Your image Signy comes with this: "Both CN and CP are surveying the damage to their shared parallel main lines along the Thompson and Fraser Rivers. On Nov. 16, a CN train derailed on CP track near Yale, B.C. and remains immobile."
Mine (below) comes with this: "... road and rail connections with Vancouver and southwestern British Columbia could be disrupted for months
Both are from this story: https://www.railwayage.com/freight/class-i/disastrous-flooding-cuts-va
ncouver-off-from-rail-road-service/
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Yes, all this rain in BC has done more damage to the supply chain in country. People in the east will have to be patient with BC, until more roads are cleared and CP and CN can see what can be done to fix rail lines.
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There is more rain today but not enough to really do any more damage. Have to see what the weekend brings.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Yes, all this rain in BC has done more damage to the supply chain in country. People in the east will have to be patient with BC, until more roads are cleared and CP and CN can see what can be done to fix rail lines.
So does this mean that metro Vancouver is isolated from supplies? Empty shelves and shortages? Or does this isolate BC citites further inland?
Just wondering what this means for you, and for the large population around Vancouver.
Because smaller cities might by supplied by truck along alternate routes, or even by helicopter in emergencies. But there's got to be a million people living in and around Vancouver, so mass transportation is needed.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Yes, all this rain in BC has done more damage to the supply chain in country. People in the east will have to be patient with BC, until more roads are cleared and CP and CN can see what can be done to fix rail lines.
So does this mean that metro Vancouver is isolated from supplies? Empty shelves and shortages? Or does this isolate BC citites further inland?
Just wondering what this means for you, and for the large population around Vancouver.
Because smaller cities might by supplied by truck along alternate routes, or even by helicopter in emergencies. But there's got to be a million people living in and around Vancouver, so mass transportation is needed.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
There could be some meat shortages in Vancouver and where I am as the Fraser Valley is a main agricultural area in BC and it supplies meat and veg to Vancouver and over onto the Island.
Supply shortages will be worse in places like Hope and the farther out you go into the Interior of the province because of the roads and rail.
Trucking supplies in can work for cities like Hope but the farther you go from the Greater Vancouver area the rougher it gets. Backroads in this type of weather are not good. Mud slides, rock slides and that will cause more delays.
Course Vancouver Island has its own problems with these storms. A main highway called the Malahat is in rough shape over there with all of this.
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Quote:Sorry. I was just not familiar with ferries following along a coast.
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:Have a look at a map of the west coast of Canada, JSF. The coast line has a lot of islands and there are small communities on them. So, yes some ferries are out on the open water and some are just crossing the straight to Victoria which is on Vancouver Island. Some ferries stay close to the coast line and those are travelling up the Sunshine coast to places like Sechelt and Powell river. There are ferries that travel from Sandspit which is on Haida Gwaii and go over to the mainland from there.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:So the ferries need to traverse the sea, the strait, and the ocean?
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:British Columbia sits on the Pacific ocean and there is a ferry system that runs up the coast and over to Vancouver Island which is separated from the mainland by the Strait of Juan de Fuca. There is also the Salish sea.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:You had mentioned ferry on the sea. Which sea were you referring to?
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:SIG, my little corner of BC can be considered at times part of the Pacific Northwest.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Seems the month-lomg pattern here has been every week we get a blast of Santa Anas. Usually lasts only a day or two, but this time it's been Thursday thru Sunday (so far) of 90+ weather. And dry, dry, dry.
Been waiting for the soil to cool down so I can give my natives their every-other week water. They're due, since last (and only) rainfall to date was the 25th of Oct.
Supposedly we are in a la Nina condition, which often means dry for the southwest, wet for the northwest. Not sure if that includes Canada, BRENDA, but if your weather has been wetter than usual that might explain it.
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They're still predicting a 10F cooldown tomorrow and another 10F cooldown day after, so we will be back in the low 70s, where we belong!
Weather over the weekend has been very soggy and a bit into tomorrow and then a break on Tuesday followed by more rain for the rest of the week.
Gotten so much rain out into the Fraser Valley that a city called Abbotsford has had to open an emergency centre for some of their citizens. Mudslides.
Are the waves in wind worse on the sea/strait, or on the ocean? I'm thinking the waves could get more focused in the smaller sea/strait.
The Pacific isn't a tranquil place and fishing boats have gone down in storms. Winds on the strait are bad because they stop ferry service and as I told Kiki the combination of wind and waves could swamp a ferry.
Interesting.
Speaking of ferries, and regarding flooding, I am wondering if some ferries might be redeployed to help with critical transport of material.
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Quote:Sorry. I quoted to reference the topic of flooding.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:https://ca.news.yahoo.com/know-b-c-floods-nov-140000605.html
Originally posted by Brenda:
This is a correction for an earlier post. The town of Merritt has been completely evacuated due to flood waters.
That link should have been about the declaration of emergency.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Sorry. I was just not familiar with ferries following along a coast.
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:Have a look at a map of the west coast of Canada, JSF. The coast line has a lot of islands and there are small communities on them. So, yes some ferries are out on the open water and some are just crossing the straight to Victoria which is on Vancouver Island. Some ferries stay close to the coast line and those are travelling up the Sunshine coast to places like Sechelt and Powell river. There are ferries that travel from Sandspit which is on Haida Gwaii and go over to the mainland from there.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:So the ferries need to traverse the sea, the strait, and the ocean?
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:British Columbia sits on the Pacific ocean and there is a ferry system that runs up the coast and over to Vancouver Island which is separated from the mainland by the Strait of Juan de Fuca. There is also the Salish sea.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:You had mentioned ferry on the sea. Which sea were you referring to?
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:SIG, my little corner of BC can be considered at times part of the Pacific Northwest.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Seems the month-lomg pattern here has been every week we get a blast of Santa Anas. Usually lasts only a day or two, but this time it's been Thursday thru Sunday (so far) of 90+ weather. And dry, dry, dry.
Been waiting for the soil to cool down so I can give my natives their every-other week water. They're due, since last (and only) rainfall to date was the 25th of Oct.
Supposedly we are in a la Nina condition, which often means dry for the southwest, wet for the northwest. Not sure if that includes Canada, BRENDA, but if your weather has been wetter than usual that might explain it.
*****
They're still predicting a 10F cooldown tomorrow and another 10F cooldown day after, so we will be back in the low 70s, where we belong!
Weather over the weekend has been very soggy and a bit into tomorrow and then a break on Tuesday followed by more rain for the rest of the week.
Gotten so much rain out into the Fraser Valley that a city called Abbotsford has had to open an emergency centre for some of their citizens. Mudslides.
Are the waves in wind worse on the sea/strait, or on the ocean? I'm thinking the waves could get more focused in the smaller sea/strait.
The Pacific isn't a tranquil place and fishing boats have gone down in storms. Winds on the strait are bad because they stop ferry service and as I told Kiki the combination of wind and waves could swamp a ferry.
Interesting.
Speaking of ferries, and regarding flooding, I am wondering if some ferries might be redeployed to help with critical transport of material.
I've been up to the Sunshine coast on a ferry though that was many years ago. Sechelt is a great little place.
Had family on my dad's side that lived up that way. Ferries do no good when the flooding is all inland.
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