Unemployment Rate Facts

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I'm not sure if you have actually looked at the tables that I've been updating.
Have you?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Lesson summary: Unemployment

https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/ap-macroeconomics
/economic-iondicators-and-the-business-cycle/unemployment/a/lesson-summary-unemployment

Lesson overview

A country’s economic performance is measured using three key indicators, one of which is the unemployment rate. When adults who are willing and able to work cannot find a job, it may be a sign that an economy is producing less than it could. On the other hand, unemployment is also a natural phenomenon that even healthy economies experience. While the official unemployment rate is helpful in representing the state of a nation’s workforce, it does have some shortcomings that should be considered, such as excluding discouraged workers.

[Relevant points to my argument: i.e.: the Correct Argument]

Unemployed - A term that describes a person who could be working, and wants to work, but is not working; to be counted as unemployed you must be part of the eligible population, not working, and actively looking for work.

Discouraged Workers - People who do not have a job, but they will take a job if offered one. However, they have given up looking for work, so they are not counted in the labor force; for example, if Carol gives up looking for work because she is having trouble finding a job, she is no longer in the labor force and therefore is not counted as unemployed.

Underemployed - People who work part-time, but they really want to work full time if they could find a full-time job; for example, Tyreese wants to work full time as an engineer, but he can only find a part-time job.

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This category of Involuntary Part Time employees is a column I have posted/used in Tables 2, 3, and 6. It is also included in the calculation for U-6 Unemployment Rate, which I also post.

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Limitations of the Unemployment Rate:

The unemployment rate as it is measured officially is often criticized for understating the level of joblessness because it excludes anyone working at all or people who aren’t looking for work. In particular, the official unemployment rate leaves out discouraged workers and the underemployed. People who have given up looking for work because they are convinced that they cannot find jobs are considered discouraged workers. Some people are counted as employed because they are working part-time, even though they really want full-time work.


Common Misperceptions:

- Not everyone who is out of work is unemployed. In order to be counted as unemployed you have to be out of work, looking for work, and able to accept a job if one is offered to you. If you are out of work and not looking, then you are considered “not in the labor force” rather than unemployed.

(NOTE: The ONLY way this can be taken into account is by counting weekly unemployment claims. So anybody who just left college and is looking for a job isn't even counted as unemployed... and of those who are filing and counted, the second they can't file another claim because their unemployment benefit ran out, they are no longer counted as unemployed either).

- A decrease in the unemployment rate isn’t necessarily a sign of an improving economy. When people stop looking for jobs and drop out of the labor force as discouraged workers, the unemployment rate will decrease even though the true employment situation hasn’t gotten any better. This is why it is important to look at both changes in the unemployment rate and changes in the labor force participation rate. Looking at both changes let’s you get a more complete idea about changes in the employment situation.


Half the jobs in this country are bullshit, part-time McJobs that offer nothing or next to it in terms of benefits as well as low wages. So even if you throw out Discouraged Workers like your stupid little graph throws out, Second, you've got tens of millions

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, November 9, 2021 8:41 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
AFAIK to be counted as being unemployed you have to be actively receiving unemployment benefits and all the caveats and limitations that imposes.

I hope most people know by now that unemployment numbers are hardly meaningful, and that the labor force participation rate is a better metric. But it's not perfect! It counts "those who are employed or unemployed and looking for work, compared to the total adult population". If you work 1 hour a week, you're counted as employed. If your LOOKING for work, you still count!

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This sounds untrue. There are millions who are looking for work, but are not counted among the Labor Force because their Unemployment Benefits have been exhausted. How are you imagining that solely looking for work fits into some category of the Labor Force?

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It's unclear if Kiki meant what you were saying she meant or not.

But I cleared that up in the following post. Answering YES when asked if you are currently looking for work is a requirement every week you file for unemployment benefits.

But this does bring up a good point. It allows the Media to say something that stupid people would believe. "If you're looking for work, you're counted as unemployed".

Not really. Only if you claimed you were looking for work during the last week you filed for unemployment benefits.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It's unclear if Kiki meant what you were saying she meant or not.

But I cleared that up in the following post. Answering YES when asked if you are currently looking for work is a requirement every week you file for unemployment benefits.

But this does bring up a good point. It allows the Media to say something that stupid people would believe. "If you're looking for work, you're counted as unemployed".

Not really. Only if you claimed you were looking for work during the last week you filed for unemployment benefits.

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Whether discouraged or looking for work is meaningless unless you live in the 60,000 households surveyed each month. YOU COUNT FOR NOTHING UNLESS YOU LIVE IN THOSE 60,000 HOUSEHOLDS. Most of what happens everyday is unknowable except to the one or two people who were there when it happens, including being employed or not.

The Current Population Survey (CPS) is a monthly survey of about 60,000 U.S. households conducted by the United States Census Bureau for the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). The BLS uses the data to publish reports early each month called the Employment Situation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_Population_Survey

You can get a little understanding of how the Bureau of Labor Statistics goes from 60,000 households in the Current Population Survey (CPS) to a monthly report on unemployment by reading this: https://www.bls.gov/lau/stalt.htm

If you think you have better numbers than the Current Population Survey (CPS) of 60,000 households, you need to tell the world where your better numbers came from.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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It's unclear if Kiki meant what you were saying she meant or not.

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One of the requirements for continuing to receive unemployment benefits - and therefore be counted as unemployed - if you are eligible in NYS is that you have to PROVABLY show you're looking for work. One way to prove that is to go down to the unemployment office and look through their job listings for a required amount of time. I couldn't say what other states require.

Once those benefits run out, or you fail to keep provably looking for work and are kicked out of the program, the unemployment office treats you like you no longer exist. And it doesn't care - and has no way of knowing - if you're continuing to look for work.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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It's unclear if Kiki meant what you were saying she meant or not.

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One of the requirements for continuing to receive unemployment benefits - and therefore be counted as unemployed - if you are eligible in NYS is that you have to PROVABLY show you're looking for work. One way to prove that is to go down to the unemployment office and look through their job listings for a required amount of time. I couldn't say what other states require.

Once those benefits run out, or you fail to keep provably looking for work and are kicked out of the program, the unemployment office treats you like you no longer exist. And it doesn't care - and has no way of knowing - if you're continuing to look for work.

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Exactly. Now you have changed your claim.
Just because you are looking for work does not make you included as Unemployed.

Looking for work does not matter. Only if you report to the government that you are looking for work does it, and do you count.

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If there were truly a worker shortage, wages would be going up, not down. For all workers, hourly earnings are down 1.3% compared to a year ago. For blue-collar workers, hourly earnings are down 0.5%.
https://jabberwocking.com/wage-growth-has-been-negative-over-the-past-
year/



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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JSF, I narrowed my claim, I didn't change it.


Since **I** was taking about unemployment figures and government tallies, I assumed you'd understand that I was talking about figures the government could generate or have access to, for example, when it comes to unemployment, the government's lists of people OFFICIALLY unemployed, according to its rules.

But apparently, you're blind to context, or unable to manage it.

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