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Some Covid-19 thoughts

POSTED BY: captaincrunch
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Saturday, November 6, 2021 5:59 AM

DeSantis isn't the only one fighting this. There are a lot of others.

You should watch DeSantis' press conference on it last night. I know it's long, but it's a very worthwhile watch.

That man answered more questions from the press in 10 minutes last night than Biden* ever will in 4 years as President.

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 11:08 PM

Japan reports no COVID-related deaths for first time in 15 months

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/11/07/national/japan-coronaviru
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Monday, November 8, 2021 8:36 AM

For Whom Do the Covid “Fact Checkers” Really Work?

https://brownstone.org/articles/for-whom-do-the-covid-fact-checkers-re
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There are two types of COVID19 survivors— those who have documented recovery from sars-cov-2 (either PCR, antigen or serology + tests) or those who have self-identified recovery from sars-cov 2 (said they had it).

When it comes to the former group, we know with confidence, the chance they get re-infected and severely ill is very very low, and far lower than people who have not yet had and recovered from COVID19 (this is called natural immunity). The data in support of this is massive, and quite certain. Antibody data is beside the point— we care about the thing in itself getting sick.

So do these people (those who recovered) benefit from vaccination? Current data is solely observational— and that is a huge problem. If you compare people with recovery who chose to get the vax vs. those who chose not to get it— you are comparing very different types of people. Their behavior, and appetite to take risks (going out to crowded places) may also be different. We know both groups have very low rates of re-infection, but direct comparisons to assess vaccine efficacy after recovery are fraught.

The right answer would be to conduct an RCT of vaccination among those who recovered. It could have 3 arms. No further doses; 1 dose, or 2 doses. It could be large (after all, millions have recovered), and powered to look for rates of severe disease. In the absence of this, experts are largely speculating.

So here is what blows my mind: We are living in a world where the CDC director can say something that is false, made-up and no institution will say otherwise. [that masks reduce risk of infection by more than 80%] At the same time, major, venerable fact checking institutions are literally asserting as fact something which is at best unproven.

No matter how you feel about these issues; these are dangerous times. Truth and falsehood is not a matter of science but cultural power— the ability to proclaim and define the truth. If this continues, dark times lie ahead. Someday soon, we may not like who defines the truth.



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Monday, November 8, 2021 5:22 PM

Appeals court stays vaccine mandate on larger businesses

https://apnews.com/article/appeals-court-stays-vaccine-mandate-coronav
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Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry said the action stops President Joe Biden “from moving forward with his unlawful overreach.”

“The president will not impose medical procedures on the American people without the checks and balances afforded by the constitution,” said a statement from Landry, a Republican.



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Monday, November 8, 2021 5:22 PM

Vaccine mandates buoyed by bogus polls give GOP golden ticket to win

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/nov/6/vaccine-mandates-buoye
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In late September, Gallup sent out some shockwaves with this headline: “Majority in U.S. Supports Biden COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates.” Gallup went on to write, “Americans generally support vaccination mandates, including for air travel, attendance at crowded events and other activities” and 63% of U.S. adults also support “vaccination requirements for teachers and staff in K-12 schools.”

Well, no.

Not true.

Keep reading.

The truth is actually that Democrats support these mandates. Republicans do not. And Independents are split.

By Gallup’s own numbers, between 93% and 94% of Democrats favor vaccine mandates for federal workers, for employees at private companies with 100 or more workers, for workers at hospitals that receive Medicare and Medicaid funds, and for paid time off for employees to deal with COVID-19 issues. By Gallup’s own numbers, too, only 19% of Republicans favor vaccine requirements for federal workers, 17%, for privately employed workers, 25% for hospital workers, and 33% for the paid time off deal.

So how is it that we arrive at the idea the “majority in U.S.” support the Joe Biden-type vaccine mandates — as Gallup wrote? As after which many, many, many in the media then reported?

That was September. The deceptions continue.

From Politico, on October 9, this headline: “POLITICO-Harvard poll: Most Americans support vaccine mandates for school kids.”

Again, keep reading. The truth will come. Eventually.

“Nearly three in four Democrats favor a vaccine mandate for the students while 59 percent of Republicans are opposed,” Politico wrote. “Just over half of self-described independents also are against the mandates.”

In other words, about three-quarters of Democrats want the mandates on kids; most Republicans and most independents, do not.

Once again, the headline, the summary line, the Twitter message, the shared social media takeaway becomes this: A majority of Americans want COVID-19 mandated vaccines for school kids. A majority in America support vaccine mandates for children.

No. They don’t.

A majority of Democrats do — but that’s because the majority of Democrats are the ones using the coronavirus as tools to oppress and control. It’s Joe Biden and Joe Biden’s socialist-fueled White House and Joe Biden’s globalist-infiltrated administration and Joe Biden’s band of merry Marxists masquerading as members of the Democrat Party who have taken this coronavirus and run roughshod over individual liberties for going on two years now, all the while claiming that science dictates this, oh wait a minute, now science dictates that, oh wait just another second, science now dictates this — all the while expecting the good people of America to jump, jump, don’t ask questions, just jump — it’s these types who’ve taken a virus and exploited it for personal agenda.

As for those who did ask questions?

Booted from social media. Silenced by the left’s partners in Big Tech. Mocked and shamed and targeted for attack by the left.



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Monday, November 8, 2021 10:49 PM

L.A. Movie Theaters, Restaurants Will Require Proof of COVID-19 Vaccination

https://variety.com/2021/biz/news/los-angeles-covid-vaccination-proof-
movie-theaters-restaurants-1235105494
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New data estimates thousands of Australians are living with undiagnosed cancers after COVID-19 lockdowns
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/thousands-living-with-undiagnos
ed-cancers-covid-19-lockdowns/100595846


One in four vaccinated people living in households with a covid-19 case become infected, study finds
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2638

COVID-19 in India: AY.4.2 Not Yet a Variant of Concern
https://fit.thequint.com/coronavirus/ay42-not-a-matter-of-concern-indi
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Brazil becomes second worst Covid-19 country; a time bomb for neighboring countries, WHO reports
https://en.mercopress.com/2021/03/15/brazil-becomes-second-worst-covid
-19-country-a-time-bomb-for-neighboring-countries-who-reports


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Monday, November 8, 2021 11:57 PM


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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
One in four vaccinated people living in households with a covid-19 case become infected, study finds
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2638

That shows that vaccines are even better at preventing breakthrough infections than previous estimates, that put it at about 66%.

And these are vaccines that weren't designed to prevent infections! That's because infection and transmission take place at the mucosal surfaces. Since this vaccine is injected, it doesn't stimulate mucosal antibodies, only internal antibodies delivered through the blood. The vaccines were specifically designed to prevent serious illness and death. Also remember, there is NO vaccine - no matter how good - that's 100% effective. So breakthrough infections shouldn't be used as a measure of success or failure for these vaccines.

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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 12:32 AM

Biden Covid Deaths

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/biden-covid-death-tracker/

341,700 + Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office.





https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

USA Cases 47,337,000 +
India 34,374,455
Brazil 21,880,439

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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 6:18 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
One in four vaccinated people living in households with a covid-19 case become infected, study finds
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2638

That shows that vaccines are even better at preventing breakthrough infections than previous estimates, that put it at about 66%.

And these are vaccines that weren't designed to prevent infections! That's because infection and transmission take place at the mucosal surfaces. Since this vaccine is injected, it doesn't stimulate mucosal antibodies, only internal antibodies delivered through the blood. The vaccines were specifically designed to prevent serious illness and death. Also remember, there is NO vaccine - no matter how good - that's 100% effective. So breakthrough infections shouldn't be used as a measure of success or failure for these vaccines.



That came as a big fucking surprise to all of the people who ran out and got the vaccine just to make this all go away when those Texas Democrats all had breakthrough cases from swapping spit or whatever they were doing on that plane flight.

The media didn't tell anybody that it wasn't going to prevent infection until at least 50% of Americans were already vaccinated. There's a lot of buyer's remorse out there now, but you never hear about it because the internet is so heavily censored regarding Covid.

I'm not accusing you of pretending that the Media was up front and honest about any of this, but don't ignore the fact that they lied by omission either.

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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 4:13 PM


When the vaccines were first being developed, all the caveats about infections v serious illnesses and deaths were thoroughly and frequently reported. They seemed to be lowering expectations.

After the vaccines tested out as preventing roughly 85% of infections against the alpha COVID-19 strain was when the facts were blurred. There was A LOT of weasel-wording to imply one thing (95% effective!!! ... at what, they failed to specify.) while actually saying something else. And at some point a few people did slip into outright falsehoods.

That was something I was posting about all along. But I didn't do any special digging to find that particular set of facts, I just paid attention-to the news more closely, and remembered it longer, than most.

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