Alec Baldwin Shot Someone Dead on a Movie Set
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The responsible person in charge of overseeing the gun props, known as the armorer, is Hannah Gutierrez Reed, who could not be reached for comment. The 24-year-old is the daughter of veteran armorer Thell Reed and had recently completed her first film as the head armorer for the movie “The Old Way,” with Clint Howard and Nicolas Cage.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wow, that sucks.
Who's responsible for that, ultimately? The producer?
https://web.archive.org/web/20211023174509/https://www.latimes.com/ent
ertainment-arts/business/story/2021-10-22/alec-baldwin-rust-camera-crew-walked-off-set
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Yes, but there was another incident on set. Why no investigation? Why not institute a second pair of eyes? Why not fire or demote the armorer? Was this a case of rushing to stay on-schedule? Not ruffle the feelings of the daughter of an industry insider? What gives?
There should never have been a "second time" after the "first time".
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Strange events or odd coincidence
Assistant Director worked on the sequel to Crow, a sequal to the original movie where Brandon Lee died
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0132910/
There were 3 reported dangerous events on this set
Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was active on various social media platforms, she is now deleting her social media, she has a Tattoo of some Crow or Raven
In the Crow movie Brandon Lee quotes Edgar Allen Poe's 'The Raven' poem
and url pic link
i.ibb.co/QQjcvrb/3019e568b5904365c654c2f875001c.jpg
The other Baldwin guy has spoken out
I take the other actor Adam Baldwin with a pinch of salt, he was a Neo-Con supporter before he did Firefly, did the Alien Invasion Independence Day 1996, starred in Full Metal Jacket as well as the television series and movie Firefly/Serenity and was in a recent tv show in The Last Ship.
The loundmouth Adam Baldwin our Firefly Actor and no relation to those other Baldwin hollywood family
However as hot-headed and Neo-Con as he was, sometimes I do believe he once in a while stumbles upon important stuff to say
his thoughts
https://twitter.com/AdamBaldwin/status/1452083940416647168
This weapon has a hair trigger when cocked. It never should have been cocked, let alone unchecked for barrel obstruction, aimed at crewmembers and squeezed.
Negligent homicide.
He also posted
Theory:
Producer/Star of movie is highly agitated about time/cost overruns on his film, to the point that key crewmembers protest about safety concerns but are snubbed by Producer/Star… so they walk off.
Pressure builds, corners are cut to save time, e.g., pre-set “hot” guns…
and
'If you’re pointing a weapon at anyone on set without permission from the armorer, director & 1st AD, then you should be reprimanded for the first offense, fired for the second.
If you do so and harm/kill someone, you should be be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.'
https://twitter.com/AdamBaldwin/status/1452028687956598785
He re-tweets Imagine it was Mel Gibson who negligently killed someone with a firearm on set. Would the media landscape be the same? Definitely not.
He REPLIES
Or Clint (which of course would never happen)?!
maybe Adam went too far here with these comments? or did he??
The Alec Baldwin “prop gun” shooting victim has ties to Jeffrey Epstein, Hunter Biden and the Clinton Foundation
https://www.canucknews.ca/post/alec-baldwin-s-shooting-victim-s-strang
e-ties-to-jeffrey-epstein-hunter-biden-the-clinton-s
This was the person in charge of firearms on Baldwin's production, no joke
https://twitter.com/FDSheckler/status/1451863147401338882
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Strange events or odd coincidence
Assistant Director worked on the sequel to Crow, a sequal to the original movie where Brandon Lee died
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0132910/
What was his name? They don't show pictures of crew on IMDB and there was no assistant director listed for Crow 2.
If he worked on both movies, that sucks to be him but I'd say it's just a lousy coincidence.
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There were 3 reported dangerous events on this set
That's not a coincidence. Safety first.
OSHA is going to mandate vaccinations but let's Hollywood do whatever it wants to apparently.
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Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was active on various social media platforms, she is now deleting her social media, she has a Tattoo of some Crow or Raven
In the Crow movie Brandon Lee quotes Edgar Allen Poe's 'The Raven' poem
This is not a coincidence. I'm absolutely sure she was getting horrible tweets and death threats. Social Media is cancer under the best of situations. Right now for Hannah it was stage 4 pancreatic cancer.
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The other Baldwin guy has spoken out
I take the other actor Adam Baldwin with a pinch of salt, he was a Neo-Con supporter before he did Firefly, did the Alien Invasion Independence Day 1996, starred in Full Metal Jacket as well as the television series and movie Firefly/Serenity and was in a recent tv show in The Last Ship.
The loundmouth Adam Baldwin our Firefly Actor and no relation to those other Baldwin hollywood family
However as hot-headed and Neo-Con as he was, sometimes I do believe he once in a while stumbles upon important stuff to say
his thoughts
https://twitter.com/AdamBaldwin/status/1452083940416647168
This weapon has a hair trigger when cocked. It never should have been cocked, let alone unchecked for barrel obstruction, aimed at crewmembers and squeezed.
Negligent homicide.
He also posted
Theory:
Producer/Star of movie is highly agitated about time/cost overruns on his film, to the point that key crewmembers protest about safety concerns but are snubbed by Producer/Star… so they walk off.
Pressure builds, corners are cut to save time, e.g., pre-set “hot” guns…
and
'If you’re pointing a weapon at anyone on set without permission from the armorer, director & 1st AD, then you should be reprimanded for the first offense, fired for the second.
If you do so and harm/kill someone, you should be be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.'
https://twitter.com/AdamBaldwin/status/1452028687956598785
He re-tweets Imagine it was Mel Gibson who negligently killed someone with a firearm on set. Would the media landscape be the same? Definitely not.
He REPLIES
Or Clint (which of course would never happen)?!
maybe Adam went too far here with these comments? or did he??
He brings up good points I hadn't considered before.
I'm sure that if it were Eastwood or Gibson the media coverage would be entirely different right now.
Had Alec ever had any proper firearm training in his life, he'd never wave around a gun like it was a toy and point it at other people. Not even a prop gun.
But Hollywood Leftists live in their gated communities and never go anywhere that they'd need any protection and spend their free time telling everybody else what to do.
Alec didn't murder anyone. I'm sure of that. But maybe this is manslaughter.
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What was his name? They don't show pictures of crew on IMDB and there was no assistant director listed for Crow 2.
Dave Halls
https://thenational.net.au/alec-baldwin-assistant-director-who-gave-st
ar-loaded-gun-worked-on-sequel-to-the-crow-where-brandon-lee-was-killed/
https://meaww.com/dave-halls-assistant-director-rust-brought-live-gun-
alec-baldwin-safe-for-use-halyna-hutchins
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2021-10-23/ale
c-baldwin-shooting-assistant-director-dave-halls
They credit him as 'first assistant director: second unit and second assistant director' on the Crow movie
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Hollywood’s love of guns increases the risk of shootings – both on and off the set
https://theconversation.com/hollywoods-love-of-guns-increases-the-risk
-of-shootings-both-on-and-off-the-set-170489
Making guns ‘cool’
The potential harm caused by guns in Hollywood goes far beyond the occasional tragic accident on set. Studies show that simply seeing a gun can increase aggression in the viewer through what is called the “weapons effect.”
Violent movies and TV programs, which often contain guns, can likewise increase aggression and make viewers numb to the pain and suffering of others, numerous studies show.
And children might be especially vulnerable – which makes it all the more notable that the prevalence of guns in PG-13 movies has increased over the decades.
Younger viewers will often identify movie characters as being “cool” and want to imitate their behavior.
This was seen with smoking on screen: Children who see movie characters smoke cigarettes are more likely to smoke themselves. A similar effect was observed with children who watched movie characters drink alcohol.
In a study conducted by one of us, pairs of children ages 8 to 12 were first randomly assigned to watch a PG-rated movie clip containing guns or the same movie clip with the guns edited out.
They were then put in a room that contained several toys and games, while being observed by a hidden camera.
A cabinet in the room contained a real, but disabled, 9mm handgun that had been modified with a digital counter to record the number of times children pulled the trigger.
Most children (72%) opened the drawer and found the gun. But children who watched the movie clip with guns in it held the handgun longer – on average 53.1 seconds compared with 11.1 seconds for those who watched a clip without guns. They also pulled the trigger more times – 2.8 times on average compared with 0.01 times for those who watched the movie clip without guns.
Some children engaged in very dangerous behaviors with the real gun, such as pulling the trigger while pointing the gun at themselves or their partner. One boy pointed the real gun out the laboratory window at people in the street.
The kind of gun violence featured in Hollywood movies tends to highlight the justified use of those weapons. When characters use guns to defend themselves or family, their use is seen as acceptable.
This has the result of encouraging viewers to think that using guns for the protection of self or others is virtuous.
Reflecting or glamorizing violence?
The United States is the most heavily armed society in the world. Although consisting of about 4% of the world’s population, U.S. citizens possess almost half of the world’s guns.
In featuring guns so heavily, there is a danger that Hollywood is not merely reflecting society – it is encouraging firearm sales.
While incidents of actors and film production staff being injured or killed through accidental shootings are thankfully rare, the likelihood of fatal shootings – accidental or otherwise – in the real world goes up with every sale of the kinds of guns featured by Hollywood.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Hollywood’s love of guns increases the risk of shootings – both on and off the set
Yup. Those Leftist twats in Hollywood don't want anybody to own a gun, but they love playing them some Cowboy's and Indians.
Maybe if Alec spent 1 day at a firing range and getting trained, a mother of two wouldn't be dead by his hand right now.
Shut the fuck up, Second.
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The assistant director Dave Halls was the one who handed Baldwin what was supposed to be a 'cold gun'.
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Gun accidents on set like Alec Baldwin’s aren’t new
https://nypost.com/2021/10/24/gun-accidents-on-set-arent-new/
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Gun accidents on set like Alec Baldwin’s aren’t new
https://nypost.com/2021/10/24/gun-accidents-on-set-arent-new/
I think Cindy Adams is one of those drug abusers you hate so much.
About halfway through her "article" she totally loses her train of thought.
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'Rust' director Joel Souza told authorities Alec Baldwin was "sitting in a pew in a church building setting, and he was practicing a cross draw," the affidavit said. A cross draw is when a shooter pulls the weapon from a holster on the opposite side of the body from the draw hand.
Souza also confirmed to an investigator that he heard the term "cold gun" on set, meaning the firearm should have been empty.
According to the warrant, Souza said three people had been handling the guns or firearms for scenes -- they were checked by the armorer and first assistant director and then given to the actor using them.
The investigator said Souza was unaware of anyone on set being checked to see if they had live ammunition on them before or after the scenes were filmed.
"The only thing checked are the firearms to avoid live ammunition being in them. Joel (Souza) stated there should never be live rounds whatsoever near or around the scene," the affidavit said.
According to an earlier search warrant affidavit, the film's assistant director, David Halls, handed the prop gun to Baldwin before the shooting and yelled "cold gun," a remark meant to indicate the weapon didn't have live rounds. Halls had been the subject of complaints over safety and his behavior on set during two productions in 2019, two people who worked closely with him told CNN. The complaints against Halls include a disregard for safety protocols for weapons.
More at https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/25/entertainment/alec-baldwin-shooting-rus
t-shooting-monday/index.html
At different times the finger of blame has pointed to three different people: the actor, the armorer, and the assistant director. There might be a fourth person who put a lead bullet into the gun.
I think that was the plot of a "Murder, She Wrote" episode. Who was the fourth person? Who was the real killer? The mystery was solved in only 42 minutes, but it isn't on the list of "15 Essential Episodes of Murder, She Wrote".
https://www.vulture.com/article/murder-she-wrote-best-episodes-peacock
.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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