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Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) , who chairs the Senate Energy and Natural Resources committee, will not support a clean electricity program. Why?
Manchin’s home state of West Virginia is one of the largest producers of coal in the US, and Manchin himself benefits financially from coal, the dirtiest fuel for electric power plants. Explaining his opposition, Manchin said in so many words: Just because I say so. How dare you accuse a Senator of being crooked!
The clean electricity standard is a bit of a misnomer because the actual policy being discussed is even more boring-sounding: a clean electricity payment program that pays utilities to clean up their act (which means stop burning coal) and fines them for missing deadlines.
The program would help bring lagging areas up to speed with the ambitious targets set by the Biden administration, which call for 80 percent of the nation’s electricity to come from clean sources by 2030, and 100 percent by 2035. Not only will getting to 100 percent clean electricity directly cut more than a quarter of US carbon pollution, it will also enable large parts of our transportation, building, and industrial sectors to run on clean power. Powering as much of these sectors as we can with carbon-free electricity would allow us to cut US emissions 70 to 80 percent. It would, in short, solve a huge chunk of our climate challenge.
Sen. Joe Manchin does NOT want to reduce carbon because that would close his family's coal mining business. He does NOT want to shutdown his business in 2035, which is only 14 years from now. The motivation for a Capitalist such as Manchin is very easy to understand, but only if you ignore his deflections and rationalizations, which are camouflage for his real motivation -- money.
More at https://www.vox.com/2021/10/16/22729648/manchin-climate-change-reconci
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
...They didn't believe smoking caused cancer. None the less, cancer killed them.)
Biden will be fine.
Y'all just injected a bunch of stuff the same agency tells you is fine that told those dead guys that smoking cigarettes was fine.
In both instances, huge companies made boatloads of cash.
Good luck.
Biden* is toast.

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Quote:You don't believe carbon dioxide will change the climate. Those old smokers didn't believe smoke causes cancer, but they are still dead from cancer. If America keeps burning coal, we are dead from climate change. We don't know exactly when, or how many will die, but we also don't know exactly when or how many smokers will someday die of cancer, either, although America already has collected millions of data points about dead smokers.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
...They didn't believe smoking caused cancer. None the less, cancer killed them.)
Biden will be fine.
Y'all just injected a bunch of stuff the same agency tells you is fine that told those dead guys that smoking cigarettes was fine.
In both instances, huge companies made boatloads of cash.
Good luck.
Biden* is toast.
America is running two experiments in parallel: burning as much tobacco and coal as America wants in order to learn how many Americans die. It will be hard to differentiate which burning substance kills the most people until another hundred years of data is collected. You are now free to smoke if you've got something to burn.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Don't care, idiot.
Your opinion matters to nobody but yourself.
Have fun playing with your pud all day in Mom's basement, loser.
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Quote:How many cigarettes do you smoke? Are you running an experiment to show that tobacco can't kill you if you don't believe it causes cancer? Trumptards are running an experiment to show that burning coal can't kill them if they don't believe in climate change. Trumptards don't care what either experiment will prove and not caring frees them to do as they please.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't care, idiot.
Your opinion matters to nobody but yourself.
Have fun playing with your pud all day in Mom's basement, loser.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:How many cigarettes do you smoke? Are you running an experiment to show that tobacco can't kill you if you don't believe it causes cancer? Trumptards are running an experiment to show that burning coal can't kill them if they don't believe in climate change. Trumptards don't care what either experiment will prove and not caring frees them to do as they please.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't care, idiot.
Your opinion matters to nobody but yourself.
Have fun playing with your pud all day in Mom's basement, loser.
I know I'll get cancer, stupid.
Fuck your holier than thou bullshit. You're probably 350lbs, you little bitch.
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Getting older has a way of removing all the things you assumed about yourself, that are part of your identity.
Your teeth going was the first event of that kind, taking away the smile you always thought was an essential part of who you are.
You may get lung cancer, or you may get prostate cancer. Or neither of those might happen, and you could develop high blood pressure and have a stroke - and there goes the independence you imagine is an indelible part of you. Or you could get microvascular disease and develop dementia, and there goes the mind you feel is who you are. And so on.
There can be many steps between who you are now and death; removing the things about you that you think are who you are, bit by bit.
But enough about you, because there are other topics.
This particular one is global warming.
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But enough about you, because there are other topics.
Fuck you Kiki.
Second is the one who is obsessed with talking about me.
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You do a lot of off-topic trolling and talking about yourself, with no help from anyone else. Here for example, with no one talking about the vaccine ... or you ... you just had to post this:
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6IXSTRINGJACK:
But if somebody tries to force the shot on me, they're going to meet their maker.
And that kicked off the whole stream of trolling and counter trolling between you and SECOND that had nothing to do with the topic at all. And at least SECOND TRIED to get back to the thread title.

You know, you post literally nothing but trolling the minute anyone disagrees with you about anything at all. Have you noticed that? You've become a straight-up troll with nothing relevant or interesting to say about anything.
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There is no reason to post anything serious when I've got to listen to you and Second spout nonsense all day long.
Second NEVER brings the topic back on Topic. Everything he posts is about Trump, personal attacks, evil republicans, or why capitalism is evil.
You know this, and you're just being a cunt because you are a cunt.
You're an idiot, Kiki.
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