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Quote:Go ahead and show me that poll where Democrats and Republicans about equally disapprove of a Democrat for President. I look forward to you locating that poll because neither google nor bing can find it.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Tell yourself whatever you want to buddy.
Democrats are toast next November. Biden* is a failed one-term President*.
And it's only going to get worse for your ideology from here.
As for failed one-term Presidents, Lincoln had to switch to the National Union Party in 1864 because he couldn't get reelected as a Republican. And he wasn't popular as a Republican, either, getting only 40% of the votes in 1860.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1864_National_Union_National_Convention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Trashing the planet and hiding the money isn’t a perversion of capitalism. It is capitalism.
Capitalism was arguably born on a remote island. A few decades after the Portuguese colonised Madeira in 1420, they developed a system that differed in some respects from anything that had gone before. By felling the forests after which they named the island (madeira is Portuguese for wood), they created, in this uninhabited sphere, a blank slate – a terra nullius – in which a new economy could be built. Financed by bankers in Genoa and Flanders, they transported enslaved people from Africa to plant and process sugar. They developed an economy in which land, labour and money lost their previous social meaning and became tradable commodities.
As the geographer Jason Moore points out in the journal Review, a small amount of capital could be used, in these circumstances, to grab a vast amount of natural wealth. On Madeira’s rich soil, using the abundant wood as fuel, slave labour achieved a previously unimaginable productivity. In the 1470s, this tiny island became the world’s biggest producer of sugar.
Madeira’s economy also had another characteristic that distinguished it from what had gone before: the astonishing speed at which it worked through the island’s natural wealth. Sugar production peaked in 1506. By 1525 it had fallen by almost 80%. The major reason, Moore believes, was the exhaustion of accessible supplies of wood: Madeira ran out of madeira.
It took 60kg of wood to refine 1kg of sugar. As wood had to be cut from ever steeper and more remote parts of the island, more slave labour was needed to produce the same amount of sugar. In other words, the productivity of labour collapsed, falling roughly fourfold in 20 years. At about the same time, the forest clearing drove several endemic species to extinction.
In what was to become the classic boom-bust-quit cycle of capitalism, the Portuguese shifted their capital to new frontiers, establishing sugar plantations first on São Tomé, then in Brazil, then in the Caribbean, in each case depleting resources before moving on. As Moore says, the seizure, exhaustion and partial abandonment of new geographical frontiers is central to the model of accumulation that we call capitalism. Ecological and productivity crises like Madeira’s are not perverse outcomes of the system. They are the system.
There is a gulf between the reality of the system and the way it presents itself. Almost from the beginning of capitalism, attempts were made to sanitise it. Madeira’s early colonists created an origin myth, which claimed that the island was consumed by a wild fire, lasting for seven years, that cleared much of the forest. But there was no such natural disaster. The fires were set by people. The fire front we call capitalism burned across Madeira before the sparks jumped and set light to other parts of the world.
Capitalism’s fake history was formalised in 1689 by John Locke, in his Second Treatise of Government. “In the beginning all the world was America,” he tells us, a blank slate without people whose wealth was just sitting there, ready to be taken. But unlike Madeira, America was inhabited, and the indigenous people had to be killed or enslaved to create his terra nullius. The right to the world, he claimed, was established through hard work: when a man has “mixed his labour” with natural wealth, he “thereby makes it his property”. But those who laid claim to large amounts of natural wealth did not mix their own labour with it, but that of their slaves. The justifying fairytale capitalism tells about itself – you become rich through hard work and enterprise, adding value to natural wealth – is the greatest propaganda coup in human history.
When we see the same things happening in places thousands of miles apart, we should stop treating them as isolated phenomena, and recognise the pattern. All the talk of “taming” capitalism and “reforming” capitalism hinges on a mistaken idea of what it is.
More at https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/06
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Shut up, Commie.
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Quote:To prosper with certainty in Capitalism requires understanding how it works. Without understanding, it's luck to do well, much the same as only the lucky win Mega Millions and Powerball.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Shut up, Commie.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Yup.
And I'm doing great. 
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Quote:6ix wrote: "I can manage to live quite comfortably on around only $4,500 per year, and that's including property taxes and car insurance."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup.
And I'm doing great.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63720&mid=11044
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6ix, you are living a minimalist's life on $12.33/day. That is not Capitalism in the least. You need to up your expenditures to include ammo and grenades for your war on Democrats, who are killing babies, says Trump:
May 13, 2019 — NEW YORK (AP) — President Donald Trump, in what's become a staple of his rallies, accuses doctors of executing babies who are born alive.
https://apnews.com/article/health-north-america-donald-trump-ap-top-ne
ws-crime-273acfa7888d406d8cacb8dc601088be
21 June 2020 — Trump baffles with 'after birth execution' comment in rally speech
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/trump-ra
lly-speech-after-birth-execution-abortion-tulsa-a9577591.html
Oct 10, 2021 — Trump accuses Democrats of supporting 'killing babies after birth' in Iowa rally speech
https://www.businessinsider.com/watch-trump-claims-democrats-support-k
illing-babies-after-birth-2021-10
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix wrote: "I can manage to live quite comfortably on around only $4,500 per year, and that's including property taxes and car insurance."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup.
And I'm doing great.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63720&mid=11044
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Yup. The point isn't that I need to. The point is that I can.
It's why I'm going to be able to spend the remainder of my "work" life hardly doing any work unless I want to do it.
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6ix, you are living a minimalist's life on $12.33/day.
Yup.
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That is not Capitalism in the least.
It's half of it... and I'd argue it's the better half. At least when you're not the Federal Government and you don't have the authority to mint 1 Trillion Dollar platinum coins.
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You need to up your expenditures to include ammo and grenades for your war on Democrats...
What war? They're killing themselves and each other. Democrats and the soy cuck idiots who vote for them are the least scary people on earth.
I get to sit back and laugh at their failures.
If ever comes the day that one of them grows a sack and comes knockin' on my door lookin' to make their problems my problems, don't worry your pretty little head about me, boy.
I'll give 'em a good welcome.
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Quote:6ix, you sure are over-impressed with yourself. Mankind spent the first 300,000 years being impressed with itself and had nothing to show for all those hundreds of thousands of years of leisure time. Anthropologists know how mankind once lived because there are places where they still live that way -- I call them Islands of the Super Lazy, where people die young, which is what all mankind has been doing for most of history, except for the last few hundred years.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. The point isn't that I need to. The point is that I can.
https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2021/10/stories-of-wealth-and-di
stribution.html
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you sure are over-impressed with yourself. Mankind spent the first 300,000 years being impressed with itself and had nothing to show for all those hundreds of thousands of years of leisure time. Anthropologists know how mankind once lived because there are places where they still live that way -- I call them Islands of the Super Lazy, where people die young, which is what all mankind has been doing for most of history, except for the last few hundred years.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. The point isn't that I need to. The point is that I can.
I don't put much value on money. I certainly don't go out of my way to acquire more than I need.
You seem really hung up on that. This sounds like a YOU problem.
Just like I said that I don't need to live off of $4500 per year, but I can, I'm also extremely far from lazy as well.
I do what I enjoy doing. Some days that is more or less nothing. Most days I'm investing by working on my house with stuff I've bought on sale (sometimes even lucking into damn-near-free), or working on my hobbies, or helping other people out. None of my activities are ever going to make me rich. Some will make me money down the road. Some plant obs on other people which will be paid back one day. A lot of it won't ever make me any money at all. But whatever it is that I'm doing (or not doing), I'm rarely found doing anything that I don't enjoy doing these days.
And probably most importantly, none of the money I make is from taking advantage of anybody else... whether that be from scamming people directly, or making money off the backs of other people's work via the stock market.
You sound like a bad guy right now, Second.
Just figured I'd fill you in on that since you're so clueless about yourself.
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Political thinker, teacher and writer Hannah Arendt said the ideal subjects of totalitarian rule were people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction and between true and false no longer existed.
“Hannah Arendt talks about vulgarity and totalitarianism, that the way that leaders speak changes people’s – I won’t hesitate to say it – souls. It changes what people think is right and wrong, acceptable, unacceptable. And that does damage. It really does hurt the society.”
A key point that both Putin and Trump share is that when they lie they never apologize. “They never acknowledge that they’ve made mistakes or lie because they don’t believe that there is actually a truth out there. It is not just a habit. It’s a policy to try to crowd factuality out of the public sphere. You lie all the time. You call the journalists the liars and then it’s in that confusion that you govern. Because if people don’t believe that there is truth, they think they’re cynical, they think they’re sophisticated but in fact they’re completely impotent. Because without truth or without facts we can’t co-operate, we can’t have civil society, we can’t have opposition, we can’t have resistance. Without trust we can’t have the rule of law.”
More at https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/how-putin-and-trump-have-eroded-
truth-and-rule-of-law-1.3275481
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