Faster Loading Politics
POSTED BY: ReeQueen
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 02:43
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Conservatives to the right of me. Liberals to the right of me - that's how far left I am.
The Stem Cell/Janet Jackson's Boobs thread has become waaaay too long. Sorry, but it has.
W is a moron. Discuss.
Gays deserve to get married, just like anyone else. Discuss.
Any other "us" vs. "them" argument welcome, tirades and screeding needed.
Threadjacking appreciated.
"He has a gorm horizon. All gorm that falls past it is lost forever." UserFriendly http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050114
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why do we only argue about politics?
why can't we ever argue about religion??
a friend of mine recently said to me:
"It's like what someone on lj said recently regarding all those people throwing the 'what would Jesus do' question:'
they rarely want the answer to be
"hang around with whores and lepers,
undermine the religious establishment
and get executed for inciting nationalist revolt".
or is it way too early for a thread hijacking?
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What would Jesus do?
Keep kosher.
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"Societies are supported by human activity, therefore they are constantly threatened by the human facts of self-intrest and stupidity." --Peter Berger
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Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
why can't we ever argue about religion??
Hasn't Religion become Politics?
Just saying.
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No, it's not too early for threadjacking.
Yes, religion has become politics. 
Unless and until religious wackaloons stop trying to force their moral and belief preferences down the throats of other people by trying to legislate the actions of everybody, religion is and will remain politicized.
My e-mail has been nuked, so until I get it all nicely functional again, I can't be notified of answers. See screed on my log....
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Of course religion is political. Duh. Both religion and politics are the study of 'right action' and how to encourage right action. Only politics is based in faith in rational action while religion depends upon some man/women/force in the sky to make things right. And both are the arenas of people to socially defecient (like me) to jus live their own lives without harassing others.
Thought that was an easy one.
-Eli
If voting mattered, they'd make it illegal.
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I don’t think that politics is always based on rational thought and I’m not sure religion is always based on god(s) to make things right. I think politics is often concerned with how to control a populus and I think religion gets a bad rap when it gets caught up in that political movement. Religion, by itself, is generally more concerned with individual morality. Dictators will often seek to (1) make themselves the religious leader or (2) eliminate religion completely, because the free exercise of religion is a threat to the politics. It creates ideas of morality independent of the politics and can therefore act as a counter weight to politics. Which is the reason why countries whose religious ideas are free and independent of politics are generally more liberal (meaning free) then other nations where religion is either the bases of government (Former Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Iran) or eliminated completely (Former Soviet Union, North Korea, China).
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Finn,
If you substitute government for politics in your post and I would say that we have com to an accord. A rare and momentus event. Societies that have a moral compass (or many moral compasses) that are separate from that of government, are able to better judge the value of government aims and goals and better limit the power of that government.
-Eli
If voting mattered, they'd make it illegal.
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I think one could probably substitute "government" with little loss to meaning. I was sort of going for more of a theoretical context, but perhaps "government" makes it clearer, less esoteric.
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I think one could probably substitute "government" with little loss to meaning. I was sort of going for more of a theoretical context, but perhaps "government" makes it clearer, less esoteric.
Finn, taking politics for government?
What would Sir Humphrey say?
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