I think I have delta
POSTED BY: dreamtrove
UPDATED: Monday, August 12, 2024 16:32
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DT, I think the explanation for vax+COVID is simple.
1) People just now getting a vax because they've heard about delta.
2) People are just now getting sick with COVID-19 because of delta.
Two things are now happening or more less simultaneously due to a third cause.
I have a couple of questions for you.
1) What do you make of all those people who caught COVID-19, with a socially significant number dying, before there was even a vax?
2) How will you adjust your thinking when an overwhelming number of vaccinated people survive the vax?
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
DT, I think the explanation for vax+COVID is simple.
1) People just now getting a vax because they've heard about delta.
2) People are just now getting sick with COVID-19 because of delta.
Two things are now happening or more less simultaneously due to a third cause.
I have a couple of questions for you.
1) What do you make of all those people who caught COVID-19, with a socially significant number dying, before there was even a vax?
2) How will you adjust your thinking when an overwhelming number of vaccinated people survive the vax?
I could be wrong about the vax, but at the moment I'm at one person i know died of covid 3 of vax, so I don't think "most people survive" is the measure, most people survive covid.
Viruses do not rapidly mutate on their own. if there is a new variant, then it's engineered, but it is probably related to the vaccine. If not, people going to get the vaccine are still coming back with it, I have to look at the data I see in reality
Vaccine proponents are at a credibility level that makes the planners of the iraq war look like the good humor man. That makes the vax seem less safe. The fact that they said they were going to scam people into accepting a pan-coronavirus vaccine before there was even an outbreak is suspicious. Every piece of it is incredibly suspicious
that said, despite my 100% certainty that the vax is a scam, it may have been an effective trap. Some people are probably better off with the vax than with the covid. like people over 65. But even if it's an effective vax, it's still very likely a scam because they likely set it up and released the pathogen themselves, at least, that's the direction 100% of credible evidence is leaning.
Here's my question: If it was a set up, and we just handed out a trillion dollars to people commiting bioterrorism on a global scale, what are the chances that it will happen again? I mean, it worked, and will the left ever admit they're wrong, or will they just fall for it repeatedly?
At the moment I have the horrid thing and trying to get rid of it and experiencing already zombification. If I'd gotten the vax maybe I wouldn't ahve this problem, but maybe I'd have other problems. IDK
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Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
DT, I think the explanation for vax+COVID is simple.
1) People just now getting a vax because they've heard about delta.
2) People are just now getting sick with COVID-19 because of delta.
Two things are now happening or more less simultaneously due to a third cause.
I have a couple of questions for you.
1) What do you make of all those people who caught COVID-19, with a socially significant number dying, before there was even a vax?
2) How will you adjust your thinking when an overwhelming number of vaccinated people survive the vax?
Quote:Your figures are only true if you assume your small circle of people is the only data that exists.
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
I could be wrong about the vax, but at the moment I'm at one person i know died of covid 3 of vax, so I don't think "most people survive" is the measure, most people survive covid.
Quote:One-stranded RNA viruses mutate a lot, because they aren't stabilized by a complementary strand, because the viruses don't have a template to repair from, and because they don't have copy-repair enzymes. For example, influenza viruses are also single-stranded RNA viruses, and they mutate all the time, so much so that new vaccines have to be created every year.
Viruses do not rapidly mutate on their own.
Quote:not true, see above
if there is a new variant, then it's engineered
Quote:not true, see above
but it is probably related to the vaccine
Quote:It's true SOME vaccinated people are infected with SARS-CoV-2 and spread the virus, but not everyone is.
If not, people going to get the vaccine are still coming back with it, I have to look at the data I see in reality
Quote:Some very prominent people are associated with the vax - specifically Fauci. If he wasn't in the equation, you might think differently.
Vaccine proponents are at a credibility level that makes the planners of the iraq war look like the good humor man.
Quote:Event201?
That makes the vax seem less safe. The fact that they
Quote:People were predicting Ebola would come to America, and then it did (mini outbreak in Dallas, TX). I hate to say it, but it doesn't take a genius to foresee these things. The Coming Plague was published in 1994.
said they were going to scam people into accepting a pan-coronavirus vaccine before there was even an outbreak is suspicious. Every piece of it is incredibly suspicious
Quote:Uhm ... if the virus is real and kills people, and the vax is real and overall helps people over 65 - and also those with other risk factors - then if the vax is better than the disease as you say, how is the vax a scam?
that said, despite my 100% certainty that the vax is a scam, it may have been an effective trap. Some people are probably better off with the vax than with the covid. like people over 65. But even if it's an effective vax, it's still very likely a scam because they likely set it up and released the pathogen themselves, at least, that's the direction 100% of credible evidence is leaning.
Quote:the **IF** you propose is a very big IF
Here's my question: If
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it was a set up, and we just handed out a trillion dollars to people committing bioterrorism on a global scale, what are the chances that it will happen again? I mean, it worked, and will the left ever admit they're wrong, or will they just fall for it rNOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Major update today. My doctor gave me a drug called Dexamethasone, a steroid antiinflammatory that my sister was given some years back.
I took half of one, no reaction. I waited and hour, took the second half, no reaction. Went downstairs had breakfast, sat down and started checking my messages.
Bam my heart rate shot from 60 to 180 in 60 seconds. Called 911. Everyone was useless. I lay on the floor shaking for 30 minutes. The HR has been going down 0.1 beats a minute or less. It's taken hours, and hours of me deliberately taking some herbal teas with EGCG boswellia and valerian. It still hasn't calmed down very much and is around 120. These are very high numbers.
This side effect was observed in the rat trials but then dismissed as not statistically significant in humans. Perhaps it's "If you've had covid" don't go near dexamethasone
This is right now so much a worse problem for me than covid. I'm not out of the woods on this, so I'm just posting to say I'm alive as of this pointing, but avoid the DEX if you've had covid
preloaded anti-skepticism, no I had taken nothing else. This is the only thing I've take, and it happened so fast, and here's the rat study. If someone gives you this for covid, I'd say not even "use with caution" I did use with caution. this is a flat out avoid.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S193317111830179
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22971929/
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How're you doing, DT?
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But does DEX have electrolytes?
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Both my husband and daughter were on dexamethasone, for different reasons. She was on it for 2 years and she had moon face and buffalo hump and belly fat and a few other side effects.
Hubby was on it for a week, but his muscles got so weak he couldn't walk, so his dr took him off dex and put him on a different steroid. Both steroids caused his blood sugar to shoot up.
Steroids come with lists of side effects longer than your arm, but not everyone will experience all of, or the same, side effects. You just have to try it and see.
Dexamethasone is an extremely powerful steroid. The only reason to use it, and not another steroid, is that it penetrates the blood-brain barrier, so it is (or was, anyway) used after brain surgery to reduce brain swelling.
Perhaps your doctor suspects brain inflammation* as well as body-wide inflammation.
In any case, you apparently had a bad reaction to dexamethasone. Some people do. But I wouldn't turn that into a universal prohibition against dexamethasone, as it can be a very useful drug.
It sounds to me like you have had a problem with your heart rate BEFORE dexamethasone and BEFORE Covid. Having gone thru that myself, CAUSED BY RARE REACTION TO A GENERALLY WELL-TOLERATED SUPPLEMENT (SAM-E), you should look over your supplements to make sure that you aren't pre-disposing yourself to high heart rate.
There are several causes of high heart rate, I learned from the cardiologist. The most common are dehydration/electrolyte imbalance (low sodium), and fever..
But some causes originate in your heart's natural "pacemaker", a bundle of nerves in the upper part of your heart that fires to start each heartbeat. SOME people's "pacemaker" is sensitive to extra adrenaline floating around, and it may fire too frequently. You're under stress. You're prolly pumping out adrenaline now. If you have a twitchy "pacemaker", or it is being made twitchy by illness, stress, or supplements ... well, there are medicines for that. BUT YOU SHOULD BE SEEN BY A CARDIOLOGIST TO HAVE THAT SORTED OUT if you have high heart rate frequently, assuming that you aren't dehydrated or short of electrolytes.
In my case, I was told my heart was working great, it was just my pacemaker that was fucking up. I was prescribed metoprolol, which reduces the effect of adrenaline, but I never took it. I just waited another (very uncomfortable) month for the effects of SAM-E to wear off, which it did, eventually.
*Brain immunity and body immunity are usually separated by the blood/brain barrier and are two different things; so using steroids to reduce inflammation in the body generally shouldn't reach the brain if the blood/brain barrier is intact.
SEE A CARDIOLOGIST FOR FREQUENT HIGH HEART RATE, ASSUMING THAT YOU ARE NOT DEHYDRATED OR LOW ON ELECTROLYTES.
You need to take practical steps to troubleshoot your own health, and you also need to know when to call in the troops... or somebody else needs to know when to call in the troops for you, bc sick people generally are NOT the best judge of what's going on.
If you have a friend with a practical bent, and they are medically savvy, I would rely on them. If not, you need to rely in your family doctor.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Hey DT - how're ya doin'?
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Drama Queen's fine.
He's certainly not going to be the first person in the world to die from Covid.
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lol
DT's going to love this one.
Psaki is a fucking idiot.
Loud and clear messaging for sure, Diversity Hire.
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