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I think I have delta

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Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:40 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've bought into a lot of conspiracy theories in my life.

I refuse to believe that they've figured out a way to make all the doctors or nurses evil and/or duped them into killing patients en-masse without knowing about it.

You sound like a crazy person, DT. And coming from me that is saying a lot.



You did not read what I wrote. You're just reiterating your last post, which already misread what I had written

I never said all doctors were evil or killing people. I said the NWO has designed a system where 1% bad apples will do the job for them, and the system moves them around so quickly no one notices, or if they do, they only know to hate that person, but then they never see them again.

you can be quick here or you can be dead. decide soon, because time's up



I read it. And I'll reiterate my post a third time.

In order for these Grim Reapers to work, they'd have to be killing people under the watch of a lot of decent folk that just go home at night knowing somebody is killing people somehow even though they came in with a stubbed toe and there's no way they should have died.

You're on a train to Crazyville brother.

I don't like arguing with you about this because we should be on the same side.

But I can't follow you to where you're going, and when you say stuff like this you make anybody else who won't get vaccinated sound less credible.

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Sunday, August 22, 2021 8:47 AM

The only "side to be on is the side of reality.

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Sunday, August 22, 2021 8:55 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The only "side to be on is the side of reality.



If you haven't noticed, there are two "realities" running in parallel in the Legacy Media.

I don't subscribe to either of them.

I don't know what's in the vaccine, but you and Kiki don't either.

I don't need it. I'm not going to get it.


But I'm also not going to run around telling everyone that anybody who goes to the doctor is going to be murdered either. Even though I'd like to have an ally here on the unvaccinated front, I'm calling out crazy talk.

Yanno... something that Second and Ted and JO never did when the Roomba was telling people to kill themselves three times a day.

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Sunday, August 22, 2021 9:04 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You're on a train to Crazyville brother.



No, I'm not. I'm living the nightmare, watched this all happen close up for years. The manipulators do an expert shuffle of the reapers. The people in the hospital almost never realize there's a reaper conspiracy, and if they do, they're fired. I've watched people get fired for this. Most of the time, when the workers catch on to the reapers, they think they've found the one reaper, report him and he disappears to some other hospital. But they keep all the healthcare workers so incredibly busy that they're always worried about what they have to do in the next fifteen seconds, for 15 hours a day, and so they never have time to deal with the shuffling around of staff. Most people are not conspiracy theorists so it never occurs to them that the staff shuffle is enabling serial killers

I have spent a decent portion of the last decade I was (largely) no here for, dealing with this. So no, it's not a whacked out theory I'm about to cave because I don't get it. I spent years in hospitals seeing this in action. I very much am very sure that I do get it, even if 99% of the world doesn't get it. And some people in the machine get it, and then they get kicked out the door as soon at their report of it reaches the top level. Oh know, Dr. Johnson is cRaZy, just like you're saying now about me. It sounds crazy. And it is crazy. But it's not a crazy delusion. It's a crazy reality.


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While I generally agree, I've noticed it's not necessarily so. I've seen a lot of survival cults doing very well at the moment because they live in delusional fantasy land and consume no mainstream media, and so are not injecting themselves with a bioweapon, or sacrificing their children to hitler, or engaging in suisociety in any way. Delusional fantasy cult survives this apocalypse, as do its children. It's more important to be a survivor than based in reality, because evolution will favor the survivors, no matter what they believe.

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Sunday, August 22, 2021 10:02 PM

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SIGNYM:
The only "side to be on is the side of reality.

SIX: If you haven't noticed, there are two "realities" running in parallel in the Legacy Media.

I'm talking about the REAL reality, SIX, not the media's lies. There IS a real reality out there, yanno. The one that runs you over like a truck that you didn't see coming, even if you deny its existance.

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SIX: I don't subscribe to either of them.
Neither do I, you might have noticed. But you subscribe to fear-mongering alt media.

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SIX: I don't know what's in the vaccine,

Well, maybe you should LEARN SOMETHING. I don't know why you're so resistant to learning about biology and biochemistry. Yes, it's complicated, but it's not THAT complicated. You've learned a lot more complicated stuff about fixing cars and drainage problems, haven't you?

Probably you think all knowledge on the topic is tainted by now. But there is knowledge that predates Covid-19 that you can acccess. And you can tell that it's true knowledge, not ideology, because -unlike ideology - it works in the real world.

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SIX: but you and Kiki don't either.
Well, I have a much better idea than you do because I've made a point to learn about it. So I know it contains the "instruction set" (mRNA) for the mitochndria to make spike protein, but that there are LOTS of other parts of viruses besides that, and that the mRNA is only a small fraction of the entire viral nucleic acid sequence. Along the way I've learned about "open frame reading" and retroviruses and polymerase chain reaction and a whole bunch of stuff I didn't know before.

My best early source - and one I would refer you to- was Chris Martenson. Yes, he was agitated about the virus, but he also explained in great detail about its sequence, what made THIS virus (down to the couple dozen or so inserted nucleic acids) so very different from its closest family members. The particular insertion makes docking onto human cells much more efficient. BTW they have sequenced a lot of viruses from animal sources trying to find the origin, and they can't. (That's what put the idea in my head that this was engineered.) Neither its sequence, nor the sequence of related viruses, is a secret. That's how people can tell whether there's an overlap with syncytin or not (NOT).

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SIX: I don't need it.
Knowledge is ALWAYS useful.

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SIX: I'm not going to get it.
You probably don't need it. That's your prerogative.

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SIX: But I'm also not going to run around telling everyone that anybody who goes to the doctor is going to be murdered either.
But you DO run around, shouting on the one hand that the virus is "nothing" and at the same time that the vaccine - a fraction of the virus- is a killer.

Yours is the same logic that says that bitter geopolitical enemies and competing commercial interests are ALL going to suddenly dive headlong into a world-straddling conspiracy to depopulate the globe ... including their own people. It's the same bad logic, just on a bigger scale.



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SIX: Even though I'd like to have an ally here on the unvaccinated front, I'm calling out crazy talk.
OK.

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SIX: Yanno... something that Second and Ted and JO never did when the Roomba was telling people to kill themselves three times a day.
True.
Your moral compass isn't bent.
Theirs is.

You sometimes like to reduce things to their logical opposites: Either the vaccine works or it doesn't, and in either case I don't need it.

That's not always true. Sometimes, in THIS case, the vaccine works- sort of. Now, in THIS case the vaccine does enough to protect the vaccinated, and not enough to prevent its spread, that it's useful for the target population but not the source population. So, if you catch Covid - especially the delta variant - you will

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Monday, August 23, 2021 12:38 AM

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SIGNYM:
The only "side to be on is the side of reality.

SIX: If you haven't noticed, there are two "realities" running in parallel in the Legacy Media.

I'm talking about the REAL reality, SIX, not the media's lies. There IS a real reality out there, yanno. The one that runs you over like a truck that you didn't see coming, even if you deny its existance.



Well... What is the "real" reality? Your reality is different than mine. Mine is different than Seconds. Second's is different than JO's. JO's is different than Kiki's. Kiki's is different than Ted's. Ted's is different than DT's. DT's is different than yours.

I don't need you to tell me what you think reality is.

The only certainty in our shared reality is death and taxes. Everything else is sus.

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SIX: I don't subscribe to either of them.
Neither do I, you might have noticed. But you subscribe to fear-mongering alt media.



I post troll videos by Memology 101. That's not evidence of the sentence that you just said. You're the one who posts dubious sources like zerohedge all the time. Careful with those stones you're throwing from your glass house.

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SIX: I don't know what's in the vaccine,

Well, maybe you should LEARN SOMETHING. I don't know why you're so resistant to learning about biology and biochemistry. Yes, it's complicated, but it's not THAT complicated. You've learned a lot more complicated stuff about fixing cars and drainage problems, haven't you?



Yup. But that's actually useful knowledge that is applicable everywhere and makes my life better.

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Probably you think all knowledge on the topic is tainted by now. But there is knowledge that predates Covid-19 that you can acccess. And you can tell that it's true knowledge, not ideology, because -unlike ideology - it works in the real world.


It was all tainted before Covid. The highly-educated gate keepers write all the books. That shit might as well be magic to the other 99.9% of us. I don't need to read any of their lies and barely-truths.

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SIX: but you and Kiki don't either.
Well, I have a much better idea than you do because I've made a point to learn about it. So I know it contains the "instruction set" (mRNA) for the mitochndria to make spike protein, but that there are LOTS of other parts of viruses besides that, and that the mRNA is only a small fraction of the entire viral nucleic acid sequence. Along the way I've learned about "open frame reading" and retroviruses and polymerase chain reaction and a whole bunch of stuff I didn't know before.



You've read more bullshit than I have. That much is certain.

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My best early source - and one I would refer you to- was Chris Martenson. Yes, he was agitated about the virus, but he also explained in great detail about its sequence, what made THIS virus (down to the couple dozen or so inserted nucleic acids) so very different from its closest family members. The particular insertion makes docking onto human cells much more efficient. BTW they have sequenced a lot of viruses from animal sources trying to find the origin, and they can't. (That's what put the idea in my head that this was engineered.) Neither its sequence, nor the sequence of related viruses, is a secret. That's how people can tell whether there's an overlap with syncytin or not (NOT).


I can name at least 3 people on this board who would tell you that Chris Martenson is alt-media and not to be trusted. Not saying that I think that, but just reiterating my point about malleable reality above.

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SIX: I don't need it.
Knowledge is ALWAYS useful.



I'm referring to the vaccine.

There is zero benefit from me wasting any time reading ab

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Monday, August 23, 2021 1:51 AM

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SIGNYM:
The only "side to be on is the side of reality.

SIX: If you haven't noticed, there are two "realities" running in parallel in the Legacy Media.

SIGNY: I'm talking about the REAL reality, SIX, not the media's lies. There IS a real reality out there, yanno. The one that runs you over like a truck that you didn't see coming, even if you deny its existance.

SIX: Well... What is the "real" reality? Your reality is different than mine. Mine is different than Seconds. Second's is different than JO's. JO's is different than Kiki's. Kiki's is different than Ted's. Ted's is different than DT's. DT's is different than yours.
I don't need you to tell me what you think reality is.
The only certainty in our shared reality is death and taxes. Everything else is sus.

But we all live in the same world, the same causes have the same effects. Our situations are certainly different, we are different sexes and ages and health situations and live in different places with different access to resources but, as a matter of survival, we should all appreciate that nature doesn't bend to our opinions.

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SIX: I don't subscribe to either of them.

SIGNY: Neither do I, you might have noticed. But you subscribe to fear-mongering alt media.

SIX: I post troll videos by Memology 101. That's not evidence of the sentence that you just said. You're the one who posts dubious sources like zerohedge all the time. Careful with those stones you're throwing from your glass house.

Have you ever BOTHERED to validate anything that I posted? Of course not! So people who don't bother to validate anything shouldn't be throwing stones about "dubious sources".

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SIX: I don't know what's in the vaccine,

SIGNY: Well, maybe you should LEARN SOMETHING. I don't know why you're so resistant to learning about biology and biochemistry. Yes, it's complicated, but it's not THAT complicated. You've learned a lot more complicated stuff about fixing cars and drainage problems, haven't you?

SIX: Yup. But that's actually useful knowledge that is applicable everywhere and makes my life better.

Well, maybe knowing something about biology would help you manage your health better, hmmm....???

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SIGNY: Probably you think all knowledge on the topic is tainted by now. But there is knowledge that predates Covid-19 that you can acccess. And you can tell that it's true knowledge, not ideology, because -unlike ideology - it works in the real world.

SIX: It was all tainted before Covid. The highly-educated gate keepers write all the books. That shit might as well be magic to the other 99.9% of us. I don't need to read any of their lies and barely-truths.

It's only like magic if you refuse to figure it out.

Physics is like magic but light switches work, right? Chemistry is like magic, but you use paints and paint strippers, right? Biology is like magic but you use weed sprays and antibiotics (when necessary), right?

That is how you separate real knowledge from bullshit: it works in the real world.

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SIX: but you and Kiki don't either.

SIGNY: Well, I have a much better idea than you do because I've made a point to learn about it. So I know it contains the "instruction set" (mRNA) for the mitochndria to make spike protein, but that there are LOTS of other parts of viruses besides that, and that the mRNA is only a small fraction of the entire viral nucleic acid sequence. Along the way I've learned about "open frame reading" and retroviruses and polymerase chain reaction and a whole bunch of stuff I didn't know before.

SIX: You've read more bullshit than I have. That much is certain.

You seem to think that bc you didn't have the sitzfleisch (literally, "sitting flesh"- the focus and willingness to do something difficult) to learn in college,

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Monday, August 23, 2021 2:51 AM

BTW- DT: It is COMMON KNOWLEDGE that vaccinated people CAN become infected and develop high viral loads ... high enough to shed viruses and infect others.

So you may have gotten infected by someone who was vaccinated.

Just take it easy, and please, please, please call in the troops if you become critically ill. Also, realize that sick people don't think well, so maybe have someone check in on you every day, by phone if nothing else, to assess how you're doing.

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Monday, August 23, 2021 2:51 AM


I have the virus right now, it's definitely not nothing. But every part of the DNA in this virus was patented. It's a bioweapon. It was offshored to China because US regulators came down on the bioweapon violation. Sure Treaties are difficult to enforce but US law is not. So they moved to China. Tony Fauci himself went to Wuhan to head coronavirus research. All coronaviruses are bioweapons. All of these are details in those videos which none of the fact checkers deny because they're all matters of public record.

Fact checks own their own sources. The same company hires the article that the fact check they own references? Isn't that conflict of interest? So the Vaccine is not a vaccine, it's a bioweapon, a patented bioweapon, patented as a bioweapon because the US patent office would not allow a patent as a vaccine because it is not a vaccine. And this vaccine was invented before the corona "outbreak" was "discovered." All of these details are also those videos which the fact checkers also don't deny because they're all matters of public record.

You see where this is going? There are two narratives here. One, the narrative of "conspiracy theorists" who were identified as "conspiracy theorists" by the perpetrators before the crime was even perpetrated, and the narrative of the bioterrorists who were stopped from developing their bioterrorism in the united states because the US govt called it "bioterrorism." So they moved it to china, and it's still bioterrorism. They invented the coronavirus and the "vaccine" to unleash unto the public with the stated goal of forcing everyone to take a vaccine that was not a vaccine but in fact a patented, now chinese, bioweapon, that had "no provable health benefit" according to the US govt. and their intended state end is to cement world power and profit. Profit, of course, necessary to fund the agenda. Non-profitable global domination schemes like the USSR and Nazi Germany always go bankrupt, because there's no money in it.

So, there you have it, once again, all those details are in the videos and not disputed by fact checkers of the fact checking companies who admit admit they own both the fact check sites and the citations they use, meaning, they're utterly useless single source self referencing lying machines. And yet, they still don't even bother to deny any of this. If you haven't watched the video I posted in Game Over and Plandemic I + II, then do so. there's information in those videos, even if you don't like their opinions.

But in the end, it's not subjective. There are two sides. Corporate Bioterrorists, and Conspiracy Theorists. The law calls them bioterrorists, they, the corpoartions call their detractors conspiracy theorists.

Basically no one is a "vaccine hesitant" that's a mainstream media term. People are at "NFW"

So, if you are anti-vax, you are a conspiracy theorist and you listen to misinformation and disinformation.
If you are pro vax, you're a bioterrorist, you listen to fact checkers, corporations and communist regimes.

Personally, I don't like labelling a movement as anti- because they always lose, people hate negativity. But I want to be anti-nazi, so I just have to rephrase it like Frank Luntz. But for now, this is what we have

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Monday, August 23, 2021 2:57 AM

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BTW- DT: It is COMMON KNOWLEDGE that vaccinated people CAN become infected and develop high viral loads ... high enough to shed viruses and infect others.

So you may have gotten infected by someone who was vaccinated.

Just take it easy, and please, please, please call in the troops if you become critically ill. Also, realize that sick people don't think well, so maybe have someone check in on you every day, by phone if nothing else, to assess how you're doing.

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back to topic, yes, I'm sure that's what happened. The virus turns out not to be a respiratory virus, but rather an infectious endothelial disease. It causes a cough from the inside. This sheds some doubt on the idea that it's an airborne pathogen. This increases the chance that the guy I think as the patient zero is not in fact patient zero here but rather some food was to blame, because we could injest it, then it gets into the blood causes the cough later. I don't have the cough but one of the others does, and it's a very covid cough.

Btw, the fact that the vaccine seems to make you an automatic carrier bears out on everything I've seen from both sides, that makes it a terrible vaccine, except it's not a vaccine, it's a bioweapon, because it was only patentable as a bioweapon, not as a vaccine, so they have to accept its legal definition.

The fact that the narrative calls it a vaccine will put a permanent end to the vaccine industry. I mean, every once in a while, people suggest gas chamber based treatments, as an alternative to infusion labs, and it always auto fails because it has gas chamber in it. This vaccine could be 1000x the holocaust. No vaccine will ever have a chance again. The person who says the word probably just gets shot on sight after this. We're headed to a post-vax society that is going to resemble mad max much more than it resembles what came before.

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