I think I have delta
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Quote:I never had vax. The 2nd time, the mi9ld time, my coworkers got tested and confirmed they had covid. Most of them refused to get vaxxed. The first time, there was no test.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I had Covid in Nov 2019 and agtain at Christmas 2020.
The first time was the sickest I've been in my life, lost about 20 pounds. 2nd time much more mild, but it seems much more contagious. I didn't know I had it again until after everybody else got it. And I don't know where the 2nd round came from.
I would be tempted not to buy into the narrative. The one thing I'm about 100% sure of at the moment is that the media is lying. Meaning, you cannot, generally, logically, have the same cold twice. They're not virulent enough to hide in the system and resurface and you're immune the second time.
I'd be tempted to assume the second was a separate virus. Did you get the vax?
I dismissed the idea of a rapidly mutating virus because I know that's not how viruses work, viruses are evolved to be hyper efficient, not hyper flexible, and flexibility is something you have to sacrifice in genetics if you want efficiency. That said, if it's a bioweapon they could have engineered multiple strains.
I'm aware there are wild type viruses and that all the virus paranoia has meant we haven't gotten them for a couple of years. Of course 99% of these are not coronaviruses.
My entire year has been overshadowed from everyone I know dying from obvious and blatant medical malpractice which just kind of makes one forget about natural threats.
I assume this is biowarfare at this point, but regular threats still exist. I say this because a hyper contagious bioweapon would wreck everyone's day. So if that's what's going on, we have to know.
There's been nothing hype contagious here, except maybe this heart virus I have. But it doesn't seem to come with any respiratory symptoms so I wrote it off as not covid from the start. maybe vax vector, but I'm doubting that now. The vax vector contagions have only 0.001% chance of heart infection and everyone had this problem. I mean, if you can trust information sources. Probably some virus the guy picked up when he got the shot.
Nov 2019, in china? or had it already spread? It's also possible the second was covid and the first was some wild type coronavirus.
I have to admit I was enjoying not getting sick for a year and a half because of everyone's health paranoia.
I'm interested what you think, I was just going with the available info. I have never been tested.
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I'm incredibly sick right now. I think you only can get covid from a medical establishment but i could be wrong.
the test is and has always been completely bogus. Those tests take a decade to develop. they have a test for 2002 sars antibodies and that's what they've been giving people. there's no test for covid. It's just not possible to make an accurate test in a year, or in four days which is how long they claim it took them to develop
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
My entire year has been overshadowed from everyone I know dying from obvious and blatant medical malpractice which just kind of makes one forget about natural threats.
Dying of this thing?
That sucks. I don't know a single person who's died of it.
In fact, the only person I've come into contact with who even claimed to have had it at any point was the guy who fucked up my gutter install last year and that was one of the 3 excuses he used not to come out and fix it before I stopped bothering.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dying of this thing?
That sucks. I don't know a single person who's died of it.
In fact, the only person I've come into contact with who even claimed to have had it at any point was the guy who fucked up my gutter install last year and that was one of the 3 excuses he used not to come out and fix it before I stopped bothering.
I don't have covid. I'm pretty sure at this point I don't have delta. I have some heart virus. I hope it's not the prion thing.
I do know one person who died of covid. to be fair, he was 80. Now maybe it was some other flu, who knows. But maybe it was the bioweapon version 1, and the vax is just bioweapon version 2 because version 1 wasn't deadly enough. I mean, seven golden vials give them a lot of chances.
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Quote:What I read is that, being single-stranded RNA, corona viruses do mutate far more often. That's because their RNA structure isn't stablized by a second strand.
DREAMTROVE: I would be tempted not to buy into the narrative. The one thing I'm about 100% sure of at the moment is that the media is lying. Meaning, you cannot, generally, logically, have the same cold twice. They're not virulent enough to hide in the system and resurface and you're immune the second time.
I'd be tempted to assume the second was a separate virus. Did you get the vax?
I dismissed the idea of a rapidly mutating virus because I know that's not how viruses work, viruses are evolved to be hyper efficient, not hyper flexible, and flexibility is something you have to sacrifice in genetics if you want efficiency. That said, if it's a bioweapon they could have engineered multiple strains.
How are your Osats? OK?
Any other symptoms?
Fever?
Chills?
Body aches?
Sore throat?
Any heart sensations besides fast heart rate? Skipping beats? Taking extra-hard THUMPS? Pressure in your throat? Feeling like you can't catch your breath? Irregular beat?
If the main symptom is fast heart rate ... well, there are a zillion reasons how that can happen.
A common one is fever: heart rate naturally goes up with fever.
Another is dehydration. Again, heart rate naturally goes up ... yes, up to 110-120 bpm- from dehydration.
Another common cause is anxiety attacks. If you're sick with something and it drives up your heart rate, you might become hyper-aware of your heart rate and then it goes up even more.
Caffeine or herbal supplements can make heart rate go crazy: I was taking SAM-e for about a month and it was doing GREAT for my arthritis, but all of the sudden my heart was doing the rhumba, not the foxtrot. Skipped beats, pressure at the base of my throat, like a burp that wuldn't come up, feeling momentarily "unplugged" when skipped beats (actually, premature atrial contractions). MOST uncomfortable!
Another common reason is mitral valve prolapse, which causes a "fluttering" heartbeat AND a feeling of anxiety!
And then, of course, if a lot of pple around you are sick with Covid-19, you could have an unusual presentation.
It pays to be very specific when describing your symptoms to a doctor:
What are they?
How do they feel?
Do they occur usually in one situation but not another? (for example, people with run-of-the-mill viruses tend to get worse in the evening, people wth heart failure feel worse in the heat.)
What makes it worse?
What makes it better?
We're not doctors here, but maybe if you clarify for yourself (and us) we can come up with some ideas.
But if your OSATS are less than 94 OR your heartrate is routinely over 120, I think you should really, really, see a doctor. And be cautious wth herbals ... they're not always beneficial, as I found out!
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He's not going to give his symptoms to a doctor.
He's convinced that if he goes to the doctor that they're going to kill him.
Not sure why he's jumping straight to a heart disease though when diagnosing himself. That fuckin' WebMD site has probably killed more people from stress than it's ever helped.
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When people get sick and self-dx, they often jump to the diease(s) that they're most afraid of. And bc they're afraid, they don't want to have their fears confirmed by anyone.
But I've always found it helpful to address those fears head-on because more than 9 times out of 10, it's not what you think it is. Usually, it's not as bad as you fear. Somtimes, it's worse, but then at least you're doing something about it.
When my heart was really giving me concern, my mind got stuck on "congestive heart failure" bc arrythmias are "a" symptom of heart failure. And despite the fact that (1) I didn't have other symptoms of heart failure (my MIL, who lived with us, had CHF) and (2) I knew that it usually didn't come on suddenly and (3) there were several more likely explanations for PACs and (4) I already had a sneaking suspicion it was the supplement I had just recently started ...
.... I just couldn't unstick my mind from that fear. So they ran a bunch of tests, said my heart was working just fine, it was the "pacemaker" in the heart that had gotten irritable, and gave me some meds to calm it down. But when they said that the Rx made the heart pacemaker less susceptible to adrenaline, something clicked for me bc the supplement I was taking jacked up a whole bunch of neurotransmitters and hormones as a side effect, including adrenaline. Hmmm... So as uncomfortable as I felt, I decided not to take the meds and just tough out the symptoms. It took over two months for the supplement to wash out, but eventually it did. so even if somene chooses NOT to take the prescribed Rx, at least you know what it is.
And unfortunately for the medical profession, they're often called on to cure the incurable, like cancer or Parkinson's or rheumatoid arthritis, so they get tarred with a lot of bad associations. People expect too much of them (maybe bc the media portrays them as heroic life-savers) and when they can't deliver everyone assumes they did something wrong. But, yanno, we all have to die sometime, and the medical profession can't prevent that forever.
Anyway, DT, I hope you take some comfort from my story. Thru all of the medical crises that my family has lived thru - and there have been a lot, three of them ending in death - I've learned not to live in fearful denial, and also not to go borrowing trouble from the future bc it will come to you soon enough.
Do what you need to do to face whatever is going on and rid your mind of its fears.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
When people get sick and self-dx, they often jump to the diease(s) that they're most afraid of. And bc they're afraid, they don't want to have their fears confirmed by anyone.
Fair enough
On the other hand, to be completely fair, we're at "everyone officially diagnosed with anything dies" so no living person will ever have an official diagnosis again. And I'm at gf with gallstone, dad had infected stubbed toe, mom with hairline hip fracture, and dozens of other people in town with similar stories.
02 dip sometimes to 90, but is usually 95 to 97, which is lower than normal
fever and shakes sometimes, headache sometimes. More notably
fast heart rate
incredible weakness even when heart rate is normal
no respiratory symptoms at all
no digestive symptoms
no soar throat
limp noodle when it gets really bad
so all circulation blood heart symptoms
not effectively pumping is the most logical connection
did not go to webmd or similar sites no
why coxsackie virus? it causes all of these symptoms, is contagious and very common. I have to bear in mind that my employees also got it from one casual visit of an infected, and at least one shares my symptoms exactly, so it shouldn't be any 0.01% experience this. it has to be some 90% experience this, just on statistical odds.
Sig
I had a similar story once. I have underlying heart arrhythmia, and so I took a supplement for it, and arrhythmia got much worse, took me a little while to figure out it was the supplement. why idk. the supplement was chrysin, it lowered my heart rate but it strengthened the vagal afib pulses like 100x
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You see, I'm of the mind that there is enough centralized control where they're able to lie about numbers and fudge statistics to make the beer bug come off as much more dangerous than it actually was... money being the motivating factor for most of the people in the equation.
This I'm convinced of.
I can even take that in my mind to a possibility that it was all done to get billions of people to inject shit in their veins that (as far as we know) is untested, but possibly is a slow-acting bio-weapon itself... slow enough that people won't know for years that they made a mistake, and slow enough for most of the governments of the world to coerce and/or force the vast majority of their population to take it... fear being the motivating factor for most of the people in the equation.
This is a possibility. But I'm not convinced. And I really hope it's not the case. But man... are they pushing hard.
(And if I'm willing to even entertain that 2nd paragraph, I also have to be willing to entertain the equal and opposite. It could also be possible that once THEY have decided enough time has passed, they'll just unleash Beerbug 2.0 that will kill off 100% of everyone who refused the vaccination.
What better way to near-instantly eliminate anybody who wasn't easily corralled and wouldn't bend knee and kiss the ring?
The motivation there doesn't need to be restated.)
All of those scenarios are possible with only a few key decision makers who are sociopaths actually knowing the evil that is taking place.
Most importantly though, no matter what happens, it would be downright impossible to ever get the truth for any of it to come out. Even if it did, most people wouldn't believe it anyhow, and the Legacy Media would just tell the remaining people that it was all a conspiracy theory.
Claiming that anybody who goes to the hospital or the doctor now ends up getting murdered is where I draw the line.
What you're talking about is en-mass evil, down to the individual level, and it would require every medical professional to have knowingly and willingly given up their oath and become mass murderers to happen.
What is the motivation for that? To what benefit would that even be for them?
Money? I'm sure some would do it for money, but a very, very, very small amount of them. There would be new whistleblowers every day.
A promise that they and their family will be safe, given to them by the MIB behind closed doors? Every doctor and nurse in the entire country and/or world getting these visits? What about single professionals who have no loved ones they care about? Just kill them too and call it beer bug?
That seems like a pretty lousy plan that could easily fall apart. Far, far too many variables and chances that it could blow up in their face.
Don't let your paranoia go so deep off the crazy train that you end up killing yourself by not getting a legitimate heart problem taken care of.
Just make sure that nobody gives you the poke, and don't let them knock you out with anything.
Save yourself.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You see, I'm of the mind that there is enough centralized control where they're able to lie about numbers and fudge statistics to make the beer bug come off as much more dangerous than it actually was... money being the motivating factor for most of the people in the equation.
This I'm convinced of.
You and siggie both. I'll join you in thatQuote:
This is a possibility. But I'm not convinced. And I really hope it's not the case. But man... are they pushing hard.
How hard they push on the everyone must get vaccinated against all logic makes it seriously look like an agenda. The pharmaceutical companies have started supplying vaxes to the third world at cost, and that cancels out the profit motive, because it must cost them money to make these secret deals and pressure everyone, and also logistics of giving out the vaccines.Quote:
(And if I'm willing to even entertain that 2nd paragraph, I also have to be willing to entertain the equal and opposite. It could also be possible that once THEY have decided enough time has passed, they'll just unleash Beerbug 2.0 that will kill off 100% of everyone who refused the vaccination.
sure, some smallpox variantQuote:
Most importantly though, no matter what happens, it would be downright impossible to ever get the truth for any of it to come out. Even if it did, most people wouldn't believe it anyhow, and the Legacy Media would just tell the remaining people that it was all a conspiracy theory.
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Claiming that anybody who goes to the hospital or the doctor now ends up getting murdered is where I draw the line.
What you're talking about is en-mass evil, down to the individual level, and it would require every medical professional to have knowingly and willingly given up their oath and become mass murderers to happen.
What is the motivation for that? To what benefit would that even be for them?
Money? I'm sure some would do it for money, but a very, very, very small amount of them. There would be new whistleblowers every day.
Several things
1) Here's the way i think the NWO works.
There are masses of sheeple doing the right thing. and a small elite 2% of SJWs being evil.
2) that leaves millions of SJWs, but inside that community, it's millions of people trying to do the right thing and maybe 50,000 academics manipulating them to do evil
3) inside that community is tens of thousands of academics trying to do the right thing and a few hundred to a few thousand manipulating them into doing evil
For this hierarchy to work, the manipulators think they're fighting a fight for the right thing. One a small handful of guys need to know what the agenda is, and is capable of manipulating people into manipulating people
Now, take how healthcare was restructured with Obamacare
First, the hippocratic oath went out the window. no legal binding. you can hard patients
Second, the doctor shuffle. In the old days of the 20th century, you went to a physician, he worked for a hospital, and he was the guy they had who knew that stuff.
Now you go to a hospital and you see a hospitalist who works for a hospitalist association that is a small LLC owned by an insurance company. These guys are shuffled around every three days. If you're in a hospital, you might see a doctor every day. You could see 100 doctors in one visit if you're there for three months.
Now, the bad apples. The move to merge pharmacies and hospitals, with hospitalist associations. This means a random doc that no one will ever see again comes in and has full access to unlimited drugs.
I've read two stories recently about doctors intentionally mutilating or paralyzing patients to feed a god complex. Genuinely evil people. Also cocaine addicts.
So, I propose this model whereby in the last two years everyone I know who checked into a hospital with three except
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