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Taliban winning in Afghanistan

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Sunday, August 15, 2021 5:12 PM

Did this war have any real objective?

Looking across feeds and message boards, the Afghan failure has almost become an endless historical meme, its where Empires made their own Coffin

It looks like the entire country may fall to the Taliban very soon, at times there seesm to have been very little difference between Saudi jihadi backed wahhabism groups, Pakistani islamists, Al-Qaeda and Taliban almost brothers of sorts in this radical mohammedanism.

The Taliban enters Kabul, leaves Afghan government on brink of collapse
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142785364
Taliban militants have entered the outskirts of the capital Kabul
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3985152/posts#comment

The Taliban thanks you Joe for all the weapons you left them
https://www.liberalforum.org/topic/345524-the-taliban-thanks-you-joe-f
or-all-the-weapons-you-left-them-what-a-fucking-moron
/

Taliban 'take over Jalalabad' just 80 miles from Kabul and warn US to cease airstrikes or else extremist fighters will descend on the Afghan capital before 'more than 10,000' Americans are able to evacuate
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9894781/Taliban-takes-Jalalab
ad-warns-cease-airstrikes-descend-Kabul.html


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The Taliban seize last major city outside of Afghanistan's capital


https://www.cbc.ca/news/taliban-jalalabad-1.6141568

New equipment weapons?
https://gab.com/MorpheusMAGA/posts/106757824624147279

Kabul
https://www.bitchute.com/video/f6CR9GVmjENU/

Taliban control all key Afghan cities except Kabul
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58219169

As US Pulls Out, Taliban Moves in...Hard
https://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/143784-Afghanistan-As-US-Pulls-
Out-Taliban-Moves-in-Hard


Afghanistan Is in Freefall. America Must Punish Pakistan For Its Role.
https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/afghanistan-is-in-freefall-amer
ica-must-punish-pakistan-for-its-role.913454
/

Kabul is now officially a fortress
https://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&p=15185518#
p15185518


Taliban Seizes Massive Stash of US Weapons of War in Afghanistan Blitz
https://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/3294135-t
aliban-seizes-massive-stash-us-weapons-4.html


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The POTUS decides to be a chicken, pulls out of Afghanistan
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/the-potus-decides-to-be-a-chick
en-pulls-out-of-afghanistan.669399
/

Old Armchair roleplay speculation?
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/payday-cops-vs-taliban.318943/
India
https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/india-in-afghanistan-regional-di
plomacy-and-interests-after-us-withdrawal.82850/page-36

Pak military, Taliban unite against India
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Pak_military__Taliban_unite_agains
t_India/155-806607
/





Who will explain us how an army of 300.000 , well equipped , trained for 20 years by US Flag of United States lost in some weeks against Talibans ???

https://twitter.com/InfoWarriorNews/status/1426891788825022464



Old post asks about military intervention...
http://www.canadaka.net/forums/current-events-f59/was-western-military
-intervention-against-taliban-and-in-lib-t115301.html


The Afghanistan War
https://www.defencetalk.com/military/forums/t/afghanistan-war.13625/pa
ge-18


Afghanistan Army surrenders to Taliban
https://debatepolitics.com/threads/afghanistan-army-surrenders-to-tali
ban.453274
/





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Sunday, August 15, 2021 6:02 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Did this war have any real objective?

The objective was to find Osama bin Laden wherever he was hiding inside Afghanistan.

It was not very odd, but Osama bin Laden was found May 2, 2011 in Abbottabad, Pakistan, because bin Laden was obviously smarter than the Pentagon planners.

During the 10 years looking for bin Laden in the one place in the world he was LEAST likely to be, the Pentagon had to invent other work to justify thousands of soldiers roaming around Afghanistan.

Once bin Laden was dead in 2011, the Pentagon should have been ordered to leave, but make-work projects and games invented by the Pentagon kept soldiers in Afghanistan. Apparently, neither Obama nor Trump had the guts to tell headstrong and unwise Generals that the Pentagon's playtime in Afghanistan was over. Now it is time for the make-work to end. The Pentagon's games are over and the Taliban will take control of the field and play their games.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, August 15, 2021 6:31 PM

Here’s what 19-year-old Lance Cpl. William Bee felt flying into southern Afghanistan on Christmas Day 2001: purely lucky. The U.S. was hitting back at the al-Qaida plotters who had brought down the World Trade Center, and Bee found himself among the first Marines on the ground.

“Excitement,” Bee says these days, of the teenage Bee’s thoughts then. “To be the dudes that got to open it up first.”

In the decade that followed, three more deployments in America’s longest war scoured away that lucky feeling.

For Bee, it came down to a night in 2008 in Afghanistan’s Helmand province. By then a sergeant, Bee held the hand of an American sniper who had just been shot in the head, as a medic sliced open the man’s throat for an airway.

“After that it was like, you know what — ‘F- - - these people,’ ” Bee recounted, of what drove him by his fourth, and final, Afghan deployment. “I just want to bring my guys back. That’s all I care about. I want to bring them home.”

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-afghanistan-faba8ca09a65e072bb7d8
3155fa6855f


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, August 15, 2021 7:19 PM

We spent years there, it's falling apart in days.

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Sunday, August 15, 2021 7:29 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Did this war have any real objective?



It made the Bushes, Clintons, Cheneys and the Obamas a lot of fuckin' money.

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Sunday, August 15, 2021 8:00 PM

Ultra-Left Missing Link Media not happy with Uncle Joey*.

https://gen.medium.com/bidens-folly-c84bcf2451c5

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This being modern American politics, there is of course a Trump angle. Axios reports: “West Wing officials reject the notion that they could keep Afghanistan stable indefinitely with a small force of around 3,000 that they inherited from Trump. The Biden team’s line is that the only reason the Taliban wasn’t killing Americans last year was because Trump had agreed to leave on May 1 this year. When that deadline passed, they contend, there would be no way to guarantee peace and stability with such a small force.”

Most everything in the world can be blamed (or partially blamed) on former President Trump. We know this from watching MSNBC. But this one is all Biden. What Trump left behind could have been undone with the stroke of a presidential pen. The idea that Trump made them do it is risible.

And just for the record, what Trump left behind was not 3000 US personnel in Afghanistan. That’s not how it works. If you include everyone in (just) the special operations “network,” including the locals, logistics, coordinators, intelligence analysts and air support, the numbers (at least) quintuple. We were spending a lot of money in Afghanistan and spreading it around. It was effective. We had eyes and ears everywhere. (And by the way, NATO is evacuating 8000+ personnel).

When President Biden first announced that the US would be “leaving” Afghanistan, he set September 11, 2021 as the date when every last one of our people would be out. The announcement was greeted with astonished disbelief around the world. Could it really be possible that the US would officially hand over Afghanistan to the people who made it possible for Al Qaeda to attack it 20 years ago………on the very day of that attack?

The answer was “yes,” although the Administration subsequently tried to walk it back without bringing attention to the fact that they were trying to walk it back.

Remarkably, the American press gave the president a pass on this, which seems to be its default setting when it comes to the Biden administration. “Trump was so much worse,” is the always-applicable rationale.

Not in this case. Not by a long shot.



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Sunday, August 15, 2021 8:45 PM

Oct. 13, 2009

From the moment they took office, Mr. Biden has been Mr. Obama’s in-house pessimist on Afghanistan, the strongest voice against further escalation of American forces there and the leading doubter of the president’s strategy. It was a role that may have been lonely at first, but has attracted more company inside the White House as Mr. Obama rethinks the strategy he unveiled just seven months ago.

For Mr. Biden, a longtime senator who prided himself on his experience in foreign relations, the role represents an evolution in his own thinking, a shift from his days as a liberal hawk advocating for American involvement in Afghanistan. Month by month, year by year, the story of Mr. Biden’s disenchantment with the Afghan government, and by extension with the engagement there, mirrors America’s slow but steady turn against the war, with just 37 percent supporting more troops in last week’s CBS News poll.

“He came to question some of the assumptions and began asking questions about whether there might be other approaches that might get you as good or better results at lower cost,” said Richard N. Haass, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, who has been consulted by Mr. Biden on the matter.

Mr. Biden does not favor abandoning Afghanistan, but his approach would reject the additional troops sought by Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal and leave the American force in Afghanistan roughly the same, 68,000 troops. Rather than emphasize protecting the Afghan population, he would accelerate training of Afghans to take over the fight while hunting Al Qaeda in Pakistan using drones and special forces. His view has caught on with many liberals in his party.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210704104838/https://www.nytimes.com/200
9/10/14/world/14biden.html


That was Oct. 13, 2009. Since then, the Afghans did NOT take over the fight. Instead, they run or surrender or die. For example: Afghan president flees the country as Taliban move on Kabul
https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-taliban-kabul-bagram-e1ed33fe0c
665ee67ba132c51b8e32a5


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, August 16, 2021 1:05 AM

Scalise calls Taliban encroachment Biden's 'Saigon moment'
https://news.yahoo.com/scalise-calls-taliban-encroachment-bidens-17070
0626.html


General Milley warns of terror threats to US homeland after Afghanistan falls to Taliban & US ambassador flees Kabul
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3478882/general-milley-warns-terror-threa
t-afghanistan-taliban
/

Harris says she had key role in Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal decision
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/25/harris-afghanistan-biden-with
drawal-decision-484581


I will post some Bitchute and Dailymotion and Gab links in case youtube starts to ban and delete shit
Afghan President flees Afghanistan as Taliban seizes Kabul
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zsCXNncXX7Q/
Taliban militants now inside the presidential palace
https://gab.com/disclosetv/posts/106761574323431054
U.N. Urges Taliban To Stop Offensive, Negotiate
https://rumble.com/vl480o-u.n.-urges-taliban-to-stop-offensive-negotia
te.html

Over running cities
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x83f4z0

WARNING

Disturbing news

I can't watch this, but news reports out there say kids are being married off to the Taliban
https://twitter.com/MauriceMartin01/status/1426591184835723269

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Les filles de 12 ans et plus sont emmenées pour être donner en mariage aux soldats taliban
La charria a commencé et les jeunes filles comme les femmes vont vivre la terreur de ces barbares



https://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=180837
Taliban in Afghanistan taking young girl sex slaves

Oh, Great. The Taliban Is Already Holding Military Parades... With Our Weapons?
https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/oh-great-the-taliban-is-already
-holding-military-parades-with-our-weapons.906317
/

Biden on Afghanistan: Not my problem
https://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/143890-Biden-Says-Afghanistan-N
ot-Our-Problem-But


Afghan president flees the country as Taliban move on Kabul
https://debatepolitics.com/threads/afghan-president-flees-the-country-
as-taliban-move-on-kabul.457328
/

Canadian special forces ready to evacuate embassy
http://www.canadaka.net/forums/current-events-f59/canadian-special-for
ces-ready-to-evacuate-embassy-after-kand-t125521.html


CNN’s Tapper on Afghanistan: ‘Shocking that President Biden Could Have Been So Wrong’
https://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/3294452-c
nn-s-tapper-afghanistan-shocking-president.html


Canadian special forces ready to evacuate embassy
http://www.canadaka.net/forums/current-events-f59/canadian-special-for
ces-ready-to-evacuate-embassy-after-kand-t125521.html


These jihadi pedos they also target young boys btw, Bacha bazi a moslem custom that involves forced to dress as women and to dance for an audience of older terroristic islamic men

Some youtube news
Says panic is happening and they are Getting over-Run


but there is still a chance to hit them with Air Power








Boris Johnson to recall Parliament to discuss Taliban takeover of Afghanistan
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-08-15/boris-johnson-to-recall-parliament
-to-discuss-taliban-takeover-of-afghanistan


War in Afghanistan: President Ashraf Ghani flees country as Taliban reach Kabul
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/war-in-afghanis
tan-live-updates-taliban-entering-kabul-from-all-sides/news-story/c3d33e8ff49d06e1c9c9f0a58906636a

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Monday, August 16, 2021 1:19 AM

Taliban are reciting prayers from the Quran in Kabul's Presidential Palace tonight and they are thanking some demonic pedophile terroristic Moongod called al-Lah, thanking this old pagan Arab Vedic god for their success.

Chaos at # Kabul airport: Hundreds want to leave Afghanistan and are panicking. Gunshots can be heard.
https://twitter.com/EAB01493063/status/1426993046718140426

CNN's Jeremy Diamond says there are "no indications that President Biden is going to address the nation" on #Afghanistan any time soon.
"The moment that we are in today certainly would call for hearing from the president of the United States."
https://twitter.com/thejcoop/status/1426982646874316807

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Originally posted by second:
In the decade that followed, three more deployments in America’s longest war scoured away that lucky feeling.



I do however agree the war has gone on far too long

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Originally posted by whozit:
We spent years there, it's falling apart in days.



Maybe there were islamic mohammedan guys on the inside helping the Taliban

The chances of warlords or Al-Qaeda or some units of taliban taking Western people as hostages is now possible.

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1426698287155908613
' Choosing to lose a war, and to relegate a country to a new dark age, is terrible. But doing very little to ensure that those who helped us, and those who counted on us, can reach safety before we leave, adds the dishonor of abandonment to the disgrace of defeat. '

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Monday, August 16, 2021 3:28 AM

British parliamentary Foreign Affairs Select Committee chairman Tom Tugendhat stated that the collapse was "the biggest single policy disaster since Suez". Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced that he would be recalling parliament to debate the situation.
The Russian Embassy in Kabul stated that it would not evacuate or close the embassy, with a Taliban spokesperson guaranteeing the embassy's safety.
The French government announced that it would be holding an emergency Defence Council meeting on 16 August presided by President Emmanuel Macron to address the situation.
Ann Linde, Swedish Minister for Foreign Affairs, stated that the collapse of the Afghan government had "gone much faster than anyone had expected." Public broadcaster Sveriges Radio further reported that the Swedish embassy was evacuating its staff. Austrian Foreign Minister Alexander Schallenberg warned that "conflict and instability in the region will sooner or later spill over to Europe."


'This is manifestly not Saigon': Blinken




Taliban's Afghanistan advance tests Biden's 'America is back' foreign policy promise
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/08/14/talibans-afgha
nistan-advance-tests-bidens-america-back-policy/8121040002
/

Afghanistan conflict: As Kabul falls, Biden backlash grows
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58224399

Fall of Kabul
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Kabul_(2021)
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The fall of Kabul, also called the siege or surrender of Kabul,[8] is the near-culmination of the 2021 Taliban offensive in the war in Afghanistan, which began in 2001. It reached a climax on 15 August 2021, when Taliban forces entered the capital city of Kabul, hours after President Ashraf Ghani fled the country and abandoned the Afghan government. One-by-one, the provincial capitals of Afghanistan had fallen in midst of a U.S. troop withdrawal to be completed by the end of August.

Tense negotiations are ongoing between a Taliban delegation and Afghan officials.A peaceful transfer of power has been requested by the Taliban, and the government has declared its willingness to abide. However, the government has requested that power be transferred to a transitional government, while the Taliban desires a complete transfer of power. NATO forces still maintained a presence in Kabul as well.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fall_of_Kabul_%282021%29

Taliban enter Afghan capital as president and diplomats flee
https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/taliban-enter-afghan-capital-as-
president-and-diplomats-flee


the jihadi islamist e Taliban is being met with almost no opposition the terror group takes control of the Afghanistan regions

BREAKING: What You’re NOT Hearing About Afghanistan NOW
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YbPMvt1qgFI/

Republicans argue the 'catastrophe' unfolding in Afghanistan could have been avoided
https://www.bitchute.com/video/QpHE0b3t4pU/

Total chaos at Kabul airport. People try to get flights out of Afghanistan.
https://twitter.com/BattleNewsTop/status/1427004637312438276

the Taliban went into the city of Kabul, which is the capital of Afghanistan. This means that visuall and on tv propaganda it looks like they will win the war against the US backed Afghan government.

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