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Hold on a sec. I thought THG was a republican and 1kiki a democrat, did I get that wrong, or did you guys switch, and managed to hold to hating each other while doing so?
I forgot what a time sink this place was. Where's Niki?
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Still a registered democrat*, but not a 'droid. I've had questions about democrats since Clinton, severe issues since Obama (his inability to prosecute any of the financial institutions early-on did not endear me), and Hillary (and Schumer and Pelosi) broke what was left of any good will.
Niki was a card-carrying liberal and (I think) couldn't take any criticism of democrats - and also the severe personal trolling - and dropped off the radar a long time ago.
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Quote:It is either Congress and China saves us or else we are dead. Presidents come and go, but Congress and China goes on and on forever, or at least for another 50 years, which is about how long it will take to clean up this mess if both Congress and China try as hard as they can. But at this moment, Congress cannot do anything because the Republicans in Congress deny there is anything to be done about the climate.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Biden* isn't going to save you from global warming.
I think DreamTrove summed up the Republican position succinctly: "there's no global warming"
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63720&mid=11388
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DreamTrove continued: "there's no coronavirus epidemic, there's no white supremacy, no terrorist threat, there's no economic crisis, there's no debt crisis, there's no islamic extremist, there's no russian threat, there's no foreign election meddling, all of it is fake, everything they say is fake. If it wasn't fake, it wouldn't profit them to say it." That about covers everything.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Still a registered democrat*, but not a 'droid. I've had questions about democrats since Clinton, severe issues since Obama (his inability to prosecute any of the financial institutions early-on did not endear me), and Hillary (and Schumer and Pelosi) broke what was left of any good will.
Yeah, all solid crooks. I'm a registered democrat, that doesn't actually affect my perspective at all. It's all a scam.
The media is the real problem, and it's funny so much of the Niki left (left or die basically) swallows everything they say, since the media is also a giant corporate multinational. They fail to see the "you will be forced to be our customer and believe whatever we say" problem, and the "we hire more psychologists than researchers, because we're brainwashing you"
Meanwhile, the right also has a blindspot for the corporate profit driven "free market" free trade internationalism that turns into "you will be forced to be our customer and believe whatever we say" problem, which also slides into communism.
On Climate Change, there are serious environmental problems, but the media won't focus on them, becuase both its corporate and its govt interests are tied up in creating those problems (like the not-really-wild-fires), and the water contamination, over active use of chemicals in resource mining, overfishing, deforestation, habitat and species destruction, localized rather than global air pollution that contains things like TCE far more toxic than co2.
Trying to find the truth in the middle is hard. I tend to try to find out what the story is (if there's a conspiracy and the media tries to actively shutdown that conspiracy or fact-check it, there's a story.) Then I research on my own and see if I can come up with an answer without reading any of the conspiracy stuff, then I check the results I independently got with what's circulating, and if "people with PhDs who have been kicked out of the govt or corporation for their beliefs when they uncovered some scandal" agree with me, I feel pretty good about my anwser. If someone in media or govt with obvious agenda agrees with me, and is pushing it hard, then i'm probably still wrong. (like if you're completely in line with alex jones on the right or michael moore on the left, you're probably missing some piece of the puzzle)
This is why left-right debates are foolish and why I gave up on RWED, there was too much tribal auto-denial. I always meant to spend more time on the rest of this site, like fan fiction etc. When I realized RWED was eating time, I realized politics was. The only enlightened position I think is that the left-right debate is a control mechanism to force us to "need" our overlords to protect us from the opinions of our fellow citizens.
Re: conspiracy theories, yes, they're mostly bunk, but they're mostly harmless bunk, and everyone once in a while they're correct, and that's when it matters. "Victor Gollancz's idea that the Germans plan to exterminate millions of jews in Eastern Europe is a crazy baseless conspiracy theory" or words to that effect were printed in the jewish owned New York Times in 1938. Gollancz was also jewish. At the critical time, it's not who we are or what we believe that matters, it's our ability to separate fact from fiction, regardless of how unlikely the fact may appear to be, or how likely the fiction appears.
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NIKI left, I think bc she didn't like Obama's motives and actions being questioned. So did MAGONS. Not sure when, maybe after Trump was elected. I think of them as "feel good" liberals.
You missed WISHIMAY who wanted to genocide the world "down to the last hundred" and REAVERFAN who threatened other posters and actively encouraged people killing each other in the name of ANTIFA. I think of them as the uber-authoritarian liberals. (They left bc someone harvested their IPs and when they thought their rantings might be exposed IRL they kind of slunk off.)
FREM disappeared in 2016-ish after threatening Trump supporters with death ("I will come after you")
PIZOMBEACH(?)/G/CAPNCRUNCH left after Biden was "elected", posting "My work here is done".
It was pretty disheartening watching formerly interesting people lose their collective shit over Trump.
Me?
RAPPY taught me that people in the grip of overwhelming fear or overwhelming delusion cannot change their minds, no matter how strenuously you argue with them. So I've throttled back.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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Code red for humanity? Whatever.
The warning:
Global warming is dangerously close to spiralling out of control, a U.N. climate panel said in a landmark report Monday....U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres described the report as a "code red for humanity". "The alarm bells are deafening," he said in a statement. "This report must sound a death knell for coal and fossil fuels, before they destroy our planet."
The reality:
Greenhouse gas emissions from the U.S. energy industry are on track to surge the most in more than three decades as utilities increasingly turn to coal to power the economic recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic. Carbon emissions will swell 7% this year to 4.89 billion metric tons, according to government data released Tuesday, the biggest increase since at least 1990.
Welcome to the world of h. sapiens.
https://jabberwocking.com/code-red-for-humanity-whatever/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Growing acceptance of the reality of climate change has not translated into support for the one strategy that scientists said in a major U.N. report this week is imperative to avert an even more harrowing future: stop burning fossil fuels.
Instead, Republicans want to spend billions to prepare communities to cope with extreme weather and are trying to block efforts by Democrats to cut the emissions that are fueling the disasters in the first place.
Dozens of Republicans in the House and Senate said in recent interviews that quickly switching to wind, solar and other clean energy will damage an economy that has been underpinned by fossil fuels for more than a century.
“I’m not doing anything to raise the cost of living for American families,” said Sen. Rick Scott of Florida, where climate-fueled disasters have cost the state more than $100 billion over the past decade, according to estimates from the federal government.
Scott said he wants to address climate change, but “you can’t do it where you’re killing jobs.”
It’s a message supported by polling that shows Republican voters are more concerned with jobs than the environment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/13/climate/republicans-climate-change.
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Don't worry dude. With gas prices on the rise, people won't be able to drive to work anymore.
Problem solved.
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Global sizzling: July was hottest month on record, NOAA says
Earth sizzled in July and became the hottest month in 142 years of recordkeeping, U.S. weather officials announced.
As extreme heat waves struck parts of the United States and Europe, the globe averaged 62.07 degrees (16.73 degrees Celsius) last month, beating out the previous record set in July 2016 and tied again in 2019 and 2020. the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said Friday. The margin was just .02 degrees (.01 Celsius),
The last seven Julys, from 2015 to 2021, have been the hottest seven Julys on record, said NOAA climatologist Ahira Sanchez-Lugo. Last month was 1.67 degrees (0.93 degrees Celsius) warmer than the 20th century average for the month.
“In this case first place is the worst place to be,” NOAA Administrator Rick Spinrad said in a press release. “This new record adds to the disturbing and disruptive path that climate change has set for the globe.”
“This is climate change,” said Pennsylvania State University climate scientist Michael Mann. “It is an exclamation mark on a summer of unprecedented heat, drought, wildfires and flooding.”
Earlier this week, a prestigious United Nations science panel warned of worsening climate change caused by the burning of coal, oil and natural gas and other human activity.
Warming on land in western North America and in parts of Europe and Asia really drove the record-setting heat, Sanchez-Lugo said. While the worldwide temperature was barely higher than the record, what shattered it was land temperature over the Northern Hemisphere, she said.
Northern Hemisphere temperatures were a third of a degree (.19 degrees Celsius) higher than the previous record set in July 2012, which for temperature records is “a wide margin,” Sanchez-Lugo said.
July is the hottest month of the year for the globe, so this is also the hottest month on record.
One factor helping the world bake this summer is a natural weather cycle called the Arctic Oscillation, sort of a cousin to El Nino, which in its positive phase is associated with more warming, the NOAA climatologist said.
Even with a scorching July and a nasty June, this year so far is only the sixth warmest on record. That’s mostly because 2021 started cooler than recent years due to a La Nina cooling of the central Pacific that often reduces the global temperature average, Sanchez-Lugo said.
“One month by itself does not say much, but that this was a La Nina year and we still had the warmest temperatures on record ... fits with the pattern of what we have been seeing for most of the last decade now,” said University of Illinois meteorology professor Donald Wuebbles.
While the world set a record in July, the United States only tied for its 13th hottest July on record. Even though California, Nevada, Oregon and Washington had their hottest Julys, slightly cooler than normal months in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas, Missouri, Alabama, Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire kept the nation from approaching record heat levels.
The last time the globe had a July cooler than the 20th century average was in 1976, which was also the last year the globe was cooler than that normal.
“So if you’re younger than 45 you haven’t seen a year (or July) where the mean temperature of the planet was cooler than the 20th century average,” said Princeton University climate scientist Gabriel Vecchi.
The Associated Press Health and Science Department receives support from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Department of Science Education. The AP is solely responsible for all content.
https://apnews.com/article/science-environment-and-nature-climate-chan
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Don't worry. The vaccine is going to kill off 60% of Americans before the 2028 elections. 70% or more of people in a lot of other countries.
There will be a lot more to go around then, and a lot less pollution.
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