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Some Covid-19 thoughts

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Thursday, July 22, 2021 11:27 PM

So, following what you posted, KIKI: If getting vaccinated DOESN'T reduce tranmission (because vaccines are active in deep tissue as opposed to peripheral tissue like nose) then is there is a reason to push for vaccines population-wide?
Because a vaccination program won't stop the spread of Covid, right? But it will stop serious illness and death (for the most part)?

If that's the case, how does the measles vaccine (for example) work to stop epidemics? Doesn't the same logic apply? Or does the measles vaccine just make transmission invisible/inconsequential?

I need a primer on that.

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Also, another question, if you may: Once you get infected for real, by the peripheral route, does that mean that you now have a long-term immune response in your periperal tissues as well? (At least, to that particular variant?)

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So, tell me where I'm wrong: If people get vaccinated (which offers protection against serious illness and death) and THEN get exposed to the real deal and have to fend it off one way or another, either asymptomatically ... or not ... isn't that kind of the IDEAL way to create longer-lasting, more complete immunity?



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Friday, July 23, 2021 12:13 AM


I had to look that up because I didn't know.

Measles is interesting immunologically-speaking.

Either infection or vaccination with killed or weakened (attenuated) virus triggers an initial IgM immune response (as is true of infections in general) and an eventual IgG immune response that prevents or reduces disease (ie symptoms) and spread.

https://www.health.qld.gov.au/news-events/news/what-is-measles-why-vac
cinate

"The measles vaccine prevents almost all cases of severe disease."
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2019/11/skipping-measles-v
accine-tied-triple-risk-disease-spread

"unvaccinated people are about three to four times more infectious than those with measles who have gotten one or two doses"

The vaccine (and I assume infection) also triggers a long-term cell-mediated immunity.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26597262/
"analyses showed low levels of spot-forming cells after stimulation, suggesting the presence of T-cell memory"

It looks like either previous natural infection or vaccination doesn't prevent infection, but does limit disease severity and spread.

The measles vaccine is based on inactivated virus. Maybe that creates a more complete response to the various external proteins of the virus, as opposed to single-protein vaccines.


The OTHER thing that measles infection does is that it wipes out most of your previously-developed immunity to other viral and bacterial diseases, as measured by IgG antibody levels. But vaccination doesn't do that.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/10/how-measles-wipes-out-t
he-bodys-immune-memory
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THG
Friday, July 23, 2021 10:16 PM



Jack=ass should run not swim to get his pizza.

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Friday, July 23, 2021 11:02 PM


I have honestly never read a stupider comment in my life.


THUGGER is an idiot. It's that simple.

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THG
Saturday, July 24, 2021 12:37 AM

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Governor Ivey: 'It's the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down'

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THG
Saturday, July 24, 2021 12:43 AM

Jack=ass should run not swim to get his pizza.

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I have honestly never read a stupider comment in my life.


THUGGER is an idiot. It's that simple.



WHO IS THE ‘PIZZA KING’? THE SECRET LANGUAGE BEING USED BY ANTI-VACCINE GROUPS TO SKIRT DETECTION

https://unfoxnews.com/who-is-the-pizza-king-the-secret-language-being-
used-by-anti-vaccine-groups-to-skirt-detection
/

Anti-vax Facebook groups are using secret codes like 'dinner party', 'swim team' to dodge crackdowns

https://www.businessinsider.co.za/trending/anti-vaccine-facebook-group
s-secret-codes-misinformation-2021-7




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Saturday, July 24, 2021 7:31 AM

I don't eat pizza Ted. I'm gluten free.

Anybody who's anti-vaxxing on Facebook is an idiot.

Just don't get the vaccine.

I don't care who gets it. Everybody I care about who was going to get it already did. Nothing I can do about that now. We all eventually get what we deserve in the end.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Saturday, July 24, 2021 7:38 AM

Study finds that Pfizer vaccine is 88% effective against Delta variant.

In other news...

Doing absolutely nothing is 99.2% effective against the Delta variant.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Monday, July 26, 2021 12:22 AM

Quote:

Protesters Rage Across Europe As Lockdown, Vaccination Mandates Begin


Dublin

London: anti vaccine passport, anti lockdown

Paris: anti vaccine passport

Parma

Also Australia.
Altogether 275 protests




https://www.zerohedge.com/political/thousands-join-anti-lockdown-prote
sts-australia-amid-new-restrictions








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Monday, July 26, 2021 2:44 AM

People are going to start dying if they keep doing this.

Not just here. Everywhere.

I'm actually quite proud to see that the human race I belong to isn't as closely related to sheep as I once thought that it was.


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