Some Covid-19 thoughts
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The current 'top 10' per capita new cases are Botswana, UK, Netherlands, Tunisia, Spain, Cuba, Mongolia, Georgia, Libya, and Columbia. http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/
But the UK, the Netherlands, and Spain are 3 of the top 5, despite vaccination rates of 68%, 68%, and 63%, respectively. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
OBVIOUSLY, something either in addition to, or besides, vaccination rates in going on.
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The current 'top 10' per capita new cases are Botswana, UK, Netherlands, Tunisia, Spain, Cuba, Mongolia, Georgia, Libya, and Columbia. http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/
But the UK, the Netherlands, and Spain are 3 of the top 5, despite vaccination rates of 68%, 68%, and 63%, respectively. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
OBVIOUSLY, something either in addition to, or besides, vaccination rates in going on.
Only about half the populations of the countries you mention are completely vaccinated. Point being, that leaves a lot exposed to still getting sick. This virus is still poised to kill millions more.
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But DESPITE all those vaccinations, those countries are THREE OF THE TOP 5 per capita most new cases ON THE PLANET.
Clearly vaccinations aren't the only factor.
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Will the Corona deaths, possibility of Lockdowns, new Covid mutations dominate the mid term elections?
numbers & graphs, USA, India, Brazil still very high
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/#
Also every nation still goes their own way, the chaos can not be controlled and yet they try...so forget the worldwide coordinated plan.
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Fox News’s Covid-19 coverage is confusingly both for and against vaccinations, but mostly against
The viral clip of FOX News Host Sean Hannity talking favorably about vaccines came immediately before he pivoted to a story about a college athlete who was temporarily paralyzed after she took a different sort of vaccine in 2019 — the subtext being that inoculations are more dangerous than the experts would have you believe and that mandates are ill-advised. (Hannity has previously tried to discredit Covid-19 vaccines by saying stuff like, “the great Dr. Fauci has been wrong so often” and proclaiming he was “beginning to have doubts” about getting the shot.)
As Matt Gertz detailed for Media Matters, Hannity’s favorable comments were sandwiched between shows anchored by Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham that both pushed vaccine misinformation:
On Monday, Carlson revived his lie about a government database purportedly showing thousands of deaths from the vaccines and urged viewers to ignore journalists who are encouraging vaccination because they want to “make you comply,” over on-screen graphics reading “MANY VACCINATED PEOPLE ARE HOSPITALIZED” and “OUR LEADERS WANT US TO SHUT UP & NOT ASK QUESTIONS.” Ingraham’s broadcast likewise stressed reasons to question “the efficacy of the vaccine itself among adults.”
It’s true that Hannity was not the only Fox News personality to speak out on behalf of vaccines on Monday. While Hannity stopped sort of explicitly asking his viewers to get vaccinated, Fox & Friends co-host Steve Doocy went further and said, “If you have the chance, get the shot. It will save your life.”
But Doocy was undermined by his co-host Brian Kilmeade, who claimed in response that it’s not the government’s job “to protect anybody” and said of those who choose not to get vaccinated, “if you feel as though this is not something for you, don’t do it, but don’t affect my life.” (A person’s choice to not get vaccinated does in fact affect other people by making it more possible for deadlier mutations of the virus to develop.)
https://www.vox.com/22585354/hannity-fox-news-covid-19-coverage
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.
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Millions of Americans are now demonstrating their loyalty to Trump and their tribe by risking their lives, and the lives others, as they refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 -- despite the fact that Trump himself reportedly received the vaccine in January.
Vaccine skepticism has been a problem in Trump country as the government races to defeat the virus by using inoculation to achieve so-called "herd immunity." As president Trump had modeled anti-science skepticism by generally refusing to wear a face mask and ridiculing the top pandemic advisor, Dr. Anthony Fauci. He held mass campaign rallies against expert advice, was so effective in politicizing the pandemic that even after he publicly agreed the vaccines were safe, his followers lagged in taking it.
The bond Trump forged with his followers was created in large part by his appeal to their pre-existing resentment of elites, including experts on everything from climate change to medicine (Remember how he mused about treating Covid-19 infections with light and disinfectant?). Republicans have played this game for years, which may explain why GOP voters have far less confidence in science than Democrats. Indeed, as historian Naomi Oreskes noted recently, GOP spokespeople have criticized scientists for decades and even invented controversies to challenge experts on concerns such as climate change. With the pandemic the mindset created by the anti-expert drumbeat made it natural for Republican governors to resist scientists who called for life-saving measures like mask mandates for public spaces.
In the case of vaccines, even the fact that they were developed with funds provided by the Trump administration doesn't seem to have much effect. A Washington Post-ABCNews poll released two weeks ago found that while 93 percent of Democrats either have gotten their shots or plan to, only 49 percent of Republicans fall into the same category. Although income was also related to attitudes about the shot, with less-wealthy people showing more skepticism, this factor was not nearly as important as was loyalty to the GOP and Trump.
Anecdotally, it can seem as if vaccine resistance has become part of the culture of resentment that Trump exploited in his campaigns. After years of hearing their man demonize the media, Trump's followers may reflexively tune-out information that could save their lives. When political consultant Frank Luntz convened a focus group to discuss vaccines, one woman said, "A lot of the hesitancy that's coming from the right is just from being bullied, being humiliated, basically, by the media," adding, "I don't really see the point in getting it if nothing is going to change, and I haven't gotten sick."
As regions of under-vaccinated Trump Country experience surges in cases, many in right-wing media are fighting against the government's best efforts to save people from a virus that has already killed 600,000 Americans. Pro-Trump activist Charlie Kirk went on Fox News recently to compare vaccine guidelines to apartheid in South Africa. Meanwhile Fox News opinion hosts have repeatedly misrepresented government policy as they have the vaccine effort. Though notably, Sean Hannity issued an impassioned plea Monday night for his viewers to take Covid seriously, and to consider taking the vaccine.
Like supporting Trump's Big Lie that says the last election was stolen from him, opposition to the vaccine may be shaping up to be a requirement for those who would claim to remain on Team Trump. That this stance requires taking a dramatic risk -- one's own life -- aligns with the type of thinking that led so many of his followers to heed his call to come to Washington, DC, and then attack the Capitol with the hope of stopping the final certification of the election results.
In both cases, Trumpists caught up in something akin to LARPing will inevitably encounter real life consequences in the form of prison terms, hospital stays, or even funerals. Their enablers and defen
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Politics the reason Canada has surpassed U.S. on COVID vaccines, Fauci says
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/fauci-us-canada-vaccines-1.6109362
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Total COVID-19 cases rise to 71 at Tokyo Olympics
https://apnews.com/article/sports-2020-tokyo-olympics-health-tokyo-cor
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The White House has decided to hit back harder on misinformation and scare tactics after Republican lawmakers and conservative activists pledged to fight the administration’s stated plans to go “door-to-door” to increase vaccination rates. The pushback will include directly calling out social media platforms and conservative news shows that promote such tactics.
“The big misinterpretation that Fox News or whomever else is saying is that they are essentially envisioning a bunch of federal workers knocking on your door, telling you you've got to do something that you don't want to do,” Anthony Fauci, President Biden’s chief medical adviser, said in an interview on Sunday. “That's absolutely not the case, it's trusted messengers who are part of the community doing that — not government officials. So that's where I think the disconnect is.”...
... Biden allied groups, including the Democratic National Committee, are also planning to engage fact-checkers more aggressively and work with SMS carriers to dispel misinformation about vaccines that is sent over social media and text messages. The goal is to ensure that people who may have difficulty getting a vaccination because of issues like transportation see those barriers lessened or removed entirely.
“We are steadfastly committed to keeping politics out of the effort to get every American vaccinated so that we can save lives and help our economy further recover,” White House spokesperson Kevin Munoz said. “When we see deliberate efforts to spread misinformation, we view that as an impediment to the country's public health and will not shy away from calling that out.”
The pushback is a change of tone and approach from earlier this year, when the White House often chose to ignore its most vocal conservative critics out of a desire not to elevate them. It is a tacit acknowledgment that the July 4 goal of 70 percent vaccination nationwide was overly optimistic, if not naive. And it underscores that two realities are setting in: It’s becoming more difficult to convince vaccine-skeptics to get their shots (of the 10 least vaccinated states, all were won by Donald Trump in 2020) and the anti-vaccine voices, already vocal in the country, are becoming more mainstreamed by Republicans eager to oppose Biden-led initiatives.
MORE AT https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/12/biden-covid-vaccination-campa
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About the Politico article
1) I'm not sure that "trusted advisors" sounds any better than "government officials". In fact, it sounds creepier.
2) Am I the only one to catch the irony of the article bringing up "conservatives" and "Donald Trump" immediately after the call to "keep politics out" of the vaccination drive?
3) This desire of the DNC to control EVERYTHING tells me that they're still desperately trying to dislodge Trump from the political equation, and everything they've tried hadn't worked. It's like Brexit in Britain: that un-dislodgeable stone that the Liberals tried so hard to get rid of, but which they kept stumbling on over and over.
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The way I see it, the DNC is going to try and pin the Delta variant resurgence as well as the economic fallout on "conservatives" and "Donald Trump", and they're going to try to pin the mess we will be in by 2022 on the GOP.
Altho Trump pushed for rapid vaccine development and reportedly was vaccinated himself, his supporters have backed themselves into a corner by being so anti-vaxx that fallout from the Delta variant can be pinned on them, and made it impossible for Trump to try and steer his supporters in a different direction.
So now we have two entrely
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