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Can social media censor content? Google does it. So does FB and Twitter

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Thursday, April 29, 2021 3:10 PM


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most people really aren't all that interesting and unless you want to run for public office or aspire to some other high profile position anywhere
... or hold an unpopular opinion, for example. No one and nothing is too insignificant when they have the Utah data center and virtually limitless data storage and mining capabilities. And that btw is the government and business working hand-in-hand: business mining what the government shouldn't be going after b/c it's illegal (but when did that ever stop them?), and government Hoovering up the info.





I'm not being paranoid or trying to make anyone paranoid, but with endless data and capability, the old thinking that they tended to focus on big picture people because they didn't have the space or time for pipsqueaks isn't true anymore. They could start a jacket on everyone and have room left over. Then with 6 degrees between anyone, they could take the most innocuous life and - if they wanted to - concoct a series of connections out of random nothingness.

They probably won't.

But then it's not as if everyone who works for the NSA is pristine clean either and sticking to the limits of professional interest in exercising their powers. According to a Congressional review of the records, analysts illegally tracked ex-girlfriends, for example, with no oversight. You don't need to be important either. All you need to do is piss someone off. Or get somebody's interest.

But anyway, it's like a lot of other bad juju. If it can be done, it will be done.

I'm not for it. But I don't see a lot of hope for this to be brought to a stop. Nobody in government - not even Saint Biden* - wants it to stop, and neither does business. And I don't see a popular movement against it either.

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Thursday, April 29, 2021 3:38 PM


Oh, I just wanted to point this out even though it's off-topic

Here's another piece of technology that'll be misused (unless they come up with something better) ... it's a remote animal detecting and identifying unit. All animals generate electric currents with muscle movements (and brain activity as well). This device can detect that EMF at a ('current' ideal) range of 2 miles. It doesn't matter if it's in dense forest or not, because the EMF passes right through it. Apparently each species generates its own particular frequency - moose are 3Hz and bears are 4Hz iirc.

That nice deep expansive forest wilderness up near the Canada/ US border where you feel free? Will probably be heavily monitored in the near future. And everybody and everything will be seen and noted.

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Thursday, April 29, 2021 3:46 PM


So, to get back to this: Can social media censor content? Google does it. So does FB and Twitter

It's been well and truly answered that not only can they, they do. I mean, once Twitter banned The President, what else did they need to do to show how dictatorial they are?

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Thursday, April 29, 2021 6:59 PM

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most people really aren't all that interesting and unless you want to run for public office or aspire to some other high profile position anywhere
... or hold an unpopular opinion, for example. No one and nothing is too insignificant when they have the Utah data center and virtually limitless data storage and mining capabilities. And that btw is the government and business working hand-in-hand: business mining what the government shouldn't be going after b/c it's illegal (but when did that ever stop them?), and government Hoovering up the info.

I'm not being paranoid or trying to make anyone paranoid, but with endless data and capability, the old thinking that they tended to focus on big picture people because they didn't have the space or time for pipsqueaks isn't true anymore. They could start a jacket on everyone and have room left over. Then with 6 degrees between anyone, they could take the most innocuous life and - if they wanted to - concoct a series of connections out of random nothingness.

They probably won't.

But then it's not as if everyone who works for the NSA is pristine clean either and sticking to the limits of professional interest in exercising their powers. According to a Congressional review of the records, analysts illegally tracked ex-girlfriends, for example, with no oversight. You don't need to be important either. All you need to do is piss someone off. Or get somebody's interest.

But anyway, it's like a lot of other bad juju. If it can be done, it will be done.

I'm not for it. But I don't see a lot of hope for this to be brought to a stop. Nobody in government - not even Saint Biden* - wants it to stop, and neither does business. And I don't see a popular movement against it either.



I know all of that, but then again I knew all of that in the early 2000's too. I'd tell people that when you have an IPass they can easily calculate how many miles over the limit you were going from toll to toll and just start mailing out tickets to people without even needing highway patrol (and that the only reason they weren't doing it yet is because they wanted to get everybody on board first and not scare them all off). I'd tell people that every phone conversation you had was being backed up and warehoused. Not that somebody was there listening to everything you've ever said, but if you ever became a person of interest they had a large hard drive somewhere with every phone conversation you ever had.

Turned out that by the time Snowden blew the lid off of everything, technology had already made leaps and bounds and they were doing a whole lot more than storing your phone conversations. What thanks did that patriot get? A life on the run and everybody going back to sleep over it two weeks later.



But yeah. We seem to be on the same page about what the government allows businesses to do because it allows them to tell stupid people that they're not violating your rights.

They know everything about everybody now. Even if you're some bearded old fool on the hill that went completely off grid decades ago, somebody let them know you're their crazy old uncle who lives in a trailer in the middle of the desert.



I'm not going to live my life in fear about it. At least not like I did in my 20's, anyhow. I'm fully aware of it all... But not only can't I do anything about it, but I'm one of over 300 million here, and 7.6 billion in the world.

I've long put any childish notions of being rich and famous aside and buried any ambitions I once had. I've put myself into a position where I need nothing from anybody and I can live off of so little that I rarely ever make enough in a year to even have to pay any Federal taxes that funds everything under the sun I don't agree with.

Posting here is nice, but that isn't going to last forever. Obviously, although not as blatant as Facebook,

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Friday, April 30, 2021 6:33 AM


Well, I'm going to disagree with your conclusion.

What they're after is reality control. And thought control. (BTW most of these aren't my ideas but rather cobbled together from many sources, including SignyM.)


They already have reality control for all but the internet hounds through control of the 'news'.

But to get to specific observations 'out there' about reality control (including pivotal ones from Signy about 'kettling' and blank spots in the news) ...

When it comes to the 'news', most people assume that if it's in the 'news' it's true. And they assume the opposite; if it's NOT in the 'news' then it isn't happening and it isn't true. ie It's 'fake'. When I read the 'news', even on the inet, even from a wide variety of sources across the globe, I always wonder what's not being reported. I assume that there are many articles that are printed because they're smokescreens to hide the absence of important facts, and because they're in support of a 'narrative', (Try to find an article about "The Mighty Wurlitzer".) I'm not diligent or thoughtful enough to know where to look to find the real news, but the question's always on my mind.

But imo if you want to control what people opine, control what they think OTHER people are thinking. People tend to adopt the (apparently) prevalent opinions. Imo what made the (Vietnam) antiwar protests so huge was that they were covered by the media in all their massive chaos. It became acceptable to protest because so many others were protesting. It became acceptable to opine that the war was wrong because so many others publicly thought so, too.



That's where 'kettling' comes in. If you restrict the protests to some more distant place ... and limit the locations ... and you don't report about them (or simply put a few short articles in some obscure sections) ... then it looks like nobody disagrees. And people look around and think to themselves - Well! I guess this is a non-issue! If it's a non-issue to them, then it's a non-issue to me, too! Out of sight, out of mind.

Or you mis-report protests, for example, you report on the 'mostly peaceful', scattered, small, infrequent, BLM protests even though they're 'none of the above'. And then you fade them from the news. Nobody seems to be doing anything! I guess they're not a problem anymore! (if they ever were)

But then you have Jan 6 where the protesters failed to follow the rules. They showed up in huge numbers that were obvious to everyone, and they failed to be kettled. So ... what to do ... (BTW, there were a lot of heavily cropped photos reported that didn't show the true extent of the crowd. And have YOU seen crowd estimates for Jan 6? I haven't.) Aside from minimizing (cropped photos anyone? crowd numbers, anyone?), the media engaged-in and is engaging-in misreporting - like for example calling it an 'insurrection' despite the complete lack of even primitive 1776 weaponry (like guns).

But the one thing you REALLY don't want to have is a repeat. Nobody should take a Jan 6 lesson that having unapproved ideas and having unapproved crowds is tolerated. God forbid a repeat of the anti-war protests of the 60's and 70's in a democracy. Enter social media scouring, facial recognition, and government propaganda. So despite the fact that 99.9% of people there did absolutely nothing wrong except show up to register their opinion, vigilantes of all types including private persons and companies, and government agencies and Congress itself, were/ are hell-bent on identifying anyone and everyone there by any means necessary. Your family, your friends, your neighbors, your employers, and software in anybody's hands, will snitch on you. That'll make a lot of people think twice about joining unapproved gatherings in support of unapproved opinions! And then, there are the troops and fences, just s

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Friday, April 30, 2021 8:44 AM

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Well, I'm going to disagree with your conclusion.



I don't think you're disagreeing with me.

To put it another way, I don't disagree with anything you just posted.



Where do you think I got the idea of the Stages of how they're going to try to force everyone to get vaccinated from? That's not some new idea I just came up with or saw some fringe conspiracy theorist write out on a blackboard on some two-bit YouTube channel. It's because I'm aware of what they're doing and what they're capable of doing... much of which you just laid out in your post.

What you need to remember is that they're not altering reality. They're altering perception of reality.

I guess that's up to you to decide if you think those two ideas are different or not.

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Friday, April 30, 2021 9:47 AM


Oh, I think that there's a very distinct difference between perception of reality and reality itself. I don't care if I don't sense that semi coming at me and am in blissful non-perception. I believe it will kill me all the same. The bad thing is, people tend to trust what they're told (especially by authorities of their own 'tribe') over what they sense with their own lying perceptions.

I summarized your position in my mind as "massive surveillance/ benign neglect". I believe it's more like "massive surveillance/ massive thought control".

That said, some realities can't be hidden from widespread perception - like COVID-19. Government responses are split about it, ranging from "it's not a problem" (very few, like Bolsanaro) to "it's really bad and we need to do something!" (most everyone else around the globe, according to the many different sources I've looked at, from official government-sponsored news to academics everywhere to people I know who've had relatives die of it).

You know, if the sun failed to come up at all for 2 days in a row, pretty much everyone would notice, no matter what the governments said. And though maybe COVID-19 isn't QUITE in the range of that blazingly obvious undeniable reality, I think it's up there.

Look at it this way - using Occam's razor. Why would governments around the globe (some of whom are actively fighting other governments), academics, nurses, doctors, morticians, and ordinary people everywhere all conspire to agree on a COVID-19 fabrication at the same time?

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Friday, April 30, 2021 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I summarized your position in my mind as "massive surveillance/ benign neglect". I believe it's more like "massive surveillance/ massive thought control".



There's nothing benign about it. It's all highly manipulative, but calculated. There's zero ROI, at least right now, to start busting down doors and essentially kidnapping people for wrongthink. Who knows though? Maybe in another 2 or 3 generations that will start happening. The kids today who were born with a cell phone in their hand are going to be VERY different than any generation before them, and one can only imagine where technology will take us by the time they have kids.

At this stage, I view it only as a fairly successful attempt at thought control, and not outright thought control. In order for it to be an actual success, we would all need to become a hive mind, stripped of all personal agency and individual thought. We're not there yet.

I didn't leave that part out. I just didn't add that to an already very long post.



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That said, some realities can't be hidden from widespread perception - like COVID-19. Government responses are split about it, ranging from "it's not a problem" (very few, like Bolsanaro) to "it's really bad and we need to do something!" (most everyone else around the globe, according to the many different sources I've looked at, from official government-sponsored news to academics everywhere to people I know who've had relatives die of it).

You know, if the sun failed to come up at all for 2 days in a row, pretty much everyone would notice, no matter what the governments said. And though maybe COVID-19 isn't QUITE in the range of that blazingly obvious undeniable reality, I think it's up there.

Look at it this way - using Occam's razor. Why would governments around the globe (some of whom are actively fighting other governments), academics, nurses, doctors, morticians, and ordinary people everywhere all conspire to agree on a COVID-19 fabrication at the same time?



I don't know why they would. But they are.



That's why I don't think this was all about Trump. Getting him booted from office was just a happy coincidence and good timing.

But look at the list of people in power who are being attacked in the media. They are all Nationalists who give a shit about their country over other countries.

In other words, they're exactly the opposite of the current globalist elites that are holding the reins in America today.

It would not surprise me if this is all part of a move to further weaken the US status in the world along with the other leadership who doesn't want a part of the globalist regime, and put more power into the hands of the UN. Maybe finally untie the US Dollar from petrol and really watch us free fall. I'll bet those multi-trillion dollar free lunches we seem to be throwing all over the place won't seem so free when that happens.

Hell... maybe one day in our lifetime Nobel Peace Prize winning Obama will be running the UN and our own President will be taking marching orders from him?

At that point, the mere existence of a virus called Covid-19 didn't make all of that happen. It was just a fairly significant piece of the puzzle.

Considering the fear that a large portion of the world population has experienced over the last year, God help us when they unleash the next virus that actually DOES start killing people.

Watch how quickly people's perception of reality is changed and how they'll beg and plead for it all to go away while swearing complete loyalty and fealty to the one(s) who can make it happen and falling to their knees in line.

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Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:11 AM

No opinions?

Too crazy for you?



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Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:15 AM


I disagree. Other than that, and to avoid a long, pointless argument, you can have the last word.

After you ...

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