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Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd

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Thursday, April 22, 2021 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The jury has decided. They have facts that we don't have access to. But the verdict will probably be appealed. The justice system will continue to process....

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

There was this long-accepted train of 'thought' that went like this: Well, you weren't there in the moment. And cops just did what they thought they needed to do at the time they did it.

But imo there are things that need to be looked at and hard-line policies made AHEAD of time. For example - what's the need for continued use of force when a person is in handcuffs? Why put a person prone while they're in handcuffs? And if the person is spitting while in handcuffs, after you apply a spit hood, what's the need for continued use of force? If you imagine that somehow a person is going to flee while in handcuffs can police be issued leg restraints? And how about calling in EMTs if a person seems irrational?

I think police are trained that the person must be ABSOLUTELY STILL AND QUIET for the situation to be considered 'under control'. Because - somehow - wiggling and mouthing-off and are a threat. But that claim's never been backed by any science that I know of.

Instead of continuing the let cops do 'whatever', there needs to be actual facts and actual policies regarding any use of force.

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Thursday, April 22, 2021 1:42 AM

that Floyd was the best poster child the "community" could come up with ..to plaster his image everywhere, to loot, burn, injure others...that says all there really is to say about this larger "race" issue. Evidence? how bout, none of this should have ever happened if George was such a great "man of God".

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Thursday, April 22, 2021 2:10 AM

He gave his ex an abortion the hard way.

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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.

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Thursday, April 22, 2021 2:44 AM

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Originally posted by OLDGUY:
that Floyd was the best poster child the "community" could come up with ..to plaster his image everywhere, to loot, burn, injure others...that says all there really is to say about this larger "race" issue. Evidence? how bout, none of this should have ever happened if George was such a great "man of God".

We didn't make him the poster boy. You did, racist piece of shit.

Nobody said he was any sort of hero. It's just standard practice among racists like yourself to blame the victim.


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Thursday, April 22, 2021 2:47 AM

We knew that Derek Chauvin was guilty—Floyd's murder was caught on film for the world to see. Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck for more than nine minutes as Floyd cried out "I can't breathe," but even this was no guarantee that Chauvin would be held accountable. The American justice system is built on foundations of white supremacy and the protections the system offers cops who commit acts of violence against Black and brown people are extraordinary. Chauvin's own history in the Minneapolis Police Department proves that, as he had 18 complaints filed against him before he murdered George Floyd, but was allowed to continue on in his job because the system successfully shielded him from accountability time and time again.

It took extraordinary pressure from protesters in Minneapolis and across the country for nearly a year to earn even this small victory, and we need to recognize this as a victory for those activists—not a victory for the system. The system is still broken and we need to keep fighting to fix it.



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Thursday, April 22, 2021 3:30 AM

Tucker Carlson Completely LOSES IT Over Chauvin Verdict




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Thursday, April 22, 2021 5:45 PM

Not just “a few bad apples”: U.S. police kill civilians at much higher rates than other countries

Police violence is a systemic problem in the U.S., not simply incidental, and it happens on a scale far greater than other wealthy nations.

by Alexi Jones and Wendy Sawyer, June 5, 2020

There is no question that the number of police killings of civilians in the U.S. – who are disproportionately Black and other people of color – are the result of policies and practices that enable and even encourage police violence. Compared to police in other wealthy democracies, American police kill civilians at incredibly high rates:

https://static.prisonpolicy.org/images/policekillings_rates.webp

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/06/05/policekillings/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, April 22, 2021 6:44 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Police violence is a systemic problem in the U.S., not simply incidental, and it happens on a scale far greater than other wealthy nations.



You know you always make the argument about more guns and more violence here.

Sounds like it's in line with the higher rate of violent crime here than other wealthy nations. This violence is almost exclusively in minority communities.

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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.

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Thursday, April 22, 2021 8:59 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by second:
Police violence is a systemic problem in the U.S., not simply incidental, and it happens on a scale far greater than other wealthy nations.



You know you always make the argument about more guns and more violence here.

Sounds like it's in line with the higher rate of violent crime here than other wealthy nations. This violence is almost exclusively in minority communities.

You sound like Trump, except briefer:
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President Donald Trump on Thursday defended what was perhaps his most notorious remark on the campaign trail about Mexicans — a comment that was widely perceived as racist and helped solidify his reputation as an immigration hardliner.

In June 2015, while Trump was a presidential candidate, he said, "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best."

He added: "They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Trump referred to those comments on Thursday during a televised discussion on
taxes that veered into immigration.

"Remember my opening remarks at Trump Tower when I opened — everyone said, 'Oh, he was so tough.' I used the word 'rape,'" Trump said.

"And yes, it came out where this journey coming up — women are raped at levels that nobody's ever seen before," he continued. "They don't want to mention that. So we have to change our laws. And the Democrats, what they're doing is just — it's insanity. Nobody understands what's going on."

By the way, 6ix, Trump is a big fat idiot.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-mexicans-rapists-remark-referenc
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Thursday, April 22, 2021 9:24 PM

The history of police killing children in America

According to a study by researchers at the Children’s National Hospital, Black children are six times more likely to be fatally shot by police than white children.

A study published in 2014 showed that Black children are often perceived as older than their white counterparts of the same age. The study reported that police officers “overestimated the age of Black and Latino child crime suspects. White children, on the other hand, were not subjected to such overestimations.” An officer sees a nonwhite child as a threat capable of inflicting harm which seamlessly translates to a willingness to kill them. Black and brown children are being cheated of the protection that society should offer them because officers view them as adults.

The Chicago PD has killed more young people than any other local law enforcement agency in the country. The Columbus PD is a close second.

More at https://www.vox.com/22394326/makhia-bryant-adam-toledo-police-killing



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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