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Quote:Yes, it is. It's too bad the Dems/deep state didn't allow it when Trump was President, but are all behind it now.
Originally posted by THG:
Trump says Biden's plan to withdraw US troops from Afghanistan is a 'wonderful and positive thing to do
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-biden-s-plan-to-wit
hdraw-us-troops-from-afghanistan-is-a-wonderful-and-positive-thing-to-do/ar-BB1fOlsy?ocid=msedgntp
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Yes, it is. It's too bad the Dems/deep state didn't allow it when Trump was President, but are all behind it now.
Originally posted by THG:
Trump says Biden's plan to withdraw US troops from Afghanistan is a 'wonderful and positive thing to do
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-biden-s-plan-to-wit
hdraw-us-troops-from-afghanistan-is-a-wonderful-and-positive-thing-to-do/ar-BB1fOlsy?ocid=msedgntp
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Five bucks says you can find Ted saying it was a terrible idea somewhere between 2016 and the end of 2020.
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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.
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So, seeing as US warships had to turn tail recently, behind a cloud of official chaff to confuse the USA population as to what, exactly, happened ...
I'm posting this as a placeholder and framework for thinking about how Russia and China can counter and topple the USA hegemony.
JO, YOU MIGHT WANT TO PAY ATTENTION! RUSSIA AND CHINA - AND INDEED ANY NATION- DON'T WORK BY "MAGIC", THEY TAKE POSITIVE REALWORLD STEPS WITH REALWORLD CONSEQUENCES. SO DIAL DOWN YOUR PARANOIA AND PUT YOUR BRAIN IN GEAR!
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What levers has the USA used, or might use in future, and how can/will China and Russia counter them? I will add to these if I think of more.
MILITARY
Land forces
Naval forces
Air and space forces
Nuclear forces
Electronic warfare
Training and communication
Strategic and tactical effectiveness
MILITARY/BLACK OPS
Cyberwarfare
Intelligence gathering
Psyops and false flags
Proxy war
Color revolution
Assassination
NON-MILITARY
Economic warfare (blockades, trade sanctions, tariffs)
Financial (debt trap, currency warfare, financial sanctions, IMF/World Bank)
Political (satrapy, bribes, coalitions, alliances, selective UN/other international rules enforcement)
"Soft power": NGOs, propaganda, movies and television shows, social media
Anything else?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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Now, tell us about your murderous boss, Putin.
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apropos of me "thinking out loud" about the levers of power, this very interesting article was pointed out to me:
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America’s Neoliberal Financialization Policy vs. China’s Industrial Socialism
Michael Hudson • April 15, 2021 • 2,400 Words
Nearly half a millennium ago Niccolo Machiavelli’s The Prince described three options for how a conquering power might treat states that it defeated in war but that “have been accustomed to live under their own laws and in freedom: … the first is to ruin them, the next is to reside there in person, the third is to permit them to live under their own laws, drawing a tribute, and establishing within it an oligarchy which will keep it friendly to you.”[1]
Machiavelli preferred the first option, citing Rome’s destruction of Carthage. That is what the United States did to Iraq and Libya after 2001. But in today’s New Cold War the mode of destruction is largely economic, via trade and financial sanctions such as the United States has imposed on China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela and other designated adversaries. The idea is to deny them key inputs, above all in essential technology and information processing, raw materials, and access to bank and financial connections, such as U.S. threats to expel Russia from the SWIFT bank-clearing system.
The second option is to occupy rivals. This is done only partially by the troops in America’s 800 military bases abroad. [NOT BASES, INSTALLATIONS. - SIGNY] But the usual, more efficient occupation is by U.S. corporate takeovers of their basic infrastructure, owning their most lucrative assets and remitting their revenue back to the imperial core.
President Trump said that he wanted to seize Iraq’s and Syria’s oil as reparations for the cost of destroying their society. His successor, Joe Biden, sought in 2021 to appoint Hillary Clinton’s loyalist Neera Tanden to head the government’s Office of Management and Budget (OMB). She had urged that America should make Libya turn over its vast oil reserves as reparations for the cost of destroying its society. “We have a giant deficit. They have a lot of oil. Most Americans would choose not to engage in the world because of that deficit. If we want to continue to engage in the world, gestures like having oil rich countries partially pay us back doesn’t seem crazy to me.” [2]
U.S. strategists have preferred Machiavelli’s third option: To leave the defeated adversary nominally independent but to rule via client oligarchies. President Jimmy Carter’s national-security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski referred to them as “vassals,” in the classical medieval meaning of demanding loyalty to their American patrons, with a common interest in seeing the subject economy privatized, financialized, taxed and passed on to the United States for its patronage and support, based on a mutuality of interest against local democratic assertion of nationalistic self-reliance and keeping the economic surplus at home to promote domestic prosperity instead of being sent abroad.
That policy of privatization by a client oligarchy with its own source of wealth based on the U.S. orbit is what American neoliberal diplomacy accomplished in the former Soviet economies after 1991 to secure its Cold War victory over Soviet Communism. The way in which client oligarchies were created was a grabitization that utterly disrupted the economic interconnections integrating the economies. “To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires,” Brzezinski explained, “the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected and to keep the barbarians from coming together.”[3]
After reducing Germany and Japan to vassalage after defeating them in WorldNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, seeing as US warships had to turn tail recently, behind a cloud of official chaff to confuse the USA population as to what, exactly, happened ...
I'm posting this as a placeholder and framework for thinking about how Russia and China can counter and topple the USA hegemony.
What levers has the USA used, or might use in future, and how can/will China and Russia counter them? I will add to these if I think of more.
And again comrade Signym shows she is russian not American. First Sig, our warships did not turn tale and run. Now, let's take the word hegemony. The word you use to describe America. In the case of America it means leadership across the world. In the case of russia or china, it means dominance. Dominance over its own people. Ruling not governing with an iron fist. Something you never criticize but instead cheer when you wrongly believe one of these countries bested the U S.
It is so, so obvious you are discontented and resentful of our qualities and greatness. It is so, so obvious you wallow in self-pity and your inferiority. It is the thing that always stands out when you post. How you feel inferior.
T
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Yes, it is. It's too bad the Dems/deep state didn't allow it when Trump was President, but are all behind it now.
Originally posted by THG:
Trump says Biden's plan to withdraw US troops from Afghanistan is a 'wonderful and positive thing to do
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-biden-s-plan-to-wit
hdraw-us-troops-from-afghanistan-is-a-wonderful-and-positive-thing-to-do/ar-BB1fOlsy?ocid=msedgntp
Russian troll, much?
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Quote:Ok, let's just say that they never made it to the Black Sea where they were originally sent
SIGNYM:
So, seeing as US warships had to turn tail recently, behind a cloud of official chaff to confuse the USA population as to what, exactly, happened ...
I'm posting this as a placeholder and framework for thinking about how Russia and China can counter and topple the USA hegemony.
What levers has the USA used, or might use in future, and how can/will China and Russia counter them? I will add to these if I think of more.
THUGR: And again comrade Signym shows she is russian not American. First Sig, our warships did not turn tale [sic] and run.
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Now, let's take the word hegemony. The word you use to describe America. In the case of America it means leadership across the world. In the case of russia or china, it means dominance. Dominance over its own people. Ruling not governing with an iron fist. Something you never criticize but instead cheer when you wrongly believe one of these countries bested the U S.
It is so, so obvious you are discontented and resentful of our qualities and greatness. It is so, so obvious you wallow in self-pity and your inferiority. It is the thing that always stands out when you post. How you feel inferior.
Once again, we have THUGR not even bothering to crack an online dictionary to look up the true meaning of a word.
HEGEMONY:
n.The predominance of one state or social group over others.
n. Predominance; preponderance; leadership; specifically, headship or control exercised by one state over another or others, as through confederation or conquest: originally applied to such a relation often existing among the states of ancient Greece.
n.Leadership; preponderant influence or authority; -- usually applied to the relation of a government or state to its neighbors or confederates.
https://www.wordnik.com/words/hegemony
n. leadership or predominant influence exercised by one nation over others, as in a confederation.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hegemony
hegemony
noun politics formal
(especially of countries) the position of being the strongest and most powerful and therefore able to control others
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/hegemony
Hegemony refers to relationships BETWEEN NATIONS, not as to whether the hegemon is or isn't internally authoritarian.
Whether YOU call it "world leadership" or neocons call it the "unipolar moment" or someone else calls it "hegemony" it all revolves around the concept of a nation dominant over other nations. Please, stop conflating words to fit your political sensitivities. Learn English, and stop trying to make words mean what YOU want them to mean.
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Hegemony: Influence or authority over others. America has influence. russia or china exerts authority. Simple comrade Signym, simple.
It's the same for preponderant.
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Quote:The USA has approximately 1.4 million active duty military. https://www.statista.com/statistics/232330/us-military-force-numbers-b
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, seeing as US warships had to turn tail recently, behind a cloud of official chaff to confuse the USA population as to what, exactly, happened ...
I'm posting this as a placeholder and framework for thinking about how Russia and China can counter and topple the USA hegemony.
JO, YOU MIGHT WANT TO PAY ATTENTION! RUSSIA AND CHINA - AND INDEED ANY NATION- DON'T WORK BY "MAGIC", THEY TAKE POSITIVE REALWORLD STEPS WITH REALWORLD CONSEQUENCES. SO DIAL DOWN YOUR PARANOIA AND PUT YOUR BRAIN IN GEAR!
*****
What levers has the USA used, or might use in future, and how can/will China and Russia counter them? I will add to these if I think of more.
MILITARY
Land forces
y-service-branch-and-reserve-component/ The remainder of NATO has approx 1.9 million active duty military
https://www.statista.com/statistics/584286/number-of-military-personne
l-in-nato-countries/
By contrast, Russia has somewhat less than 1 million active duty military, and China has about 2 million.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org
/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel
Naval forces
It's difficult to compare land forces to land forces bc they're not broken out separately. The Russian Navy is rather small, as is it's airforce. The problem with the USA and NATO is that it's forces are spread across much of the globe, while Russia's and China's are concentrated defensively, for the most part, within their own respective borders, so considering their respective "near abroads" (Ukraine, Taiwan) Russia and China would probably have the numeric advantage in a conventional ground war.
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Air and space forces
Nuclear forces
Electronic warfare
Training and communication
Strategic and tactical effectiveness
MILITARY/BLACK OPS
Cyberwarfare
Intelligence gathering
Psyops and false flags
Proxy war
Color revolution
Assassination
NON-MILITARY
Economic warfare (blockades, trade sanctions, tariffs)
Financial (debt trap, currency warfare, financial sanctions, IMF/World Bank)
Political (satrapy, bribes, coalitions, alliances, selective UN/other international rules enforcement)
"Soft power": NGOs, propaganda, movies and television shows, social media
Anything else?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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