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Taliban winning in Afghanistan

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Friday, April 16, 2021 6:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
All this is assuming of course the US doesn't 'withdraw' from Afghanistan under Biden* the way it 'withdrew' from Syria under Trump.

If true, I wonder if the Taliban is benefiting from the Biden* policy of pissing-off both Russia AND China at the same time! Because somebody counted heads and decided there weren't any spare to waste on Afghanistan.

That would be weird, illogical.

Trump's Syria plan was foiled by Deep State Libtards whom he had failed to drain from the Swamp. And those Libtards lied to Trump, deceived Trump about their refusal to execute the orders of The Commander-in-Chief.
On the other hand, Lord Darth Obiden only says what his minions tell him to say, do what his babysitters tell him to do.

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Tuesday, April 20, 2021 7:03 PM

Trump says Biden's plan to withdraw US troops from Afghanistan is a 'wonderful and positive thing to do'

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-says-bidens-plan-withdraw-104604378.ht
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Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan is a terrible risk
https://tucson.com/opinion/national/bidens-withdrawal-from-afghanistan
-is-a-terrible-risk/article_990690bf-6c7f-53da-b674-e1fd9786ec6f.html


Biden citing the wrong reasons for Afghanistan withdrawal | COMMENTARY
https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/op-ed/bs-ed-op-0420-goldberg-bide
n-afghanistan-20210419-q6g5ev6f3rhqbh52ao6xbbco7q-story.html


As Biden improves with vets, Afghanistan plan a plus to some
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/As-Biden-improves-with-vets-Afghan
istan-plan-a-16108063.php


'Joe Biden’s big blunder on Afghanistan will backfire'
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/joe-bidens-big-blunder-on-
afghanistan-will-backfire/news-story/737a72dee48ad6fb301020dad3e53d09


'Time to end the forever war': U.S., allied troops to leave Afghanistan by Sept. 11
https://www.thetelegram.com/news/world/time-to-end-the-forever-war-us-
allied-troops-to-leave-afghanistan-by-sept-11-575683
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THG
Tuesday, April 20, 2021 7:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

First post on the topic was 2010. Eleven years later, the inevitable has come to pass.

However, let me point out that if Brzezinski/Carter hadn't decided to fund the"mujahideen" (jihadists) and hadn't decided to overthrow the Soviet-friendly government, Afghanistan would probably today be a secular nation where women would have CONTINUED to make up 40pct of doctors and lawyers, and a significant pct of engineers, instead of a woman-hating, religiously intolerant, corrupt exporter of heroin.

Come to think of it, the USA has destroyed, or attempted to destroy, ALL of the secular nations of the MENA (Afghanistan, Iran under Mossadegh, Iraq, Libya, Syria). We must have a death wish in that region.




On December 24, 1979, the Soviet Union invades Afghanistan, under the pretext of upholding the Soviet-Afghan Friendship Treaty of 1978. As midnight approached, the Soviets organized a massive military airlift into Kabul, involving an estimated 280 transport aircraft and three divisions of almost 8,500 men each.

The Soviet invasion was sparked by the weakening of a Pro-Soviet Communist Government in Afghanistan. The Afghan government was failing and the Soviets sent troops to try and prop up their falling “ally”.

Soviets had secured Kabul, deploying a special assault unit against Tajberg Palace. Elements of the Afghan army loyal to Hafizullah Amin put up a fierce, but brief resistance.

On December 27, Babrak Karmal, exiled leader of the Parcham faction of the Marxist People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA), was installed as Afghanistan’s new head of government. And Soviet ground forces entered Afghanistan from the north.

The Soviets, however, were met with fierce resistance when they ventured out of their strongholds into the countryside. Resistance fighters, called mujahidin, saw the Christian or atheist Soviets controlling Afghanistan as a defilement of Islam as well as of their traditional culture. Proclaiming a “jihad”(holy war), they gained the support of the Islamic world.

The mujahidin employed guerrilla tactics against the Soviets. They would attack or raid quickly, then disappear into the mountains, causing great destruction without pitched battles. The fighters used whatever weapons they could grab from the Soviets or were given by the United States.

The tide of the war turned with the 1987 introduction of U.S. shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles. The Stingers allowed the mujahidin to shoot down Soviet planes and helicopters on a regular basis.

New Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev decided it was time to get out. Demoralized and with no victory in sight, Soviet forces started withdrawing in 1988. The last Soviet soldier crossed back across the border on February 15, 1989.

It was the first Soviet military expedition beyond the Eastern bloc since World War II and marked the end of a period of improving relations (known as détente) in the Cold War. Subsequently, the SALT II arms treaty was shelved and the U.S. began to re-arm.

Fifteen thousand Soviet soldiers were killed.

The long-term impact of the invasion and subsequent war was profound. First, the Soviets never recovered from the public relations and financial losses, which significantly contributed to the fall of the Soviet empire in 1991. Secondly, the war created a breeding ground for terrorism and the rise of Osama bin Laden.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/soviet-tanks-roll-into-afg
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Our commie friends would like to rewrite history but alas, they cannot. Fact, when russia went into Afghanistan the Afghanis not only drove them out, they caused the collapse of the Soviet Union. How funny is that?




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Tuesday, April 20, 2021 7:42 PM

What does it mean to rewriter history?

We have no Russians posting here.

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THG
Tuesday, April 20, 2021 8:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

All this is assuming of course the US doesn't 'withdraw' from Afghanistan under Biden* the way it 'withdrew' from Syria under Trump.

If true, I wonder if the Taliban is benefiting from the Biden* policy of pissing-off both Russia AND China at the same time! Because somebody counted heads and decided there weren't any spare to waste on Afghanistan.



T


NATO forces will withdraw from Afghanistan by the end of 2014, which will add new security pressures on China's western border. CCTV America's Han Peng reports on the Chinese military effort to prevent terrorists from entering their country.




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THG
Tuesday, April 20, 2021 8:55 PM

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President Joe Biden’s withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan by September is a “key stroke” in the administration’s “broader international policy” as bigger threats to the US have emerged.

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Tuesday, April 20, 2021 8:59 PM

You're welcome, Ted.

I'll waive the administrative fees for copy editing today.



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THG
Tuesday, April 20, 2021 9:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
First post on the topic was 2010. Eleven years later, the inevitable has come to pass.

However, let me point out that if Brzezinski/Carter hadn't decided to fund the"mujahideen" (jihadists) and hadn't decided to overthrow the Soviet-friendly government, Afghanistan would probably today be a secular nation where women would have CONTINUED to make up 40pct of doctors and lawyers, and a significant pct of engineers, instead of a woman-hating, religiously intolerant, corrupt exporter of heroin.

Come to think of it, the USA has destroyed, or attempted to destroy, ALL of the secular nations of the MENA (Afghanistan, Iran under Mossadegh, Iraq, Libya, Syria). We must have a death wish in that region.

2010. Well, this is completely different now.
That was the Obama/Biden regime.
Now this is the Obama/Biden/Harris regime.
No similarity whatsoever.
Completely different.
It was just "inevitable."
Too bad we couldn't reinvigorate this War under Trump.



T


Afghan Troop Withdrawal Doesn't Mean US Is Giving Up Against Taliban. The US is likely to maintain a shadow military and intelligence presence in Afghanistan even after it withdraws its ground troops from the country by September 2021.

The US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin has said the America would continue to support the Afghan government’s military after the drawdown and hinted at a possible “counterterrorism” force in the region that could strike targets in Afghanistan.

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Tuesday, April 20, 2021 9:11 PM

Yup. lol

Democrats aren't ending the war. The Democrats love war.

So does the Legacy Media, Big Corporations and the Military Industrial Complex, which are now all behind the Democrat Party.





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Sunday, April 25, 2021 4:59 PM

After Afghanistan: Last Lesson From Vietnam, Part II

https://www.thebattleground.eu/articles/2021/04/19/after-afghanistan/

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