new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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Seems we've already moved on to step 4 while step 3 is still going on. In some states were vaccines are rolling out slower, it's also while steps 1 and 2 are still happening.
See my underlined sections of my post here Kiki, and the following exchange with Sigs. She seems to think this is perfectly fine, which is odd, considering her stances on other similar issues.
They're manipulating people through fear. This is an example of that.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
What she told her husband is what the media is suggesting that EVERYONE who is getting vaccinated do to anybody who isn't getting vaccinated. And also doing to them what she did to him.
Guilt them.
Guilting him to guilt them.
Here's the steps, if you missed me talk about them before.
STEP 1: Give the vaccine to the 50 to 60% of people who are terrified of the virus and would do anything to get it.
STEP 2: Give the vaccine to the 15 to 20% of people who are just so f-ing tired of how we've been forced to live the last year that they just want it to go away and will get vaccinated so they can get back to their old lives.
(Steps one and two will have quite a bit of overlap, both in the timeframe and/or like-mindedness.)
STEP 3: Guilt the shit of the remaining people. Not all of them will be guilted into it. But some of them will.
STEP 4: Ruin the lives of people who still refuse. This can be done, and will be done, in a variety of ways. (This can only begin once there is a legitimate surplus of vaccinations without any remaining demand for them).
One of the biggest will be by allowing corporations to force vaccinations otherwise face termination from your job (the article from South Carolina I posted earlier today is actually about a bill being considered in the state to PROHIBIT companies in the state from doing this).
But then there's just the general guilting that will never end until the media stops talking about it. If you haven't been paying attention to the way these things work online the last few years, that guilting will quickly turn to HATE. This is going to make for a very hostile work environment for many people at this point. Imagine the RWED, but in a live office setting... in every workplace around the country. (and with weak-minded, terrified people truly believing that somebody like me is threatening their life by my mere presence in front of them without having had the shots).
If they really want to make the issue bad, they'll start instituting an ID card... maybe even provide you with a handy little lanyard to wear it like a dog collar whenever you leave your home.
Worst case is that when enough people have already gotten it and the rest refuse that the Legacy Media starts referring to those who resist vaccination as Bio Terrorists.
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6ixStringJack:
I'm fairly confident that I won't be able to get a job once they start forcing vaccines anyhow.
I'm not going to get one. And I will die on that hill if necessary.
SIGNY: Well, that's your problem.
SIX: Not only mine.
It will take a long time for my money to run out and become desperate.
And there's probably a couple of million people who are a lot more fond of fighting than I am too.
Seems my predictions were right about this. Didn't take long for you to jump right on board with the IDs for work, huh?
Well, I don't think "the government" is going to frog-march you into the vaccination center. It will be businesses that will require it before you can get a job, or ... anything. Not because "gubmint" told them so but because they want their customers back.
So are you and the people you claim are on your side going to burn down the nearest Walmart, or Walgreens, like Antifa/BLM?
Good luck with that.
Frankly, I don't care whether you get vaccinated or not. I got mine, and I feNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Oh, and I should add to my reply to sigs, since she asked me a few questions that I didn't answer.
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So are you and the people you claim are on your side going to burn down the nearest Walmart, or Walgreens, like Antifa/BLM?
Not me. I already put in my previous reply that it will take a far longer time than most before I became desperate.
And also, why do you think it would be some sort of "joke" like Antifa/BLM. We're talking about militant militia groups here. Some of them with at least a screw or two loose. If I had to guess, it's going to look a lot more like the Las Vegas incident a few years back but on methamphetamines.
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And if there are anti-vaxxers running around with their hair on fire, so what? Not my problem. Your choice. YOUR problem.
I should state AGAIN that I'm not an anti-vaxxer.
I am anti THIS vaccine. And I'm anti people being barred from life unless they do exactly as they're told. Period.
I shouldn't have to repeat myself for YOU about this Sigs, but if you're going start being a hypocrite and behave like Second and Ted when it's about something you have strong feelings about, I feel like I'm obliged to separate myself from actual anti-vaxxers that are no doubt out there and are going to end up doing things that are A LOT scarier than anything that happened over the last year.
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Quote:SIX, this is one of those issues that IMHO you're being irrational. I know that for a government/business seeking ever-greater control, the motto is Never let a good crisis go to waste. But just bc they can weaponize (or even create) a crisis doesn't mean that the crisis doesn't exist. Despite all evidence, you're in deep denial about the nature of the virus, or that the disease really exists or causes significant excess deaths. There's no talking to you about this rationally.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Oh, and I should add to my reply to sigs, since she asked me a few questions that I didn't answer.Quote:
So are you and the people you claim are on your side going to burn down the nearest Walmart, or Walgreens, like Antifa/BLM?
Not me. I already put in my previous reply that it will take a far longer time than most before I became desperate.
And also, why do you think it would be some sort of "joke" like Antifa/BLM. We're talking about militant militia groups here. Some of them with at least a screw or two loose. If I had to guess, it's going to look a lot more like the Las Vegas incident a few years back but on methamphetamines.Quote:
And if there are anti-vaxxers running around with their hair on fire, so what? Not my problem. Your choice. YOUR problem.
I should state AGAIN that I'm not an anti-vaxxer.
I am anti THIS vaccine. And I'm anti people being barred from life unless they do exactly as they're told. Period.
I shouldn't have to repeat myself for YOU about this Sigs, but if you're going start being a hypocrite and behave like Second and Ted when it's about something you have strong feelings about, I feel like I'm obliged to separate myself from actual anti-vaxxers that are no doubt out there and are going to end up doing things that are A LOT scarier than anything that happened over the last year.
The Federal government won't... CAN'T ... create a national database of who's been vaccinated and who hasn't. There are too many ppl already vaccinated for the Feds to start NOW; it's far too late and it would be a nightmare to sort out the data already. The only possible programs would be local, or required by business, bc all of the vaccination sites give out easily-forgeable heavy paper cards connected to disparate databases.
It's like a driver's license, yeah? Except on a smaller, more casual scale.
EDITED TO ADD: I'm going to repeat my question here, which is also in the "Biden" thread, so you don't miss it:
You say that you aren't against all vaccines, just THIS one.
Why?
How is this any different than, say, the measles vaccine? Just like Covid-19, measles is highly contagious but the possibility of death from measles is fairly low. As was repeated to me often when I was a child, the reason for the vaccine is to protect pregnant women or ... more specifically ... their unborn babies. A farily narrow segment of the population, and not necessarily those being vaccinated, yeah?
In CA, a child needs a measles vaccination to attend school, and must have a medical exemption from a doctor in order to avoid it. And after the outbreak that we had here in SoCal a few years ago, the state got pretty serious about making sure the medical exemption passed medical muster, not just a boutique scrip written by a friendly family doctor.
So if you accept measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpx, tetanus, polio, etc vaccines, why not this one?
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I think business will be the 'business' end of COVID-19 vaccine requirements, even if government is providing 'technical' support like providing unified formats (by farming it out to businesses, of course). Also, as I've mentioned before, there are no Constitutional protections against businesses doing whatever businesses want in terms of infringing on so-called Constitutional protections ... like free speech for example. Businesses will have a free hand to require whatever they want to require.
And I'm not stating a preference, just pointing out what seem to be the facts.
Vaccines against anything fall under the same category imo, whether they're against measles, rabies, the flu, or COVID-19, in terms of distinguishing 'how they work' biologically-speaking. You get exposed to a non-infectious agent that you develop antibodies to, to provide protection against the real thing.
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SIX, this is one of those issues that IMHO you're being irrational.
If you think I'm the one being irrational, just wait until/if this actually happens.
You're not hearing the dissent online. The media won't report on it and social media removes it as fast as it's posted.
Everybody can pretend that it doesn't exist until it's too late.
Just like everything else.
In the mean time, you're making excuses for our government using corporations to enact their will and skirt around personal freedom because you happen to agree with it this time.
Gross.
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You say that you aren't against all vaccines, just THIS one.
Why?
DO NOT ask me questions I've already answered before.
My position is crystal clear, and I'm not going to repeat myself. I'm not your dancing monkey.
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Oh. And it's probably at this point that you should all kiss my ass and tell me that I was right.
Just because you both changed your minds about supporting these new tactics, I don't see either of you telling me that I'm wrong about them doing it anymore.
Because you can't. Because I was right.
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Jack, the government using corporations to skirt the Constitution IS NOT NEW.
It's been going on at least since the US PATRIOT ACT v1, the US wiretap at the San Fran AT&T telephone offices, and the US government 'data center' at Utah, all of which got a lot of discussion and reference.
You're just late to the party. I suspect that's because you were SO buried in your state of denial (to deal with your paranoia-triggered anxiety), you decided it didn't matter back then, and you intentionally wrote it off.
**NOW** - when it's about something that's actually penetrated your denial - you've finally come around.
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It went all the way back to the government using Pinkerton to bust up unions for business, yellow journalism to whip up war frenzy, etc.
SUX, if you've already answered my ?? about how measles vaccine is different from Civid-19 vaccine, I must have missed it. The rationale for vaccination is the same inbith cases. So, what's the diff?
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Jack, the government using corporations to skirt the Constitution IS NOT NEW.
It's been going on at least since the US PATRIOT ACT v1, the US wiretap at the San Fran AT&T telephone offices, and the US government 'data center' at Utah, all of which got a lot of discussion and reference.
You're just late to the party. I suspect that's because you were SO buried in your state of denial (to deal with your paranoia-triggered anxiety), you decided it didn't matter back then, and you intentionally wrote it off.
**NOW** - when it's about something that's actually penetrated your denial - you've finally come around.
I don't ever want to hear a fucking word out of either of you about freedom of speech again.
ETA: I have no fucking idea what "denial" you're talking about either. Aside from maybe FREM, I was the loudest voice against the Patriot Act on this whole goddamned site and knew more about it back in the mid 2000's than you could ever pretend to know.
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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.
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It went all the way back to the government using Pinkerton to bust up unions for business, yellow journalism to whip up war frenzy, etc.
SUX, if you've already answered my ?? about how measles vaccine is different from Civid-19 vaccine, I must have missed it. The rationale for vaccination is the same inbith cases. So, what's the diff?
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Looks like you can go back and fucking look for it then.
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