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The only Trumptards are the people still mentioning his name every day 2 months after their guy was inaugurated.
That's you, Trumptard.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The only Trumptards are the people still mentioning his name every day 2 months after their guy was inaugurated.
That's you, Trumptard.
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Not so, SIX! These guys mention Trump MULTIPLE times a day? So, what does that make them?
Trumptards+ ?
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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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Quote:You're still a Russian affiliate, Signym. A new report lays bare why Russian disinformation succeeds.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Not so, SIX! These guys mention Trump MULTIPLE times a day? So, what does that make them?
Trumptards+ ?
The Science of Making Americans Hurt Their Own Country
The National Intelligence Council has released an unclassified report assessing, retrospectively, foreign threats to the 2020 election. It has a few twists and turns: The Iranian government attempted to run some kind of online influence campaign; the Chinese government considered doing the same but then dropped the idea. But most of the report is about Russia. Unlike in 2016, Russian intelligence operatives weren’t in the business of hacking and leaking this time around. Instead they concentrated on planting what they would call kompromat. The NIC focuses in particular on the activity of Andriy Derkach, a Russian agent and Ukrainian citizen who used former President Donald Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, to spread disinformation about Joe Biden and his family. The report also mentions Konstantin Kilimnik, another Russian agent, who was playing the same game.
When I read the report, my instinctive reaction was I know all of this already. No wonder the story is familiar—most of it appeared in newspapers as it was unfolding. Giuliani’s contacts with Derkach can’t be described as an open secret, because they weren’t secret at all. In 2019 the two men appeared together on the One American News Network, OANN, a far-right channel that breathlessly described Derkach as part of a group of “actual whistleblowers,” talked about the “impeachment hoax,” and referred to the FBI’s “personal hatred for Donald Trump.” Giuliani and Derkach provided the channel with doctored tapes and other material designed to create the impression that Biden was somehow involved in corruption in Ukraine.
Kilimnik, too, has become an old and familiar face in American politics, one that appears in election after election. During the 2016 campaign, Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager, passed polling information to him. Although this fact turned up in former Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of the 2016 election, nobody has ever explained why Kilimnik wanted this polling information or what he might have done with it. Now here he is, back again, front and center in 2020. The new report says that—in addition to providing kompromat to OANN—Kilimnik, Derkach, and others “met with and provided materials to Trump administration–linked US persons to advocate for formal investigations; hired a US firm to petition US officials; and attempted to make contact with several senior US officials.”
All of that helps explain why my second reaction was If I know this already, and none of it seems to matter, then something is seriously wrong with the American political system. If the link between Russian security services and the stories about the Biden family was bleedingly obvious at the time, why did anyone go along with it? Why were American journalists, American politicians, and the American president’s advisers messing around with Russian intelligence agents?
The problem is not only the outgrowth of the peculiar climate created by Donald Trump—however simple and satisfying such an explanation might be. Think, for a moment, about why the Russian state indulges in this kind of activity, year in and year out, despite the political costs and the risk of sanctions: Because it’s very cheap, it’s very easy, and a lot of evidence suggests that it works.
For decades now, Russian security services have studied a concept called “reflexive control”—the science of how to get your enemies to make mistakes. To be successful, practitioners must first analyze their opponents deeply, to understand where they get their information and why they trust it; then they need to find ways of playing with those trusted sources, in order to insert errors and mistakes. This way of thinking has huge implications for the military; consider how a pie
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Another Central Florida man arrested for role in Capitol riot
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/another-central-florida-man-arres
ted-for-role-in-capitol-riot/
Former AlexJones Infowars and Volusia Proud Boys member Joseph Biggs indicted in US Capitol riot
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/volusia-proud-boys-member-joseph-big
gs-indicted-in-us-capitol-riot/
Police shrugged off the Proud Boys, until they attacked the Capitol
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/police-shrug
ged-off-the-proud-boys-until-they-attacked-the-capitol/
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In the weeks before the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol, Biggs and other leading Proud Boys posted on Parler, calling on their followers to dress "incognito" on January 6, hoping to pass as antifa. "We are going to smell like you, move like you, and look like you. The only thing we’ll do that’s us is think like us!", he wrote, and "Jan 6th is gonna be epic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biggs
Joe Biggs was an Infowars reporter, who carried out several tours of duty in the military, he said he suffered PTSD.
He currently works for CRTV and Rogue Right.
https://culturalreconquista.com/wiki/joe-biggs/
In 2014, Joe Biggs said that a police officer threatened to kill him, The Huffington Post reported. He was covering the Ferguson protests in Missouri and said he was filming in the media area when a bottle was thrown in his direction. Then he said a police officer walked up, pointed a gun, and threatened to kill him. The officer was identified as Lt. Ray Albers, Huffington Post noted.
https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/joe-biggs/
Biggs has seen many of his social media accounts suspended recently, including his “Bo Jiggs” account that was on Facebook and his Joe Biggs’ “Rambobiggs” account on Twitter. His Twitter account had more than 240,000 followers at the time it was banned.
Joe Biggs’ Facebook account was banned while he was talking to one of Laura Loomer’s associates on Facebook about his Instagram ban
At least 24 Floridians arrested in U.S. Capitol riot: Here’s what we know about them
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/os-prem-ne-central-florida-
capitol-rioters-20210320-t25ecsgoyjddrmxxfgh7eocy2i-story.html
The 2021 U.S. Capitol riot, also known as the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol, the 2021 attempted coup in the United States and the 2021 insurrection at the United States Capitol, was a coup attempt that took place at Capitol Hill on January 6, 2021. As the US Congress was about to certify former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.'s defeat of President and sore loser Donald J. Trump in the 2020 presidential election, a group of a few thousand far-right pro-Trump terrorists, paramilitaries, rioters, and "patriots" stormed the fucking Capitol building, demanding that Congress subvert the will of voters they didn't like and declare Trump the winner. The building was trashed and vandalized by the insurrectionists, resulting in dozens of injuries and the deaths of four rioters and one police officer.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/2021_U.S._Capitol_riot
During a largely peaceful protest at the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021 organized by Trump supporters in opposition to certifying the "official results" of the 2020 U.S. presidential election, a small mob broke into the Capitol Building violently, forcing the people inside to evacuate. Despite the MSM blaming the breaking and entering on President Trump, falsely accusing him of "inciting" the situation, evidence has suggested the militant storming to have been the result of infiltration by Antifa and paid protesters.
https://conservapedia.com/2021_Capitol_riot
CNN and NBC paid BLM/Antifa terrorist John Sullivan $70,000 for his services inside the U.S. Capitol on Januuary 6, 2021
Proud Boys organizer Joe Biggs charged in Capitol riot
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142676575
Proud Boys organizer Joe Biggs arrested as FBI alleges more possibl
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Three Wars, No Victory – Why?
America is the most powerful country in the history of the world, yet it has not won any of the three major wars it has fought over the past half century. This has not been due to a lack of effort and persistence. Our troops fought in Vietnam for nine years and in Iraq for a dozen. We’re still fighting after 20 years in Afghanistan, where our generals are asking the Taliban to stop attacking. That’s not a sign of success; the victor does not make such requests. The fact is that in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, America has failed in its mission to develop and sustain democracies.
What accounts for this trifecta of failure?
More at https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2021/03/08/three-wars-no-victo
ry-why/
The Real Reasons the U.S. Can’t Win Wars Anymore
. . . Another reason we failed in Vietnam is that the war was never winnable in the first place. Bing argues that our poor military strategy from 1965 to 1968, bad policy decisions, and the popular mood doomed the Vietnam War. These factors played a role, but in truth only heightened an already existing reality — a reality made clear to me in 1966, when my colleagues and I got lost coming back from a meeting with SWIFT-boat officers in the northern part of Cameron Bay, South Vietnam. As we rode around aimlessly trying to find our way back to our base, we came upon a Catholic monastery. A priest there gave us directions and fed us. But as we were leaving, one of the monks asked me in French (which I had studied in school) why we thought we were going to make out any better in Vietnam than the French. President Eisenhower was conscious of this when he refused to bail out the French at Dien Bien Phu in 1954, even though most of his national-security advisers, including then–Vice President Nixon and the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Radford, recommended it. But Army chief of staff General Matthew Ridgway, who prevented us from losing in Korea, helped convince Eisenhower not to intervene, because he, like the monks I met, believed Vietnam was unwinnable.
Similarly, the majority of the American people turned against the war in Vietnam not just because there was a draft, as Bing correctly points out, but because of how the privileged were able to avoid the draft, thus leaving it to the lower class to bear most of the burden. For example, the four most recent presidents who could have served in Vietnam avoided that war and the draft by dubious means. Bill Clinton pretended to join the Army ROTC; George W. Bush used political connections to get into the Air National Guard, when President Johnson made it clear that the reserve component would not be activated to fight the war; Donald Trump, of course, had his family physician claim he had bone spurs, (Trump himself cannot remember which foot); and Joe Biden claimed that the asthma he had in high school prevented him from serving even though he brags about his athletic exploits while in high school.
More at https://news.yahoo.com/real-reasons-u-t-win-103057654.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The only Trumptards are the people still mentioning his name every day 2 months after their guy was inaugurated.
That's you, Trumptard.
Not so, SIX! These guys mention Trump MULTIPLE times a day? So, what does that make them?
Trumptards+ ?
Trumpaholics... No Longer Anonymous.

That's cute. Did you see that Second says you're still a Russian affiliate?
That's the Post-Trump Democrat playbook in perpetuity. Work in tandem with the Liberal controlled Media to put the narrative they want out there, then defame anybody who doesn't gargle their shit and ask for more by calling them Russia or Q.
Doesn't make any goddamned sense, but 90% of the morons are on the Left so it never had to.
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Quote:"Russian Troll" is shorthand for Trumptard Dishonesty about their true goals. Here is a law that would prevent Trump's tax cheating, but it has a larger purpose of making the major donors to the GOP (and Democratic Party) pay all their taxes, rather than not report half their income:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That's the Post-Trump Democrat playbook in perpetuity.
Khanna Introduces The Stop Cheaters Act, Making Ultra-Rich Pay Their Fair Share
https://khanna.house.gov/media/press-releases/release-khanna-introduce
s-stop-cheaters-act-making-ultra-rich-pay-their-fair
How to Collect $1.4 Trillion in Unpaid Taxes
Wealthy Americans are concealing large amounts of income from the I.R.S. There is a straightforward corrective.
When the federal government started withholding income taxes from workers’ paychecks during World War II, the innovation was presented as a matter of fairness, a way to ensure that everyone paid. Irving Berlin wrote a song for the Treasury Department: “You see those bombers in the sky? Rockefeller helped to build them. So did I.”
The withholding system remains the cornerstone of income taxation, effectively preventing Americans from lying about wage income. Employers submit an annual W-2 report on the wages paid to each worker, making it hard to fudge the numbers.
But the burden of taxation is increasingly warped because the government has no comparable system for verifying income from businesses. The result is that most wage earners pay their fair share while many business owners engage in blatant fraud at public expense.
In a remarkable 2019 analysis, the Internal Revenue Service estimated that Americans report on their taxes less than half of all income that is not subject to some form of third-party verification like a W-2. Billions of dollars in business profits, rent and royalties are hidden from the government each year. By contrast, more than 95 percent of wage income is reported.
Unreported income is the single largest reason that unpaid federal income taxes may amount to more than $600 billion this year, and more than $7.5 trillion over the next decade. It is a truly staggering sum — more than half of the projected federal deficit over the same period.
The government has a basic obligation to enforce the law and to crack down on this epidemic of tax fraud. The failure to do so means that the burden of paying for public services falls more heavily on wage earners than on business owners, exacerbating economic inequality. The reality of widespread cheating also undermines the legitimacy of a tax system that still relies to a considerable extent on Americans’ good-faith participation.
Proposals to close this “tax gap” often focus on reversing the long-term decline in funding for the I.R.S., allowing the agency to hire more workers and to audit more wealthy taxpayers. But Charles Rossotti, who led the I.R.S. from 1997 to 2002, makes a compelling argument that such an approach is inadequate. Mr. Rossotti says that Congress needs to change the rules, by creating a third-party verification system for business income, too.
The core of Mr. Rossotti’s clever proposal is to obtain that information from banks. Under his plan, the government would require banks to produce an annual account statement totaling inflows and outflows, like the 1099 tax forms that investment firms must provide to their clients.
Individuals would then have the opportunity to reconcile what Mr. Rossotti dubs their “1099New” forms with their reported income on their individual tax returns. One might, for example, assert that a particular deposit was a tax-exempt gift.
Mr. Rossotti has proposed that the I.R.S. require the new forms only for people with taxable income above a generous threshold. A bill including Mr. Rossotti’s plan, introduced by Representative Ro Khanna of California, sets that threshold at $400,000, to minimize the burden on small business. The money is undoubtedly in chasing wealthy tax cheats, but equity argues that bu
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Originally posted by second:Quote:"Russian Troll" is shorthand for Trumptard Dishonesty about their true goals.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That's the Post-Trump Democrat playbook in perpetuity.
Nope. "Russian Troll" is "I don't have a valid argument, so I'm going to just be a dick."
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Quote:I was thinking about writing a Firefly story about a spaceship full of Trumptards. Because of a lack of maintenance, that ship has a low probability of killing its crew, about 1% per year, on takeoff. Kaylee tries and fails to persuade the crew from this other ship to fix the problems. The other crew has various reasons not to do the work, reasons that boil down to the ship didn't explode yesterday so it certainly won't explode today. Not one of the crew is convinced by Kaylee's reason, logic or experience to fix their ship.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:"Russian Troll" is shorthand for Trumptard Dishonesty about their true goals.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That's the Post-Trump Democrat playbook in perpetuity.
Nope. "Russian Troll" is "I don't have a valid argument, so I'm going to just be a dick."
River's method is different from Kaylee's. River forces all of the Trumptard crew off the ship. Then River sorts them into two groups, allowing one group to go back on the ship. The ship takes off and explodes, killing everyone River allowed to do what pleased them. All the foolish Trumptards could have died in the explosion, but River saved the ones worth saving.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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We Could Solve Homelessness if We Wanted
https://web.archive.org/web/20210323214817/https://slate.com/business/
2021/03/homelessness-lets-solve-it.html
The American Rescue Plan Act that President Joe Biden signed this month contains a big investment in fighting homelessness. In addition to $21.6 billion for low-income renters, it contains $5 billion for housing vouchers specifically targeted at at-risk renters and $5 billion in HOME grants, which cities and counties can use to invest in permanent supportive housing to prevent homelessness. It’s a lot. (The entire annual outlay for federal Section 8 housing vouchers, for comparison’s sake, is $22 billion.)
To diagnose the homelessness in their own towns, people have tried to convince themselves of many things: It’s the weather. Drugs. Social estrangement. Low wages. State disinvestment in psychiatric care, in caring for people with disabilities, in services for veterans. Ronald Reagan, infamously, said homelessness is a choice. There are at least half a million homeless people in the United States, so there is room for all those things to be a little bit true. But most of all, homelessness is about a shortage of low-income housing.
As Conor Dougherty writes in his book Golden Gates, urban redevelopment programs in the 1960s and ’70s “destroyed thousands of rooming houses and ‘cage hotels’ with single-occupant dwellings and shared bathrooms, removing a crucial support of last-resort shelter.” New York lost 109,000 single room occupancy units between 1971 and 1987. Roughly half the SRO stocks of Los Angeles and Seattle vanished in the same time frame. Chicago lost 80 percent of its SROs between 1960 and 1980, a decline of about 70,000 units. Prior to that, a man could work a little, drink a lot, and still afford a room to lay his head. Afterward, not so much.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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