Angel in love with Cordy or with buffy?

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HAWAIIANSGIRL

Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:31 PM

Think angel still loves buffy?
I think not.
I think he in love with cordy?

EMBERS

Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:39 PM

you don't think he is mourning Darla?
Or wrapped up in Nina?
Just asking....

STARPILOTGRAINGER

Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:47 PM

Y'know, I never for one moment bought the whole 'Angel and Cordy in love' plotline. Best friends, sure... but love? No. It's one of the few things I really disliked about seasons 3 and 4.

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GROUNDED

Tuesday, January 11, 2005 5:24 PM

Yeah, A/C was a crime - put the nails in the coffin of the Cordelia character. Angel/Buffy was more believable, but once they'd put an end to it they really should have made it final. Angel's appearance at the end of Buffy was so wrong it hurt.

ZEEK

Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:53 PM

Angel's love life was very confusing. He was all on again off again with Buffy from the start. Then there was sort of a thing between revived, human Darla. Then the unbelievable Cordy thing. Then the also unbelievable Nina thing.

It's just a mess. I don't think the writers could ever think of a good relationship for him. That or they wanted to make it a point that Angel wasn't meant to have a good relationship.

SHADESIREN

Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:48 PM

The whole Angel/Cordy thing drove me NUTS - I HATED it. It always seemed SO wrong.

Cordy's character really changed - right about the time she cut her hair, she became such a different person, and really lost her whole "Cordy" charm. I LOVED Cordy before.. then she just... wasn't Cordy anymore.

The new Cordy was ok, but I never liked her as much as the old Cordy. Add the Angel love thing, and it was just silly.

The Angel/Nina thing was so non-existent, I kept forgetting it was supposed to be there. It was like this silly last-ditch attempt to give poor Angel some kind of romance, but it just fell so flat.

And on top of all of it, it SO ruined the whole Buffy/Angel thing by making it seem kinda trivial - it wasn't a big True Love thing, it became just "we used to go out". That almost broke my heart.

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GROUNDED

Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:40 PM

The retconning of the curse so he could have sex with anyone but Buffy irritated me too.

STARPILOTGRAINGER

Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:44 PM

I don't think it was a retcon. I think it was a fair point that somebody finally realized a 'moment of perfect happiness' != sex... however, that being said, it was stupidly irresponsible to go from there to 'so, go have some sex!' I mean, yeah, it _probably_ won't lead to him losing his soul, but do you really want to take that chance?

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DIRTYBROWNCOAT

Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:05 PM

Even though they've always displayed Angel's moment of happiness as sex, I really don't believe that sex is the only way he can lose his soul, or that having sex automatically means he loses his soul.

Because otherwise, that tells me that they think the only moment of *true* happiness is an orgasm, and I just don't think that's the case.

I think that if Angel were ever to become completely guilt-free about his past, and things were going so great as to everything in his life was as perfect as can be (kind of what happened in Awakening, he could lose his soul without having sex. Like they said in later seasons, just because you have sex does NOT mean you are perfectly happy.

Anyway, as for Angel/Cordelia, I was never a fan. It just seemed to come out of nowhere - well, not NOWHERE. The two had chemistry together, but throughout the first two seasons there was a big emphasis on them as a family - family this, family that, blah blah. Then all of a sudden he falls in love with her? Blah. No thanks.

I really never saw Angel and Darla having anything going on after he got his soul back (I assume you're referring to season 2 of Angel where she comes back as a human). I always thought that, if anything, Angel felt a responsibility towards her because a.) she sired him and he felt some kind of connection, and b.) she was going through what he went through and he didn't want her to face it alone.

I don't think that, by the end of BtVS that Buffy/Angel would have worked anymore either. They had grown apart over the course of four seasons, and they just didn't fit anymore...

...and yeah, Angel's appearance in Chosen was pretty bashing of continuity...Angel all of a sudden wanting to get back with Buffy, despite the whole "Cordelia" thing, despite the fact that the whole reason he left was so that they WOULDN'T be tempted to be together? Not to mention the fact that, just a little while earlier on his OWN show, he had killed his only son, and then he was all happy-go-lucky, hearts and puppies.

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Mal: You're on my crew.
Simon: Right. I guess I just didn't...you don't even like me.
Mal: You're on my crew. Why we still talking about this?
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ZEEK

Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:31 PM

I guess the sex != true happiness thing is fairly believable, but I was so ready in season 2 for Angel to lose his soul after the Darla thing. I expected Faith to be brought back then to stop him. I was so pumped. Then the big let down of not only is he not evil but that somehow made him all good again. Standard Joss making you think you're going one way only to be hit by a 180.

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