new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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mRNA technology was used to produce the first 2 vaccines and it's a novel technology. That's one of the things I have against the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. That may be the objection your brother's friend had to them. The J&J vaccine uses the adenovirus as a vector, and that technology has been around and been studied since the 70's, so it's a far better known quantity, and had a history of being really well tolerated.
Many vaccines linger in development simply because no one wants to put the money into them to study them.
The Ebola vaccine was at that point for decades until the last big outbreak in Africa in 2014. Then by a fluke of luck a man was discovered who had had Ebola who had neutralizing antibodies. They used his blood to 'probe' which parts of the Ebola virus were targeted by the antibodies, then reverse-engineered the genetic code to those parts of the virus ... and from there, the rest as they say, is history. There are now many many vaccine candidates waiting on large-scale trials.
One of the things that really jump-started the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine development, like the man with Ebola-neutralizing antibodies, was that the Chinese published the genetic code on the internet within weeks of the recognized outbreak, and vaccine development started from there.
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That may be the objection your brother's friend had to them.
No. He clearly stated that his objection to them was that it typically takes 6 to 8 years before a vaccine is approved.
There is no legitimate reason you can come up with that it is OK that we are not only approving vaccines in 8 to 11 months now, but we've already vaccinated 10's of Millions of people with them and after enough people have gotten it they will start enforcing penalties against people who choose not to get it.
My guess is that they'll withhold your license to work if you refuse to get it.
People keep telling me that's not going to happen in America, but we're not close to the level of people who willingly have to get it because they're terrified or just tired of this horrible new normal the Government has imposed upon the weak willed people of America.
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Did you watch Utopia on Amazon Prime yet?
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"No. He clearly stated that his objection to them was that it typically takes 6 to 8 years before a vaccine is approved."
Then he's wrong. Flu vaccines are approved in less than a year.
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The predictions thread
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=51008&p=19
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... after enough people have gotten it (a COVID-19 vaccine) they will start enforcing penalties against people who choose not to get it.
My guess is that they'll withhold your license to work if you refuse to get it.
People keep telling me that's not going to happen in America, but we're not close to the level of people who willingly have to get it because they're terrified or just tired of this horrible new normal the Government has imposed upon the weak willed people of America.
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"No. He clearly stated that his objection to them was that it typically takes 6 to 8 years before a vaccine is approved."
Then he's wrong. Flu vaccines are approved in less than a year.
You're wrong. As you've pointed out a billion times, this is not the flu.
This is a NOVEL virus. Entirely different.
It took 23 years to engineer and approve a Polio vaccine. Over 170 years for Smallpox. 13 years for Tuberculosis, and 100 years later its still only given to infants at high risk of contracting it.
You're supposed to be following the Science. Don't pretend that this circumstance is magic.
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The predictions thread
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=51008&p=19Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
... after enough people have gotten it (a COVID-19 vaccine) they will start enforcing penalties against people who choose not to get it.
My guess is that they'll withhold your license to work if you refuse to get it.
People keep telling me that's not going to happen in America, but we're not close to the level of people who willingly have to get it because they're terrified or just tired of this horrible new normal the Government has imposed upon the weak willed people of America.
Why don't you think this will happen?
You should put my full prediction in there that I made a long time ago. The scared little cattle that willingly run with their arms out for it get it first, along with weak willed people who would literally do anything to go back to life before lockdowns. That right there will be around 60%.
After that, comes the guilt. You already see that in the media, as well as the media advocating that you yourself partake in trying to shame other people. You'll get another 10 to 15% there.
Second just posted this article in the other thread this morning:
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/life/article/Peter-Hotez-fight-for-sc
ience-COVID-houston-texas-15982489.php
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He asked his wife, Ann, what he should do. Speak out, she said. “You don’t want to wake up in a year and see the body count and know that you didn’t do all you could to prevent it.”
You could stumble around with a blindfold on and find a dozen articles per day sharing that sentiment.
As for requiring people to get vaccinated before going back to work?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/18/require-covid-19-vaccine-for-work-retu
rn-heres-what-americans-say.html
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57% of workers support a mandatory Covid-19 vaccine for return to office: CNBC Survey
https://www.benefitnews.com/list/can-employers-mandate-workers-be-vacc
inated-before-returning-to-work
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Can employers mandate workers be vaccinated before returning to work?
It's pretty clearly established that yes, [individual] employers can require mandatory vaccinations, as a matter of prior health crises and common law.
https://www.aarp.org/work/working-at-50-plus/info-2020/employer-requir
e-covid-vaccine.html
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Can Your Employer Require You to Get a COVID-19 Vaccine?
The short answer: Yes. An employer can make a vaccination a requirement if you want to continue working there.
And please... Don't you DARE say some bullshit like "it's not being mandated by the government so it's okay".
I already know your stance on freedom of speech when it comes to that bullshit argument, and if you try to justify away that this would in any way be different from that, you are as big a hypocrite as the Nilbot is.
I've already seen this exact playbook used against smokers. Once there are enough people who got the vaccine of their own free will... even those who did so under duress, it will not be hard at all to pass laws that keep non-vaccinated citizens from engaging in any activities they'd need to perform to survive.
And there will be no voices out there supporting their choice. Quite the opposite. They will have no pity from the mob, and will be blamed by the mob for doing this to themselves. And they will be hated by the mob because the mob will believe that they are the reason that this non-deadly sham of an overblown cold is still in the news headlines.
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Oh... Here's another one. It's almost as if I'm not the only one thinking about this.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/12/15/vaccine-cards-discri
mination-immunity-passports/
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Proof of vaccination will be very valuable — and easy to abuse
Imagine a two-tiered society: One group has access to jobs and public places, one doesn’t
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Until a vaccine is fully approved and widely available, we should not — except in the rarest of cases — make participation in society depend on immunity status. And yet the vaccination cards that will be issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other public health agencies worldwide will make enforcing that norm a challenge.
We shouldn't do it just yet. But when enough vaccines are out, then definitely do it.
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These are laudable goals, but the cards could easily become de facto entry documents required for people to attend school, get a job, dine at a restaurant or patronize businesses. Employers might mandate that workers show coronavirus vaccine cards before they return to the office, and once vaccines are available for children, schools might require students to show these cards to attend. Tech companies are already scrambling to create apps that would include vaccine and coronavirus testing information, and a digital vaccine passport for travelers will soon be introduced by the International Air Transport Association, a major airline trade group.
Watch Gattica if you haven't already. If you have, watch it again.
But here's the bright light at the end of the tunnel in the 2nd to last paragraph...
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Letting people make high-stakes decisions based on vaccination status would create other risks, too: A black market in forged cards could emerge. And there would be powerful incentives for people to find ways to cheat the system to get the shot sooner. Such scenarios underscore why, for now, the health secretary ought to limit the use of vaccine cards to their intended purpose: to help remind people when their second shot is due.
I just did a google image search. I could Photoshop my own card in 5 minutes. Even easier than forging an ex-president's birth certificate from the early 60's.
They want to abuse the cards to mandate behavior, I'll just make my own, fuck you very much.
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Your brother's friend was talking about VACCINES, if you remember! If you didn't want to talk about VACCINES you shouldn't have brought up the general topic of VACCINES.
I'm still right. There are VACCINES that are developed, approved, produced, and deployed, in less than a year.
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And now for some important news:
The Latest: US panel endorses 3rd vaccine option from J&J
https://apnews.com/article/public-health-coronavirus-pandemic-prayuth-
chan-ocha-bangkok-china-95b1993785c4daf1349665a231077580
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