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Friday, February 12, 2021 2:55 AM

Nah. Everybody is going to get it.


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Friday, February 12, 2021 9:40 AM

This Atlantic article explainz wy herd imunity iz likley never going to be reached.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/02/herd-immunity-might
-be-impossible-even-vaccines/617973
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Friday, February 12, 2021 1:41 PM


Quote:

This Atlantic article explainz wy herd imunity iz likley never going to be reached.

Well, never is a long time to foretell.

Anyway, given what we're doing now, I agree that no, it's not going to go away globally. And even if we got rid of it here, as long as it exists elsewhere on the planet, new variants will evolve, and those new variants may be - or may not be - susceptible to antibodies developed from previous infections or vaccinations. So until the planet as a whole gets its act together and makes vaccination a major shared project, we all will be in the spin-the-wheel SARS-CoV-2 game.

That said, eradication in humans isn't impossible. But it'll take focus, coordination, and money. So IMO the question is do we want to reach that goal enough to get it done.

And the potential animal reservoirs - cats, wild cats, and mink, just don't have sufficient exposure to humans to be more than a rare outbreak, if that.

Also, fwiw, I take endemic rabies as a good indicator of what's possible in wild animal vaccination if even just a small amount of money is spent. Any of us who's had a dog or cat is familiar with the rabies injection vaccination. But scientists have actually developed an ORAL rabies vaccine against different rabies strains. (Rabies strains evolve within species, because generally, a smaller rabid animal that bites a larger animal will be killed, while a larger rabid animal that bites a smaller animal will kill it. Either way, transmission is severely limited between different-sized animals. So 'bat' rabies, and 'skunk' rabies, and 'raccoon' rabies etc develop.) More than that, scientists have figured out how to stabilize the oral rabies vaccine, and how to select the proper bait that will attract the species to be vaccinated. For raccoons, for example, anything that smells like the worst rotten fish ever is very tempting. They then broadcast that vaccine-containing bait by airplane over the area of concern. That's how raccoon rabies originating in Florida and transported to Georgia (a hunter wanted to improve the local 'coon hunting) was stopped at Ohio where it had spread in less than 2 years. And that's how Mexican coyote rabies was stopped in its northward spread through Texas.


To me, the question isn't 'can we do it' - can we really eradicate SARS-CoV-2 from the planet, the question is 'how much do we want it'.


PS - a stable nasal spray/ eye drop/ oral rinse-and-swallow vaccine with a wide variety of proteins - not just spike proteins - all in different configurations would be highly preferential. The reason why current vaccines only target serious disease, and deaths, is because injections stimulate deep-body immune responses. They don't target infection and transmission, which happen in the mucous membranes. If you create a vaccine that stimulates the mucous membrane immune system, you stop the initial infection and the subsequent transmission.

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THG
Monday, February 15, 2021 6:40 PM

Deaths

488,364

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THG
Monday, February 15, 2021 6:42 PM

I got my first shot three days ago.

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Monday, February 15, 2021 8:03 PM

Good luck.


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Tuesday, February 16, 2021 8:05 PM

Fourth Wave? When the Feck was the Third Wave?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/02/16/covid-19-us-four
th-wave-variants-coronavirus/4460958001
/

FEAR! FEAR FOREVER!!!!!!




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THG
Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:13 PM

Deaths

491,096

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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 1:58 AM

^ LIE.


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Thursday, February 18, 2021 6:36 AM


As I've mentioned before, COVID-19 is going to be a global problem - with new variants developing and circulating globally in a very un-fun game of whack-a-mole - until the countries around the world get their act together and decide to eradicate it globally in a coordinated way.

Anyway, while the western world has held itself hostage to corporations and their vaccine prices and lack of manufacturing capacity, and in competition with each other for a supply; Russia took an entirely different path. Very early on, Russia announced its intent to develop a vaccine and sell it cheaply around the world. To that end, it developed Sputnik V with the "government-backed Gamaleya Research Institute of Epidemiology and Microbiology". (wiki) And it's now selling its low cost vaccine around the globe including to many countries in the western hemisphere.

Quote:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/17/americas/russia-putin-sputnik-vacci
ne-latin-america-intl/index.html

Eduardo Valdes, a former diplomat and member of government coalition Frente de Todos, who now serves as chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee in Argentina's Chamber of Deputies, says there's a clear line between vaccine negotiations and external factors (in obtaining Sputnik V for Argentina). "Now is not the time to do ideology. Our goal is for the Western Hemisphere to get its vaccines and not to poke into someone else's (Russia's) internal affairs," he told CNN.

It sounds like Argentina has decided to focus on "What is in Argentina's interests? What is in Argentinians' interests?"
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Six countries across the region -- Argentina, Bolivia, Mexico, Nicaragua, Paraguay, and Venezuela -- have now authorized use of the Sputnik V vaccine. Others are considering authorization requests, ever more urgent given the global shortage of available vaccines.
In addition, Brazil and Cuba have obtained licenses to manufacture Sputnik V.
Quote:

https://cubasi.cu/en/news/venezuela-signs-deal-russia-purchase-10-mill
ion-sputnik-v-vaccines-free-distribution


https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/colombia-en-conversaciones-para-
adquirir-vacuna-sputnik-v-EG14561612


https://cubasi.cu/en/news/belarus-and-argentina-begin-covid-19-vaccina
tions-russian-developed-sputnik-v-shot


https://news.yahoo.com/brazil-company-sees-approval-sputnik-200109573.
html

Russia did well. It did well by the global epidemiology and helping to stamp out COVID-19 globally, it did well by its people by vaccinating them in mass vaccination campaigns before it made them available globally, and it did well politically around the world by creating a legitimate global vaccine supply, especially for poorer countries.

If only American politicians were as adroit in looking after America's and Americans' interests, and not so religious in their slavery to corporations.

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