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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 5:47 AM


Can a president be impeached without evidence? Or worse, in the presence of exculpatory evidence?

Can a person be convicted by a jury without evidence, in the presence of exculpatory evidence, and without the presumption of innocence?

I guess we'll see these Constitutional mysteries revealed.

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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 6:17 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Can a president be impeached without evidence? Or worse, in the presence of exculpatory evidence?

Can a person be convicted by a jury without evidence, in the presence of exculpatory evidence, and without the presumption of innocence?

I guess we'll see these Constitutional mysteries revealed.

Can a bank robber be convicted if he drops the bag of loot as he runs from the bank? How is it Constitutional to punish someone when he did not gain what he sought? I think the jury of 100 senators won't convict the attempted robber because 50 of the jurors are related to the defendant.

The Senate ultimately voted 56-44 that the impeachment trial is constitutional.

An adviser to Trump's team offered a candid assessment of the messy opening day, asking pointedly, "What the hell is going on?"

The adviser said the former President could be in serious jeopardy if he finds himself charged in criminal court, given his inability to attract a high-powered legal team for the impeachment trial.

"Trump is f--ked if anyone ever charges him. No one wants to work with him," the adviser said.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/09/politics/trump-impeachment-bruce-castor
/index.html


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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 7:37 AM


What EVIDENCE of loot is there? When Trump called on people to "PEACEFULLY and PATRIOTICALLY Make Your Voices Heard"?

You mean THAT incitement to a coup ... insurrection ... riot ... violence by a few individuals ... ?

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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 8:24 AM

There's no evidence of anything. Just more of the same bullshit the Legacy Media did the last four years... riling up people like the idiots on this board to have so much hate in their hearts that they wish death on others, derive great pleasure when somebody they disagree with dies and even try to coerce people into offing themselves, all while somehow still believing that they're the "good guys".

They're all meat puppet cultist zombies. The entire lot of 'em.

It's fucking gross what the Legacy Media has done to this country to sell boner pills and car insurance.


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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 8:25 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

What EVIDENCE of loot is there? When Trump called on people to "PEACEFULLY and PATRIOTICALLY Make Your Voices Heard"?

You mean THAT incitement to a coup ... insurrection ... riot ... violence by a few individuals ... ?

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted in the aftermath of a riot:
These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!
6:01 PM • Jan 6, 2021

Did you understand, 1kiki, that Trump is claiming to be a great patriot whose landslide victory was unceremoniously & viciously stripped away? He was fired from his job and he started a riot about the firing. If the rioters had killed Mike Pence, Trump's firing would not been certified on Jan 6th. But Pence lived and the certification was delayed until Jan 7th. Pence is still hiding from the people who want to kill him.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pence+is+still+hiding+from+the+people+
who+want+to+kill+him


Mike Pence delivers statement formally certifying Biden as winner of presidential election



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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 8:27 AM

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Did you understand, 1kiki, that Trump is claiming to be a great patriot whose landslide victory was unceremoniously & viciously stripped away?



That's exactly what he is and that's exactly what happened.

Life goes on though.

Karma's a bitch.


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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 8:51 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Did you understand, 1kiki, that Trump is claiming to be a great patriot whose landslide victory was unceremoniously & viciously stripped away?



That's exactly what he is and that's exactly what happened.

Life goes on though.

Karma's a bitch.

Funny thing but great patriot Trump did NOT have a landslide victory. And life does not go on for Pence. He is hiding from the people who want to kill him.

The martyrdom of Mike Pence
As vice-president, he abased himself and his office. In reward, Donald Trump sent a mob to kill him. Now, as another impeachment trial looms, he is cast out from Republican ranks.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/07/mike-pence-donal
d-trump-republicans-religion-evangelical


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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 9:06 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Did you understand, 1kiki, that Trump is claiming to be a great patriot whose landslide victory was unceremoniously & viciously stripped away?



That's exactly what he is and that's exactly what happened.

Life goes on though.

Karma's a bitch.

Funny thing but great patriot Trump did NOT have a landslide victory. And life does not go on for Pence. He is hiding from the people who want to kill him.

The martyrdom of Mike Pence
As vice-president, he abased himself and his office. In reward, Donald Trump sent a mob to kill him. Now, as another impeachment trial looms, he is cast out from Republican ranks.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/07/mike-pence-donal
d-trump-republicans-religion-evangelical


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



That's some awesome fan fiction there.


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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 9:27 AM


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Did you understand, 1kiki, that Trump is claiming to be a great patriot whose landslide victory was unceremoniously & viciously stripped away?
What does that have to do with Trump 'inciting' ... something or other bad ... by calling on people to be PEACEFUL and PATRIOTIC?

And, btw - I wouldn't call it a VALIDATED election. And neither would those demented rabid Trump supporters at CalTech/ MIT's Vote Project, since they call for, among other things, statistical analysis of the votes to validate elections.

And since there is zero space between blind acceptance and calling it fraud, that's why I bet they were even storming the barricades!

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Wednesday, February 10, 2021 9:35 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:

Did you understand, 1kiki, that Trump is claiming to be a great patriot whose landslide victory was unceremoniously & viciously stripped away?
What does that have to do with Trump 'inciting' ... something or other bad ... by calling on people to be PEACEFUL and PATRIOTIC?

And, btw - I wouldn't call it a VALIDATED election. And neither would those demented rabid Trump supporters at CalTech/ MIT's Vote Project, since they call for, among other things, statistical analysis of the votes to validate elections.

And since there is zero space between blind acceptance and calling it fraud, hat's why I bet they were even storming the barricades!

Trump referred to Pence 13 times in his Riot Day speech on Jan 6th:

I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so. Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election … All Vice-President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to re-certify and we become president and you are the happiest people. And I actually, I just spoke to Mike. I said: ‘Mike, that doesn’t take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage’ … And Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us, and if he doesn’t, that will be a sad day for our country because you’re sworn to uphold our constitution … And Mike Pence, I hope you’re going to stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country. And if you’re not, I’m going to be very disappointed in you. I will tell you right now. I’m not hearing good stories … They want to re-certify. But the only way that can happen is if Mike Pence agrees to send it back. Mike Pence has to agree to send it back. So I hope Mike has the courage to do what he has to do. And I hope he doesn’t listen to the Rinos [Republicans In Name Only] and the stupid people that he’s listening to …

Arriving at the Capitol that day, taking his place in the Senate chamber at 1pm, Pence issued a statement: “It is my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not.”

Trump was just finishing speaking. The spearhead of the mob had already broken through the police perimeter on the west side of the Capitol. Just after 2pm, led by the Proud Boys and other paramilitary groups, the mob poured through smashed windows and doors and rushed into the corridors, chanting: “Hang Mike Pence!”

“Once we found out Pence turned on us and that they had stolen the election, like, officially, the crowd went crazy. I mean, it became a mob,” said one rioter, later arrested, in a video posted on YouTube. Another of those arrested texted: “When we found out Pence fucked us, we all stormed the Capitol building and everyone forced entry and started breaking shit. It was a like a scene out of a movie.”

But many of those assaulting the Capitol had already received Trump’s tinfoil cue to focus on Pence. The FBI charging paper for one arrested rioter, an alleged QAnon militant, quoted a text message two weeks before the attack: “I’m there for the greatest celebration of all time after Pence leads the Senate flip!! OR IM THERE IF TRUMP TELLS US TO STORM THE FUKIN CAPITAL IMA DO THAT THEN! We don’t want any trouble but they are not going to steal this election that I guarantee bro!!”

Secret service agents hustled Pence out of the chamber. “Where’s Mike Pence?” chanted the mob, racing to locate him. They carried a noose, marked with his name. Pence was in an office only about 100ft away. A quick-thinking Capitol police officer steered the rampaging throng to chase him in the opposite direction. At 2.24pm, amid the mayhem, Trump tweeted: “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our constitution, giving states a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA

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