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Monday, February 8, 2021 7:04 AM

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SECONDRATE Try googling Are there any theories about why societies fail? https://www.google.com/search?q=are+there+any+theories+about+why+socie
ties+fail


Starting about 500 years ago, from Mexico all the way to Argentina, European diseases killed off the Top 1% of society. With what was left of the Top 1% decapitated by Conquistadors, the next best people did NOT have the mental fortitude it takes to keep society running. Those civilizations left their ruins for tourists. The decedents of the Latin American 99% are living very poorly, making careers as tour guides, waiters, maids or picking bananas in the Banana Republics. Nobody from the lower levels of society stepped up to take the responsibilities that had been handled by the Top 1%.

Yanno, it's not often that SECONDRATE is a source of amusement, but I ...literally ... laughed out loud when I read that.

As head-bangingly stupid as it was, it was still funny!



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Monday, February 8, 2021 8:43 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The top 1% don't take "responsibility", they are parasites, leeches, on the economy.

Do I want the government to take over the role of being the big leech on the carotid of the economy?

OF COURSE NOT.

What I want the government to do is take a proactive role in limiting the powers of TPTB, leveling the playing field, and reducing the parasitism of the top 1%.



Utopia, or as close as we could ever get to it, would be a system of pure Capitalism via meritocracy where everyone starts with equal opportunity and usury is a crime on the level of murder.

But in a world run on credit that has devolved to the point that Legacy Media articles claim that meritocracy is racist, all we're left with is the Capitalist/Communist hybrid of our current system, which equates to nothing more than a rigged game called Predatory Capitalism.

The game ends when we're all slaves in every single aspect of our lives except the job title.


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Monday, February 8, 2021 1:09 PM

Rote a new How Stupid Are We? post.

https://howstupidarewe.blog/2021/02/08/the-republican-party-iz-on-the-
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Monday, February 8, 2021 2:18 PM

Since you posted it, I assume you put it up for discussion, so I'm cross-posting it here


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How Stupid Are We ?
General Idiocy – Individual Examples – Solutions
The Republican Party Iz On The Line

It’s Monday, February 8th 2021. Tomarow, Trump’s impeachment trial beginz in the Senate. Sins it takes a 2/3 majority to convict, it will take at least 17 Republicanz and all 50 Democrats.

It duznt seem likely at this point.

So far, so good. I don't count a 2/3 majority on this, either.

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The R congressmen and senatorz are still defending Trump after he attempted a self coup.


EVIDENCE? I don't think you have any, but if you do, please bring it forth.

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Sins then the party haz defended a newly seated freshman Congresswoman hoo haz supported the insurrectionists
EVIDNECE? I don't think you have any but, as before, if you do please bring it forth.

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(az well az espousing all sorts uv demented conspirasy theoryz)
It is every American's right to espouse demented conspiracy theories, including yours, JO. (More on that later.)

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wile taking an emerjensy vote to deside wether to sensure their own 3rd ranking senior member for the crime uv voting to impeach Trump.

Seriously.

Wut, you may want to ask them after this, coud Trump possibly do to dezerv impeachment?

Well, I would say it would take EVIDENCE of a serious crime which, so far, seems to be lacking.

Also, in order to be Constitutional it would probably help if he were actually IN OFFICE, because impeaching a private citizen? No bueno.

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Shoot sumwun on 5th Avenue*, like he boasted in 2016 and still get the R votes?

Well, 7 peepl are ded kuz uv the insurrection. A cop and 5 rioterz killed, then 2 cops later commited suiside. So, check the OK box for that.

Well, two people were killed and three died of heart attacks. How many people died because of, or during, the Antifa/BLM riots? A dozen? Two dozen?
More?
How much property damage was done during the Antifa/BLM riots? A million? A billion?
More?
What does it take to count as an insurrection? Or domestic terrorism?

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Commit acts that woud clearly fall outside uv the ‘Christian Values’ the party claimz az their own?

"Christian values" is NOT the standard for impeachable offense! I sggest that you re-read the Consitution and do some research on what the FF Fathers meant by what they wrote before you start waving some sort of nonsensical banner.

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That wun iz ded on arrival. Comicly ded! Repeatedly, serially ded and buried!
As it should be.

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If youv been living in a cave on Pluto, maybe you missed all uv the sex offensez that hav come to lite over the last 6 yirz, any wun uv wich, if commited by a Dem Prez, woud hav Republican larynxez landing on the House chamber carpet from them screaming for impeachment.

And Treazon haz alredy been approved by the party, the entire rite wing media and the voterz. They are all partisipating on sum level in hiz collusion with Putin.

AHEM!
You can't point to some people espousing demented conspiracy theories when you espouse a demented conspiracy theory of your own. EVEN MEULLER, with a significant ax to grind, three (or more) illegal FBI entrapment/surveillance operations backing him, a dozen lawyers, the cooperation of the CIA and MI6, three years, and quite a few million dollars couldn't find evidence for that one. Every time you bring up THIS dead and buried conspiracy theory, you demolish your credibility. I know it's what you truly believe, but have you ever considered the possibility that you might be well and truly wrong???

(Nah .... couldn't be ...)

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Therez nothing left.

(at least nothing reazonable. I can imajin all sorts uv sordid actionz and statements th

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Monday, February 8, 2021 7:16 PM

A memorable campaign ad urged voters to ask themselves which candidate would perform better in an unexpected emergency: “It’s 3 a.m. and your children are safe and asleep, but there’s a phone in the White House and it’s ringing ... Your vote will decide who answers that call.” Franklin D. Roosevelt answered Pearl Harbor. John F. Kennedy answered the deployment of Soviet missiles to Cuba.

Trump failed the 3 A.M. Test. A pandemic began on Donald Trump’s watch, so no speculation is needed. Trump showed us how he did perform in a crisis: He failed. Then he had a second crisis, when he lost the election but wouldn't concede defeat. He failed the test by starting a riot and claiming he won and suing everybody involved in the election but losing all legal cases. Tomorrow, his lawyers will argue that he should have another chance of being President in 2025, so that he can take the 3 A.M. test more times until he finally passes one.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/trump-failed-3-am-te
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, February 8, 2021 8:42 PM

Trump did win.

Fake election was fake.


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Monday, February 8, 2021 9:31 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump did win.

Fake election was fake.

That's what Trump said. He also said, “We’re very close to a vaccine,” on February 25, 2020. On February 28, just before an explosion in cases, he told Americans that the virus would soon disappear, “like a miracle.” In early March, long before the typical person could get tested for COVID-19, Trump told Americans that anyone who wanted a test for the disease could get one. On March 24, he asserted that a shutdown lasting months was untenable, in part because suicides “definitely would be in far greater numbers than the numbers that we’re talking about with regard to the virus.” On April 10, Trump said that the final number of U.S. deaths could be as few as 55,000, a mark the country surpassed before the end of that month. A week later, Trump said that the death toll would maybe reach 65,000. In May, he expressed the hope that the pandemic would end with fewer than 100,000 lives lost, though that death toll was quickly exceeded.

Voters need not speculate as to how Trump might perform in a high-stakes emergency, because he showed us how he did perform: He lied to the American public; he did not avert or quickly correct the federal bureaucracy’s most serious errors; he repeatedly gave false assurances that contributed to many Americans being less careful than they should have been; he responded to catastrophic levels of death by pretending that victory was right around the corner, rather than changing strategies; he presided over a country that was outperformed by much of the world; he failed at the simple task of protecting himself and his wife.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, February 8, 2021 9:39 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump did win.

Fake election was fake.

That's what Trump said.



I don't give a single shit what Trump said.

Mail in ballots are a fraud. Any vote without ID is a fraud.

Any election that allows mail in ballots and no picture ID required when voting is a fraud.



This entire Covid thing was the Democrats getting in bed with the Chinese and figuratively going nuclear to get Trump out of office because despite 4 years of media collusion it was very clear by early 2020 that Trump was going to destroy the Democratic nominee.

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Monday, February 8, 2021 11:45 PM

JO, this is for you: a REAl real-world discussion about Trump's "crimes", not a slew of DNC propaganda. BTW, some day, when I have a LOT more time than I have now, I'm going to go back and list every single "Russian collusion" claim that the media (including Rachel Madcow) was so breathless about ... like how a Siberian bank "communicated with" a server in Trump Tower ... which will remind you that each and every one of them evaporated like frost in the morning sun.

Because it seems that all it took to hoax you and a lot of others was broadcasting a nonstop blizzard of lies, which you collectively never took the time to examine. Maybe you should go back and examine them now and see how they stand up. Or not.

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Donald Trump may be the most convicted man never charged in America. According to media reports, the Justice Department has decided not to charge Trump with campaign finance violations related to hush money paid to former stripper Stormy Daniels. What was touted by many experts as a slam-dunk criminal charge has now joined a long list of alleged crimes that once were nightly cable-news sensations.

The disconnect between legal analysis and legal reality matters little in today’s media. Many of the same experts now trumpet the charge of criminal incitement in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. In their minds — unsurprisingly — it is another open-and-shut case. For four years, they have supplied a stream of allegations, all described as conclusive, to feed readers’ and viewers’ insatiable appetites. The campaign finance charge actually was one of the more credible claims, since former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to it. However, such crimes are notoriously difficult to litigate, as shown by the failed 2012 prosecution of former presidential candidate John Edwards.

Many of these alleged criminal acts were presented as reassuringly simple and straightforward. Former prosecutor and Washington Post columnist Randall D. Eliason insisted Trump committed bribery in the Ukraine scandal since “allegations of a wrongful quid pro quo are really just another way of saying that there was a bribe … it’s bribery if a quid pro quo is sought with corrupt intent, if the president is not pursuing legitimate U.S. policy but instead is wrongfully demanding actions by Ukraine that would benefit him personally.”

Also, IMHO, "quid pro quo was never demonstrated by the transcript. One would have to spin the conversation in a specific direction in order to reach that conclusion. UNLIKE JOE BIDEN OPENLY BRAGGING THAT HE SUCCESSFULLY WITHHELD MONEY FROM UKRAINE TO GET THEIR PROCURATOR GENERAL FIRED.
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It did not matter that the Supreme Court has roundly rejected such sweeping interpretations of bribery, extortion and related political corruption.
Others claimed Trump committed “felony bribery” by fundraising for Republican senators when he was about to be impeached.

"They" have also tried to indict Trump on bribey charges because some delegations stayed at Trump' hotel Seriously???

One has to assume intentions on both Trump's part and on the other party in order to make a case. But you can't convict based on ASSUMPTIONS, you need EVIDENCE. Something about "habeas corpus" and "innocent until proven guilty"... constitutional and legal standards which Dems are willing to trample in order to "get Trump". Do you really want to destroy the Constitution, JO?

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Former CNN legal analyst and former House impeachment counsel Norm Eisen claimed that, by not responding to Russian aggression,
When? where?
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Trump was “colluding in plain sight”
No idea what THAT was all about! Did Russia

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Tuesday, February 9, 2021 2:30 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I don't give a single shit what Trump said.

Mail in ballots are a fraud. Any vote without ID is a fraud.

Any election that allows mail in ballots and no picture ID required when voting is a fraud.

This entire Covid thing was the Democrats getting in bed with the Chinese and figuratively going nuclear to get Trump out of office because despite 4 years of media collusion it was very clear by early 2020 that Trump was going to destroy the Democratic nominee.

Two Trumptard Congressmen died from covid-19 -- Luke Letlow of Louisiana and Ron Wright of Texas. How many have to die before the other Trumptards stop thinking covid-19 is a Democratic/media/Chinese hoax? Is it only 50% or do all 210 of them have to die?

Trump’s Repeated False Attacks on Mail-In Ballots
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/trumps-repeated-false-attacks-on-mai
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